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Just an FYI on this one, but I think it was last week that it was certified Silver

How is Olivia Dean charting 4 different songs?

I’m hopeful Midnight Sun will rise throughout the week. Its Spotify streams have been gaining day by day and its spotify chart position is #41 it’s current highest position, so fingers crossed it will keep going.

Radio 1 probably has the biggest influence in terms of streaming media. Radio 2 probably has the biggest influence in terms of physical media. The commercial stations will all sit around the two of them in terms of chart impact. All are important and influence what we hear and where that translates into the charts.

Would really hope Midnight Sun can somehow climb top 20. I think if it did it would give it more exposure and come the mega hit it deserves.

Blue could do 15K if they’re adding 1K a day. Olivia averaging 2.2K a day so could end up on 14.5K. This is going to be tight. Glad Midnight Sun has gone up an extra place to #38. Hoping it can get that top 40

Yeah, even Steps did this too for their What the Future Holds singles. The difference here being that this a viral song aiding a newer less known track exposing it to more people.

The hilarious thing is I Think We’re Alone Now is due a 2020s hit. 1960s - original 1980s - Tiffany 2000s - Girls Aloud 2020s - Tiffany Reprise?

Xmas will have 2 days of data on SCR while Last Christmas etc will have 1 day of sales on ACR, which as the play listing becomes less, will become more disadvantaged for the Christmas songs on acr. I can see Lush Life taking advantage of this.

I’d imagine Boxing Day being a Friday and the Spotify data being missing has probably helped Xmas up a bit.

Yeah I’d imagine Driving Home has climbed due to you know, people probably driving home from the last couple of days. His passing will accelerate its accent and Christmas Eve probably usually its biggest day will be even more so now.

I do wonder how long this whole Christmas starts as soon as Mariah screams “it’s tiiiimmmmmeeeee” on 1st November will start to wear thing. It doesn’t feel that long ago since we packed up the Christmas songs and decorations from last years Christmas and then it suddenly rolled around again. It’s making not only charts feel stale, but the songs themselves. I’ve heard many people say they’re not listening to Christmas songs until December this year and I think that’s gonna start becoming more of a thing next year. What I will say regarding the whole Kylie/Amazon debate. Each one of the streams I gave to Kylie be it Amazon or YouTube, I actively pressed a button to listen to it. I can’t say the same for Last Christmas or the other Christmas songs this year. Funnily enough, I do actually think if there was able to have been a study pole on last weeks active listens, Kylie would probably come out on top.

That was playing on the radio at work when I got the alert on my phone. So sad.

I wouldn’t say pushing back releases is chart manipulation when that’s just scheduling. Shaky still wasn’t guaranteed a #1 by pushing it back a year but he gave the song more of a chance. He still needed people to go out and buy it. What is manipulation from the old days are those rumours of managers of the likes of Boyzone and Take That re-buying cd stock in the bulk load to appear were more popular then they were, but it worked, got them into the newspapers and smash hits and they took off. But the bigger the budget doesn’t always guarantee success - look at Girl Thing. The way the charts are now, it’s an odd one, in truth, it’s probably on a whole less manipulative then back in the day as let’s face it, this last week, how many people actively listening to Raye and the non Christmas songs, as opposed to Xmas, Last Christmas and All I Want? The Amazon manipulation is an interesting one, but I think with Kylie it was a case of all the right ingredients mixed together. A loyal fanbase who will go out and purchase a physical/digital copy adding complete sales in one go - combined with being high on the playlist of your favourite Aunt Alexa. It’s not a unique situation but it’s one that will be hard to replicate with the powers that the more seasoned Christmas songs have.

Maybe oldest female with a new song lol. But we still don’t know yet