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No they haven't. I do wonder how certain people on this site function in the real world at times!!

I'm just expressing an opinion, that's all. There was no "tone" intended.

Hold back with the sarcasm. I think we're on different planets here, in the streaming age a track being pushed a single after album release means absolutely nothing - if it was going to do anything streaming wise it would have done it during album release. But as I said, do what you want as weird as it is.

In this day and age that approach seems completely outdated as their still album tracks even if they're being dressed up as singles for no good reason but you do you. It's bizarre to include months old songs in a list of New Releases just because the record label wants to usually unsuccessfully promote them as singles. To me a new release is a song released on that day and hasn't been available elsewhere but if your definition includes old tracks you do you - it's your thread.

Good to see Nothing But Thieves album in the Top 5.

Depends on your definition of "fair". The highest streamed songs getting the highest positions isn't necessarily fair for reasons me and Dan have outlined in this thread. The fair solution is to ban old music from the chart.

The current chart is the fake chart, it's too generous to old songs and it's killing new music.

Thank you. This is exactly the point I've been trying to make, the chart by design is flawed when old songs getting loads of streams are prioritised over new songs and prevents new songs from getting the exposure / recognition pop artists need to survive. A 3 year rule would end this madness overnight.

I just want to see recent pop music get it's flowers rather than a chart clogged up with old crap. It's not hard to see why the rules need changed.

Well, at least this isn't old. It's still crap.

No scrubs is sexist and offensive to all men and Robyn's version of Dancing On My Own is inferior to Calum Scott's version.

It's an unfair advantage due to broken chart rules that aren't fit for how people actually consume music. Unless you think The Beatles should have been charting every week in the 90s as well. A 3 year limit on the main chart and a separate classics chart is such an obvious fix. As I type this more old crap denying new songs their moment in the chart.

Release date.

Because these old songs benefitted from the different measurements first time round before streaming was include and when songs were shunted out quicker, they don't deserve a second. 60s music remained popular into the 90s but it didn't clog up the chart because more people bought new music. Streaming doesn't have that failsafe and unfairly advantages old songs. 3 year from release limit would fix the chart overnight.

That's only a recent thing though - for most of it's life the chart charted what people bought so you didn't get old stuff clogging up the chart. Restrictions to length of time in the chart would restore some balance - 3 years from release seems fair.

A 3 year limit for songs in the chart would be best policy. Anything older gets shunted to a separate "classics" charts.

So much old rubbish clogging up the chart, completely unfair on newer artists who rely on the chart for exposure. They need to change the rules again.

Did we really need this old song played over Free Your Mind?

Jason Derulo? What year is this?

Hopefully the new entries make this a better listen than last weeks chart. We can only hope. Here's some vintage charts: 1961 - Vintage Chart John Leyton - Johnny Remember Me Reach for the Stars / Climb Every Mountain - Shirley Bassey Helen Shapiro - You Don't Know The Shadows - Kon-Tiki Elvis Presley - Wild in the Country / I Feel So Bad Billy Fury - Jealousy The Highwaymen - Michael Cleo Laine - You'll Answer to Me Sam Cooke - Cupid Connie Francis - Together 1956 - Vintage Chart Anne Shelton - Lay Down Your Arms Doris Day - Whatever Will Be Will Be (Que Sera Sera) The Goons - The Ying Tong Song / Bloodnok's Rock N Roll Call Bill Haley and his Comets - Rocking Through the Rye Elvis Presley - Hound Dog The Platters - The Great Pretender / Only You Lonnie Donegan - Bring A Little Water Susie / Dead or Alive Frankie Laine - A Woman in Love Tony Martin - Walk Hand in Hand Teresa Brewer - Sweet Old Fashioned Girl

I'd expect him to at least turn up in the Top 200 but maybe I'm overestimating him.

Glad I'm not the only one who was confused by that. Same applies to The Rolling Stones - Mr Charm, yes there's a new video out for it but the song was on the album released a while back. Feel like a new release thread should only include new releases not album tracks being pushed as singles.

Could do without the awful Tongues taking off. Any sign of Lil Nas X yet?

So it's out - what do we think? I really like it!!!

Bloody hell that new one from Fontaines D.C is beyond awful, I couldn't even listen to the whole thing.