Robbie

Its just a shame people have probably heard that song quite a few times, but sometimes are a bit ignorant and have to wait for a tv ad to feed it to them :rolleyes: . I'm not sure i've worded it the right way but i hope someone gets what i mean :P. I'm not saying people literally think: "Well i'm not gonna buy that song because it isn't on an ad/tv yet" obviously but an ad or being on X Factor always means people take more notice of the song and thats how music buying nowadays works: people will just wait for music to be given to them :mellow:

This week Alan Jones made a comment about Bonnie Tyler's "Total Eclipse Of The Heart" song, saying it normally sells about 300 copies per week but its appearance on an advert had pushed sales to over 2,000 a week. The same is probably true of any older song, it will take a media event (Advert, X Factor etc) to make many more people wish to purchase the song all at once.

Incidently I went onto Faith's official site - which i have never done can i add - see this has got me interested in her - and she is releasing a CHRISTMAS album! I am so excited by this, and hope there will be a UK release, especially now!

http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/search/goog...t_id=1003816823

According to that article the album was released last week in the US but it may have been put back? I've seen the 30th September as the release date. Most Christmas albums appear early in the US so it must be getting a release soon.

I read an article yesterday that she did a US concert last week where she was reduced to tears by a heckler in the audience insulting her husband - what's that all about?

i didnt know that!.... both are damn good songs , amoureuse a little gem about losing her virginity.

a poor chart from a poor year (in retrospect, at the time I knew no better and liked a lot of what I heard).

1 1 Abba - Dancing Queen................................................ I've never liked this song, even back then, thought it was overrated but I can admire that it is a well constructed song

2 3 Real Thing - Can't Get By Without You

3 9 The Wurzels - I Am A Cider Drinker............................ unbelievable to think rubbish like this could reach the upper reaches of the chart

4 10 Bay City Rollers - I Only Wanna Be With You

5 12 Pussycat - Mississippi............................................... oh, no! My sister used to play this over and over again and drove me crazy. I hate this song!

6 11 Manfred Mann's Earth Band - Blinded By The Light...... not bad, a Bruce Springsteen song from before he became famous

7 5 Mr Acker Bilk - Aria

8 2 Rod Stewart - The Killing Of Georgie........................... I actually bought this song back then and despite being young knew what it was about

9 13 Tina Charles - Dance Little Lady Dance

10 4 Georghe Zamfir - (Light Of Experience) Doina De Jale

11 23 Rod Stewart - Sailing {1976}

12 8 The Chi-Lites - You Don't Have To Go

13 6 Wings - Let 'Em In.................................................. I quite like this song

14 7 The Stylistics - 16 Bars

15 26 Kiki Dee - Loving And Free.................................... OK, but I preferred the B side which was her 1973 hit Amoureuse - I love that song

16 15 Barry White - Baby We Better Try And Get It Together

17 18 Cliff Richard - I Can't Ask For Anything More Than You Babe

18 19 Twiggy - Here I Go Again

19 34 Rick Dees And His Cast Of Idiots - Disco Duck........ incredibly awful record by the US DJ

20 27 The Bee Gees - You Should Be Dancing................. a song I didn't like in 1976 but grew to like in 1978 when it was in SNF and all over the radio

21 29 Elvis Presley - Girl Of My Best Friend

22 21 Lou Rawls - You'll Never Find Another Love Like Mine... I quite liked this

23 16 Billie Jo Spears - What I've Got In Mind

24 17 Bryan Ferry - Extended Play................................ The Price Of Love on this EP is great

25 37 The Ritchie Family - The Best Disco In Town......... I used to have this single, the first "disco" record (disco as in the type of music) I ever bought

26 14 Elton John And Kiki Dee - Don't Go Breaking My Heart... I owned this too, loved it then bored of it these days

27 24 Dr Hook - A Little Bit More.................................. I had this record too and back then compiled my own personal chart. This was my first ever number one!

28 25 Hot Chocolate - Heaven Is In The Back Seat Of My Cadillac

29 28 Tommy Hunt - Loving On The Losing Side

30 39 Can - I Want More

31 35 Lynyrd Skynyrd - Sweet Home Alabama/Double Trouble... from the Freebird EP, the latter not being credited on the charts until a 1979 re-entry

32 20 Jesse Green - Nice And Slow............................. I liked this back then, Radio One used to play both the vocal and instrumental versions at the time

33 41 The Drifters - Every Nite's A Saturday Night With You

34 49 James Brown - Get Up Offa That Thing

35 47 Gallagher And Lyle - Breakaway

36 48 JALN Band - Disco Music (I Like It)

37 30 Johnny Wakelin - In Zaire................................. this reminds me of sitting around a table with a bunch of mates at school and all singing and all using the table as the drums...

38 50 Randy Edelman - Uptown, Uptempo Woman....... my local radio station was still playing this in the late 80s as a "golden oldie". It's diabolical!

39 22 Starland Vocal Band - Afternoon Delight............ a massive US hit and a pleasant, but ultimately bland, song

40 45 Detroit Spinners - The Rubberband Man

41 43 Candi Staton - Destiny

42 38 Barry Biggs - Work All Day

43 46 Eddie and the Hotrods - Live At The Marquee

44 44 Peter Frampton - Baby I Love Your Way

45 New Sherbet - Howzat.......................................... one hit wonders from Australia, liked the song at the time

46 42 Johnny 'Guitar' Watson - I Need It

47 New Rubettes - Under One Roof

48 New England Dan And John Ford Coley - I'd Really Love To See You Tonight

49 New Elton John - Benny And The Jets

50 New Smokie - I'll Meet You At Midnight.................. I still like this song

Were Ice MC and Maxx (who did 'Get a Way') the same act?

 

The sounded almost identical.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ian_Campbell_(artist)

Ian Campbell is from Nottingham, Maxx are German / Swedish

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MAXX

but yes, I agree that they similar.

and these were the albums we were buying back then...

w/e 14/09/96

01 NE 01 Coming Up Suede

02 01 58 Jagged Little Pill Alanis Morissette

03 06 17 Older George Michael

04 NE 01 Bilingual Pet Shop Boys

05 07 11 The Smurfs Go Pop Smurfs

06 02 22 Moseley Shoals Ocean Colour Scene

07 04 49 (What's The Story) Morning Glory? Oasis

08 08 30 The Score Fugees

09 05 11 Recurring Dream - The Very Best Of Crowded House

10 09 03 The Ultimate Collection - Neil Diamond Neil Diamond

11 10 12 Free Peace Sweet Dodgy

12 11 26 Falling Into You Celine Dion

13 16 30 Ocean Drive Lighthouse Family

14 03 02 No Code Pearl Jam

15 14 13 18 Til I Die Bryan Adams

16 NE 01 Man Neneh Cherry

17 12 02 Voyager Mike Oldfield

18 15 45 Different Class Pulp

19 13 16 Everything Must Go Manic Street Preachers

20 17 106 Definitely Maybe Oasis

a strange time for me, I was in the middle of a nasty relationship breakup, a long term relationship, and spent most of this period in a drunken haze feeling sorry for myself...

These are the songs that I liked back then...

2 Fugees - Ready Or Not

3 The Spice Girls - Wannabe

5 Jamiroquai - Virtual Insanity

6 Stretch 'N' Vern Presents 'Maddog' - I'm Alive

12 The Charlatans - One To Another

13 Rocket From The Crypt - On A Rope

15 Space - Me And You Versus The World

16 Way Out West featuring Miss Joanna Law - The Gift

19 Underworld - Born Slippy

21 Sheryl Crow - If It Makes You Happy

23 Bone - Thugs-N-Harmony Tha Crossroads

26 Pet Shop Boys- Se A Vida E (That's The Way Life Is)

27 Alisha's Attic - I Am, I Feel

29 Dodgy - Good Enough

34 Wink - Higher State Of Consciousness '96 Remixes

35 Fugees - Killing Me Softly

36 Mansun - Three (EP) - Stripper Vicar

Plenty of songs in the chart I liked but I wouldn't want to go back to 1996 though!

from the print and digital editions of Music Week:

Chart eligibility rules are being relaxed to allow record labels to release albums with additional content and packaging during the crucial fourth quarter.

Following months of consultation across the industry, the Official Charts Company (OCC) last week announced it would permit a wider range of audio material with extras to be packaged within chart-qualifying special editions.

The new rules will be introduced as a six-month trial from Monday, September 29 and will cover deluxe formats as well as albums packaged with merchandise.

“This initiative has been driven by retail,” says OCC managing director Martin Talbot. “The overriding aim is to give labels the opportunity to put ‘value-added’ packages together to entice people to buy, while allowing the album to remain chart eligible.”

Last year an issue arose where additional audio on a reissued album of Amy Winehouse’s Back To Black resulted in the different versions having separate chart positions due to the existing chart rules.

Now, a standard album plus a reissue will be eligible for one chart position, provided that 100% of the original album appears on subsequent reformatted versions and the additional material has not been previously available to purchase in its entirety as a separate product.

This means that the reissue will be able to include unlimited additional audio and/or audio-visual material, either on the same disc or on an additional disc, with the sales counting towards the same chart position in the Official Albums Chart.

The existing 80% crossover rule will only apply when new versions of an album exclude tracks from the original version.

In 1999 I got 'The Box' on cable and everything just changed for me forever, I had all the current songs in front of me for the first time and watched it religiously, ringing up and requesting all my faves. That was the very moment I first got into music.

 

I still remember the songs I taped off that channel:

 

Steps - Better Best Forgotten :blush:

Cartoons - Witch Doctor :blush: :blush:

Fatboy Slim - Right Here Right Now (actually it's still cool to like this, the video's still amazing)

Various Artists (including Steps) - Thank ABBA For The Music :blush: :blush: :blush:

 

Then in 2001 I watched a channel called 'VH1' for the first time and discovered the 1980s, but I'll never forget '99 as the year it all started for me!

before my time, but not so far off from when I started following the charts that I actually recognise quite a few of the songs here without having to youtube them...

1 Slade - Mama Weer All Crazee Now......................... I wasn't a fan of Slade, but as their songs go this is one of the better ones

2 Rod Stewart - You Wear It Well............................... Not too bad

3 T Rex - Children Of The Revolution.......................... one of T Rex's better songs

4 Faron Young - It's Four In The Morning..................... I know I've heard it but I can't remember how it sounds

5 Lynsey De Paul - Sugar Me

6 David Cassidy - How Can I Be Sure......................... I don't mind this one

7 Roxy Music - Virginia Plain...................................... excellent song, I remember it more from its 1977 re-issue

8 Blackfoot Sue - Standing In The Road...................... I remember the video being embedded here a few months ago, quite good

9 Michael Jackson - Ain't No Sunshine......................... :puke2:

10 Mott The Hoople - All The Young Dudes.................. OK

11 Jackie Wilson - I Get The Sweetest Feeling............. good song

12 Cliff Richard - Living In Harmony

13 Donny Osmond - Too Young

14 The Drifters - Come On Over To My Place.............. remember this from the Wimpy burger adverts from the 80s

15 Derek & The Dominoes - Layla.............................. good song

16 Hawkwind - Silver Machine................................... love this song, remember it more from its 1978 re-issue and what a corker it is

17 Junior Walker & The All Stars - Walk In The Night... I LOVE this song, one of the first soul records I remember and I can remember loving this enough in 1975 to buy it second hand.

18 Little Eva - The Loco-Motion.................................. overrated song

19 The Sweet - Wig-Wam Bam.................................. dreadful!

20 Bill Withers - Lean On Me

21 Judge Dread - Big Six

22 Hot Butter - Popcorn............................................ I don't know whether I love or hate this song! I know I hate the Crazy Frog version...

23 Alice Cooper - School's Out.................................. loved this, not so much now from total over-exposure

24 Dandy Livingstone - Suzanne Beware Of The Devil

25 The Partridge Family - Breaking Up Is Hard To Do

26 Mardi Gras - Too Busy Thinking About My Baby

27 Hurricane Smith - Who Was It

28 Lieutenant Pigeon - Mouldy Old Dough.................. it sounds old even for 1972. Not too keen on it and wasn't then either.

29 The Bee Gees -- Run To Me................................. not bad

30 Terry Dactyl & The Dinosaurs - Seaside Shuffle.... different! I had to look it up on youtube as I thought I'd recognise it

31 Donny Osmond - Puppy Love.............................. :puke2: :puke2: :puke2:

32 The Hollies - Long Cool Woman In A Black Dress

33 Elton John - Honky Cat

34 Duncan Browne - Journey

35 David Bowie - John I'm Only Dancing.................. it took a 1979 re-issue for me to get to hear it. OK but not brilliant.

36 Johnny Nash - I Can See Clearly Now

37 Royal Scots Dragoon Guards Band - Heykens Serenade / The Day Is Ended

38 The Seashells - Maybe I Know

39 Judy Collins - Amazing Grace

40 The New Seekers - Circles................................. I liked this at the time...

Top 20 Albums w/e 04/09/82

01 01 07 Kids From Fame - Kids From Fame

02 NE 01 Upstairs At Eric'S - Yazoo

03 02 05 Too-Rye-Ay - Dexy's Midnight Runners

04 NE 01 Now You See Me Now You Don't - Cliff Richard

05 08 16 Rio - Duran Duran

06 06 10 The Lexicon Of Love - ABC

07 04 08 Love And Dancing - League Unlimited Orchestra

08 05 04 Love Songs - Commodores

09 03 16 Tropical Gangsters - Kid Creole & the Coconuts

10 09 19 Complete Madness - Madness

11 07 17 Fame - Original Soundtrack

12 12 03 Eye Of The Tiger - Survivor

13 13 02 The Cage - Tygers Of Pan Tang

14 10 04 Talking Back To The Night - Steve Winwood

15 11 14 Avalon - Roxy Music

16 18 06 Can't Stop The Classics - Hooked On Classics 2 - Royal Philharmonic Orchestra

17 23 02 The Singles Album - UB40

18 15 02 Rough Diamonds - Bad Company

19 17 04 The Jimi Hendrix Concerts - Jimi Hendrix

20 16 09 Mirage - Fleetwood Mac

Tygers Of Pan Tang! I'd forgotten about them! Were they really as bad as I remembered?

I had the following...

2 Dexy's Midnight Runners With The Emerald Express - Come On Eileen

3 Duran Duran - Save A Prayer

6 Rocker's Revenge featuring Donnie Calvin - Walking On Sunshine (12")

14 Talk Talk - Today

15 ABC - All Of My Heart (on the Lexicon Of Love album)

17 Grandmaster Flash & The Furious Five - The Message

22 Shalamar - There It Is (12")

25 Yazoo - Don't Go

27 Depeche Mode - Leave In Silence (12")

36 Evelyn King - Love Come Down

39 Simple Minds - Glittering Prize

The Message by Grandmaster Flash was initially a 12" only release and once it began to take off was made available on 7", which is the version I had. I have a feeling it didn't get a 7" release until it was in the top 10. The 7" contained the full 12" mix though and was edited down for radio, both for running time and language.

One of the worst songs in that top 40 is "Saddle Up" by David Christie which was based / sampled / ripped off the music from "You Can Do It" by Al Hudson from 3 years previous - the latter was a great song but Saddle Up was dreadful...

Quite a good chart, not the best, but some excellent songs in there.

I don't think all the blame can lie at the door of R1. The playlist regularly drops songs that have just made the charts, in favour of newer songs. On the other hand, not many people wish to listen to a station that only plays new music at the expense of chart songs.

Back in the 70s and 80s R1 only ever played chart music but that never stopped new songs from charting. I have R1 playlists from 1977 and they are all full of songs from the top 30, many songs were only added when they charted - which begs the question, where did people hear new music back then? There were less radio stations back then and less outlets for hearing new songs.

Yup, I agree too. The charts have become so slow that it has made the charts boring. Even when a song makes a big climb it's followed by a few weeks of crawling up the charts.

I wouldn't want a return to the charts of a few years ago, but now it's gone far too much the other way.

I'm too young to remember the 1971 roadshows, let alone any music that was played as the backing! I do have on tape the music that was used to promote the roadshow season in 1979 though, Rolf Harris singing "Roadshow Goes Everywhere"... it's terrible!

I used to listen in to the roadshows from the mid 70s to the early 90s, whenever I could. I liked the Bits And Pieces competition the best (in fact it was all I normally tuned in for), snippets of 10 songs that you had to name. I regularly used to get all 10...

I went to one roadshow, in summer 1975, Dave Lee Travis in either Whitley Bay or South Shields here in the north east, I've forgotten which one it was. I remember it was a hot day - the summer of 1975 was a good one, followed by an even better one a year later - and I remember there being masses of people, probably thousands, who had turned up.

^^ It's the same reason as for Viva La Vida and Falling Down...it's available when you pre-order the album.

I don't really understand why it's NCQ though, because people are still paying to download it.

if Hit Singles does appear with only top 40 weeks listed I too agree it is pointless, though I will probably still buy it. And yes, Music Week should start to carry the top 100 now, so it becomes "officially official" and therefore used for the likes of Hit Singles. In a way Music Week has already recognised positions 76-100 as being official. On the Airplay chart that Music Week publishes, the sales position of each song is also listed alongside all the airplay data (assuming the song is on the sales chart, of course). In recent times Music Week has listed the sales position if the song is in the top 100, at one time it was just the top 75.

Music Week is about to be relaunched with an apparently improved charts section, let's hope that the main chart becomes a top 100.

Wow, I can't believe Kylie sold only 7,000 at #3. :o

01 26,400 Steve Brookstein

02 21,744 Band Aid 20

03 7,304 Kylie Minogue

04 7,013 Ronan Keating

05 6,868 Ice Cube

06 6,650 Green Day

07 6,568 Uniting Nations

08 6,345 Lemar

09 6,040 Nelly & Christina

10 5,512 Natasha Bedingfield

poor sales is an understatement... but to be fair, this was before downloads were included and it was the sales period between Christmas and New Year when sales used to drop quite a bit. That said, the following week sales were little better!

Can I order the book even though I am US citizen?

The only problem might be the shipping costs but even they don't seem that bad unless you want the book by Priority Express which will effectively more than double the price:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/help/customer/d...nodeId=11072991

that would be £13 for the book and £18.99 for delivery, which is £31.99 or US $58.57 at current exchange rates. Without Priority Express it is Airmail Delivery and is £13 + £3.99 delivery = £16.99 or US $31.10. By November the exchange rate should be favour of the Dollar so the price should be lower...

The book may even end up selling at amazon.com as an import - some previous versions are on sale there now.

EDIT: actually the new version is on amazon.com so they obviously plan to stock it at the US version of amazon at some point:

http://www.amazon.com/Virgin-Book-British-...429&sr=8-12