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  1. I seriously hope we can get some new music off her... the podcast was such a missfire and waste of time.. I hope they at least got paid big bucks as it was on the world's most successful podcast production platform - Global - but still... those YouTube numbers were abysmal lol
  2. God damn it... hope the year somehow improves with her... I gather no more Unlikely Friends?
  3. 4. Naked Score: 8,47 Undress you with her eyes Uncover the truth from the lies Strip you down don't need to care Lights are low exposed and bare Now THIS is a nice surprise! Moody, experimental Spice strikes gold again thanks to the boys at Absolute. I'm ever so glad as a fan that they were not just this teen-pop act but instead they created really interestin, nuanced and experimental music like this. Naked is perhaps the best example of this side of the girls, the big sister to Take Me Home, for sure. A very somber number with a narrative about a girl who is trying to stand on her own, in power, and in control of her sexuality and body in the face of the mysoginy she endures throughout her life. The verses go from soft spoken by Geri, then the pre-chorus is sang in a haunting way by Emma and Mel B, then the chorus is Emma, Mel C and Victoria belting out and interchanging the lines between them. There are two bridges technically, with the first being a unique production trick by Absolute, where we hear Emma on an eerie phone call where she proclaims that she would 'rather be hated than pitied', before Mel C comes in and belts out the second bridge. Lyrically, it is stunningly well written, one of their very best on the record, as it gives us a full and very vived narrative of the character's behaviours, what is done to her and how she deals with it. Even though it created iconic moments in both Istabul and the Spiceworld tours, sadly it hasn't been performed since 1998, and personally I would love it if they brought it back. They don't need to pretend to be naked for it anymore like then, just treat it as a song about a girl standing on her own against her demons, perform as you would any other ballad, with a bit of theatricality thrown in.
  4. 5. If You Wanna Have Some Fun Score: 8,27 Now you're standing real close to me I feel your heat, you wanna get with me Wink, wink, nudge, nudge Tell me, do you like the rudest stuff? When the Spice Girls were on tour in 1998 in North America, two iconic music producers Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis, came to see the band play and decided to introduce themselves to them. Clearly interested in the group, they suggested they should work together. This was a unique invitation since Jam & Lewis hadn't at this point worked with non-USA acts and they often produced and wrote everything whereas this time, knowing the girls wrote their own music, they were open to collaborate. Jam & Lewis are some of the most recognised and venerated producers in music history having worked on seminal and legendary records with the likes of Janet Jackson, Prince, Luther Vandross, Mary J Blige and Chaka Khan. You can't get more legendary than that! All the girls were big fans of course and jumped at the chance. Once the tour was over, Mel B and Victoria took some downtime to rest due to their pregnancies, while Emma and Mel C travelled to Dublin to work with Matt & Biff and then to Nashvile to work with Jam & Lewis. Demos were made, and they bonded so well that they decided to finish two songs out of the five they worked on then. However, this work wouldn't be completed until September 1999 in London - a rare feat as the producers had never travelled outside of the US to work (this is the same with Darkchild, who did just that in January 1999 to work with them as well. From all of these sessions, we only know of possible 3 that were eventually released : Christmas Wrapping with Matt & Biff, and If You Wanna Have Some Fun and Oxygen. Of course there are more that we have no idea about, but we have some insights into at least how If You Wanna Have Some Fun came about. Emma mentioned at the time a song called If Ya Do, which is now part of the Forever lore but for all we know this could have been an initially working title for what the became the full song. Also, a track called Girls Just Wanna Have Fun (A Night To Remember) was registered on ASCAP which could be another demo for the song, since the final track includes a sample of A Night To Remember and the 'girls just wanna have fun' line could very well be an initial lyric of the song that then got transformed/changed. Sadly, it seems like we will never know if all of this is just rumours/misunderstandings but most of it point towards the process of the song being made. AND WHAT A SONG! Initially tauted as a possible single from the album, it was also one of the few that was met with critical and fan-acclaim upon release. Emma and Victoria mentioned it was their favourite in some of the interviews back then. Certainly, one of the main points of praise is its production that seems to tap into the Spice 90s pop sound, blend it with 70s Disco and elevate their sound to a new level of maturity, in similar ways to what Oxygen did with their 'ballads sound'. The nods to flirting, being in command of a possible one-night stand, girl power, it's all there and it is sang beautifully. Jam & Lewis seemed to really understand and love the girls, and it shows! The track is obviously the most loved out of the fans, and often people call for it to be eventually performed live. Back in 2001, a promo CD of it was sent to radios and industry players, and it got some radio rotation in promotion for the album. It was taunted as a possible single (perhaps if the campaign extended for the summer after Tell Me Why!), and it is considered in the Spice fandome as one of their biggest misses in terms of 'could have been a hit!'. A promo video even was sent to TV channels back in late 2000, with footage from the band's history and Spiceworld tour, but it seems to have gotten lost in the vaults! A cute fact is that in this rate, the only two songs from Forever to make the Top10 were the Jam&Lewis tracks. Should they have gone with them for the full production instead of Darkchild once they chose to go more 'American r&b' in late 1999? Seemingly, it seemed like it was a match made in heaven! We hope we get a performance of this song one day! It was a really missed opportunity in 2019 not to include this in the 'disco section' of the show. It would have been PERFECT instead of them doing another cover of We Are Family!
  5. you do have to remember that while Geri's mum was fluent in Spanish, she was already in the UK by a long time by the time this verse was written PLUS she was not a song writer lol so for all we know it could have made sense to her But I do think there is some exaggeration in this yes
  6. I totally agree with this, and there were even rumours that If U Can't Dance was slatted to be a single but I don't think it was ever confirmed.
  7. 6. If You Can't Dance Score: 8.18 Now we got the flavour, the bad behaviour The rhythm, the melody, the juice for you to savour We're rockin' and vibin' but somebody is jivin' You need to take a tip, sort it out, get a grip The iconic - ICONIC - If You Can't Dance sits just outside of the top5 here, and it is safe to say that this is one of the girls - and the fans - favourite tracks. Sampling the Digital Underground's "The Humpty Dance", the track closes the Spice album in incredible cool fashion. Cool is indeed the word here, as the album closed with two back-to-back moody and experimental tracks, which was rare for a pop girlband of the time. It is also the only experimental pop track that Matt & Biff did with the girls, sounding more like an Absolute track than anything else... It's production is immaculate, the lyrics outstanding and the two main verses by both Mel B and Geri, alongside the bridge by Mel C and Emma, are sublime. I don't think it is an exageration to say this. It was so well loved that they even opened two of their main 99's tours - Istanbul and Spiceworld Tour 1998 - with it, and the performance at Istanbul became an iconic moment in pop history back in 1997! The only time they didn't perform it was in the 1999 tour and it was definitely missed then. The song came back for the 2007 Return tour and the 2019 tour, but it is safe to say that in both times, it was sadly received a bit 'flat' overall, with the 2007 version being the biggest let down as they only repeated the 'if you can't dance' bit over and over again over the sample... A few fan-facts of interest: Gerita Halliwell recently said If U Can't Dance was her favourite Spice Girls track A few of the girls mentioned that Geri's mum co-wrote most of the Spanish verse Sadly, Victoria is nowhere near this song, I don't think she turns up at all not even in backing tracks. She does do chorus live, but just like most Biff & Matt productions on the album versions (2 Become 1 and Wannabe for instance), she is nowhere to be found.. It is their most streamed album track on Spice album even though it is the last on the tracklist.
  8. 8. Denying Score: 8.10 You think you're quick But I'd like to see you keep up with me You think you're slick But I'd like to see you pull a trick on me Spiceworld's most r&b number, Denying would have sat perfectly well both in Spice and in Forever. It provides a perfect bridge between the two, and marks what is perhaps the band's most solid r&b track, providing the perfect segway on the album to Viva Forever. Moody, with a vibe full of gritty girl-power, it is quite a subdued anthem with clever verses which sees four girls - Emma, Victoria, Mel B and Geri bouncing between them to take on a 'big man who thinks he is smart', reminding him that most of what he says is actually GASLIGHTING and everyone can see. The harmonies? PERFECT. The lyrics? PERFECT. The vocals? PERFECT. The storyline, PERFECT! Mel C leads the ad-libs throughout and it is truly a shame that this gorgeous song was the only performed for half a world tour once and never again, as it would have fitted really well with the rest of their more r&b tracks on stage. JUSTICE FOR DENYING!! 7. Something Kinda Funny Score: 8.12 Wherever you're going, high or low Remember to sure enjoy the show So climb aboard my journey deep inside Better late than dead on time Something Kind of Funny was one of the first songs the band did with Absolute and also the one that they performed for Simon Fuller when trying to convince him to take them on as their manager. It worked! And the rest is history. The band has a special relationship to it, having been performed on every tour (apart from the Return tour), and one can imagine why as it was written to showcase their blend of personalities and ethos: girl power, sassy and empowering, while singing about how they have 'something special' together. It is funky and jazzy - perhaps their first release that showcases this side to them, proving how versatile they could be. Emma sound absolutely divine in it, with her adlibs and background vocals leading the song. Just like in Viva Forever, she is all over the song doing backing vocals to all while taking the lead in the bidge, chorus and some verses. Perfect!
  9. I never really got the love for Walk of Life. It's fine, but it is not album worth it. It sits, for me in the same braket as Outer Space Girls - perfectly great bsides where the girls attempted some specific genres they hadn't yet up to that point, but didn't quite manage to make those songs great, just fine. Oxygen is a GEM of a song and totally agree with you and yes one of their best. This is what 'mature Spice' was to me, whereas LLLTW was a more r&b attempt at replicating the magic of Goodbye. I could totally see Gerita also getting in the Oxygen performance on a future tour, though sadly I don't think it will happen at all...
  10. You are right, it was in the North American tour, which is even more crazy since it was more popular in Europe??
  11. 10. Step To Me Score: 8,01 Now it's time, come prove your words to me If you think you've got what it takes There's no time for your insecurities I'm gonna wipe that smile off your face First recorded during the Spice era sessions with Elliott Kennedy and produced by Absolute, this pop-rock-funk number has had quite the curious trajectory in Spiceworld. The sister song to Move Over, it was first included as a Pepsi-exclusive quasi-single where you had to collect a number of cans in order to get a free CD single with it - and which included three other remixes. Apparently it sold around 600,000 copies in the first couple of months of the promotion, which is incredible and could have led to yet another #1 for the band in the summer of 1997, but it was not chart-eligible even though it was all over radio across UK and Europe. However, it provided the perfect bridge between the pop-r&b mood of Spice to the more hyper-pop-focused Spiceworld! Sadly, even though it was considered for the album, it only made it as an exclusive in the Japan edition of Spiceworld. Another missed opportunity in Spiceworld for sure! However, it was so successful in fact that even though by the end of the summer you couldn't get it anywhere, it was performed in the Istanbul concerts in 1997, the European leg of the Spiceworld Tour in 1998, a TV performance at TFI Friday and YET AGAIN in the Christmas in Spiceworld Tour in 1999! All of these performances were iconic, and seemingly the band loved it! It certainly provided a boost of energy to their catalogue and it was MAD that it wasnt included in their Greatest Hits since it seems like a central point in the band in their mainstream success era. By 2000 however, it was pretty much forgotten by the band and seemingly everyone else, and it did not even make an appearance in the 2007 and 2019 tours, sadly. Maybe as they matured, they didn't want to perform it anymore as it is too rocky? It was only in 2022 that it became available on CD, Vinyl, Cassette and Digital when it was released as the first offering of the 25th anniversary of the Spiceworld celebrations, to much fan-fare and appreciation. It is a huge fan favourite and provides quite great girl-power lyricism and a pretty iconic pre-chorus from Baby and Posh! Let's hope they do it again live when - if - they ever tour again! 9. Oxygen Score: 8.09 Make sure you're there to answer when love Comes around Don't be surprised When true love knocks at your door Quite a surprise this one is so high here, but it is a welcome development for sure. One of their most underrated ballads and overall songs. It is Emma's favourite in the album too (she said so in 2019!). A stunning ballad produced by the iconic duo Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis, it was critically acclaimed when the album was released and provides one of the most intimate and revealing moments in their discography, with all the girls writing and singing about how they interpret love. Knowing what we know about their love lives back in 2000, it makes it even more intimate and beautiful. When Emma sings 'you're in every breath I take', it just floors me.. Beautifully sand and written, the band took a new approach to writing, where they each went off on their own in the studio and wrote their respective verses from their own perspective and then came together to write the chorus. The production is simply stunning, like a timeless ballad. Had it been released as a single, it could have been up there with their most famous, in my opinion. I would venture to say that it would have been a better Double A Side to Holler than Let Love Lead The Way, even! As many have mentioned, Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis seemed to work really well with the band, tapping into their pop sound and elevating it to new hights, bringing a 70s vintage quality to it. It works pretty well here, with this being their most unique ballad to date, in many ways, while also having a timeless quality to it. I know some fans get quite annoyed by the 'water drop' sound production element but it was quite unique at the time, and personally it doesn't bother me at all anymore. I love it, it sounds like they are literally dripping with love. Pure stunning and thankfully, justice has been done to it here, at least.
  12. So before we enter the final Top10, here is a little breakdown of what's coming: We have 2 songs left from Forever There is 1 almost-single that has been performed in three of their tours! 3 songs from Spiceworld to go! 4 songs from Spice to go!
  13. 14. Walk of Life Score: 7,27 The sun goes down and the lights come up So we move on to a club Surround yourself with the feel-good groove People dancin' everywhere BuzzJack's favourite b-side is Walk of Life, one of the most lauded and loved b-sides by the whole fandom at large. This raggae-pop number sees the girls paying homage to London, perhaps continuing with the whole 'cool britannia' shtick they had going on during 1997. Somehow the lyrics make it sound like they don't know London at all LOL it's just platitudes and random scenarios, but alas, it kind of works as a whole. While it is a bit of a vibe and cool summer number, even providing one of the most fun bridges with Mel B's "Zing-zing-zinga, zing-zing-zinga" lyric, it also provides one of the worst moments in Spice Girls discographies: Victoria's voice in her verse, where she tries to sing on a higher register and sounds completely off. It's pretty awful from the queen of harmonies and pre-choruses! Interestingly, this song was meant for the album, just like Outer Space Girls and Step To Me. It was included in promo CDs for the album right after Move Over but it was demoted to b-side ultimately because they wanted to keep the Spiceworld album to 10 tracks just like their previous one. Was it a mistake? 13. Last Time Lover Score: 7,45 We got up and down to it (Oh yeah) Like the dirty bass in the music (Uh) I got my major chords strumming Took some time and then we're really buzzing First bite whet my appetite (Mmm) Second helping's always better (Ah) Horny Spice strikes again! This sexy, sultry number was the most r&b of the Spice album, and saw the girls - well, mainly Mel B, Emma and Geri - give true girl power in chasing a man and having fun with him all night long, until they are done. It also gives us Geri's first solo rap in on the album (the second being If You Can't Dance's). It is another great example of how Absolute really took the girls down onto a cool, sexy, moody version of the group, which was later kind of ditched for Spiceworld since they were aiming to appease their mainly pop-audience but later revived for Forever. It has also been said that it sounds a bit like a TLC song! Two fan facts: Up to this date, this is the only song from the first two albums to not get a single performance, not even a mimed one! A shame as I would have loved a performance of it. This is probably the first GEM song 😅 It's literally just Emma, Geri and Mel B here, with Mel C and Victoria on very background-background vocals on the chorus only. 12. Move Over Score: 7,90 We're sowing the seed (Seed), Every colour, every creed (Creed) Teach, never preach, listen up and and take heed An iconic 90s song, that the whole world got to listen to as part of their Pepsi merchandise deal. In fact, the song borrows from the Pepsi adverts jingle to make a full song out of it. In retrospect, it is WILD that they were so embedded in comercial deals that a Pepsi advert jingle got to be ON THE DAMN MAIN ALBUM!!! This was very much a point of criticism at the time and perhaps around this time it was when the backlash started against too much merchandise and deals instead of them focusing on the music. Still, it is an iconic BOP and quite anarchic as a song, having a very loose structure and the girls' energy at the highest point ever, shouting-singing throughout it! The girls battling in the verses and then randomly shouting words in the bridge will never not be iconic. It is also one of their most memorable album tracks! The performances of it in Istanbul became iconic but later ditched after the initial run of Spiceworld Tour in 1998. It appeared again in a video-segment intro to Holler in the 2019 tour. 11. Tell Me Why Score: 8 What made you think that without me Your life would be so much better? But now you see that without me your hopes and dreams Will never be as good as what you had with me The second song from Forever is also the one with the hardest-hitting beats and angriest lyrics. Opening with an iconic and beautifully sang verse by Lady Beckham, it was slotted to be the album's second (third? fourth?) single in March 2001 before it got cancelled as the group disbanded at the time. Art work was commissioned and a few promo CDs and vinyls were sent out to radios with remixes by Jonathan Peters and Thunderpuss, which are to this perceived at some of their very best, with one even showing up on their Greatest Hits. It is a shame they never got officially released. Recorded in Miami, USA, in Spring 2000 after the band decided to go full r&b, the song is lauded as one of their best from the era by fans and critics alike. Still there is a bittersweet part to it, which is that this was one of the songs recorded during a time when Mel C refused to go in the studio with the rest of the girls and 'sang her parts later'. She doesn't appear in the writing credits and quite frankly she sounds detached from it all, only appearing half-way through the song with ad-libs slotted in and doing the bridge. I am not sure she is even in the chorus at all?...
  14. Dreaming of a Spice tracklist like this: Wannabe Say You'll be There 2 Become 1 Love Thing Last Time Lover Step To me Who Do You Think You Are Take Me Home Bumper To Bumper Something Kinda Funny Naked If You Can't Dance This would have been f***ing perfect actually
  15. 16. The Lady is a Vamp Score: 7,19 Scary, baby, ginger, posh Sporty, yes, now that's your lot We're the Spice Girls, ready to go Right bang in the middle of the rate lands one of the most divisive album tracks of their 90s' output. The group obviously loves this song as it has been a central piece of most of their tours since Spiceworld Tour 1998, and they have often referenced it as 'Geri's baby' since she is a big lover of big-band, Shirley Bassey type of songs. The song is a camp, fun little song, perfectly closing the Spiceworld album with clevel word-play and call outs to iconic celebrities and artists of yesteryear, while announcing that the Spice Girls are here to stay (although Gerita herself left less than a year later lol) and positioning the band amongst those icons of popular culture. Writing-wise it is one of their most clever and you can tell Geri was feeling herself here as not only she drives the song, but it has 'written by Geri' allover it. She deserves the credit for sure! Still, it is one of the moments on tour that fans are a bit less interested in as it is not one of their most 'wanted' songs nor does it ever provide any special moments on tour. It is all a bit 'cabaret-lite' whenever they do it. Spice World Tour 2019 might have been its more forgettable performance yet, so I would expect it to be left behind if they ever do another tour (please!). 15. Take Me Home Score: 7,19 (yes technically the same as TLIAV but it had more 10s so it is slotted higher here!) Sittin' in a white room dreaming of a life You have got me thinkin' what is paradise? Should I take an ocean drive, coolin' from the sun? Silver screen got me thinking this is how it should be done This is SHOCKINGLY LOW!! What the hell?? Often labelled as one of their masterpieces that should have been included on the Spice album, it is a moody, somber song that rivals Naked and If You Can't Dance in the 'dark Spice' categories. Absolute really took the girls to areas of creativity that Matt and Biff couldn't: that of introspection and wonder. Lyrically it is one of their best writen songs without a doubt. Just the wordplay and singing in the duet between Emma and Mel C in the 3rd verse is to cry for. I remember being a kid and being really arrested at its beauty and how visually and narratively interesting it was. Personally I always thought it deserved a spot in the album, instead of Mama (I SAID IT!!!) or at least as Track 11. It seems wrong for such an amazing song to be left as a b-side. Here, it had mostly high scores apart from a 4 and a 3 which dragged it down to outside of the Top10!!
  16. 18. Get Down With Me Score: 7 Now that you know how it goes We can do it again And this night will never end Horny Spice is back baby!! Get Down With Me is the little sister to Holler from its conception and rhythm, to its intention where basically all the girls are finding a guy in the club and taking them home to have spicy time (sex... they are talking about sex and they are HORNEY for these guys!). Like Wasting My Time, it is often a bit missunderstood as a song, dismissed a bit as part of a middle section of an album that for some 'sounds like the same song'. Again, had those two not been placed together on the album maybe they would be given more respect - as they deserve! Originally the song was titled Groove With Me and even showed up on some digital platforms in the 2000s under that title upon the album's release. It is also one of Mel B and Emma's favourites on the album. Personally, this only faulters a bit for me as the production sounds a bit too barebones, it could be a bit more developped on that front. But overall, Top Bop! 17. Right Back At Ya (Original Pop Mix) Score: 7,18 Now, we've had a taste of what we all can achieve But we're comin' back for more To show you how To turn your dreams into a reality Stronger than before The final leaked demo from the original Elliott Kennedy 1999 sessions, and the ONLY album track to be performed live from this era, and performed from its original demo version too rather than the final product! It is clearly the best song from the EK sessions, and showcased the Spice Girls in hungry mode for more, and putting their foot down on demanding respect for their work and legacy! It is, to this day, the ONLY released song they sing about their achievements and legacy. An iconic demo in the fandom, it certainly matches the energy the group still was displaying in 1999 as a band. The funk-pop production and the attitude are top notch here, and it is easy to see how they wanted to keep this for the album. It is often said that this should have been a single in 1999 or at least in Spring 2000, and kept in this funk-pop form for the album. Certainly it would have fitted well in the overall Forever sound, as a companion piece to songs like If You Wanna Have Some Fun and even Wasting My Time. It matched those song's vibes sound-wise, and would have provided another song that seemed like a more natural progression of their sound on the album. Sadly, as we damn well know, the song was bast*rdised by Darkchild on the album. Ah well... I could see this version being performed in the future again, at least as an intro or part of a medley.
  17. Personally I don't quite agree, they are such different songs in many ways. Get Down With Me is closer to Holler than anything else. Wasting My Time is track #6 and comes after 4 almost back to back hard hitting-beats upbeat tracks, a flow only slightly broken by LLTW at #3. Like @-Jay- said, I also do wish it was planced elsewhere on the record so as to not give these comparisons because I genuinely think it is unfair on the song. Again, had it been placed at #8 just before If You Wanna Have Some Fun would have given it more room to breathe while also providing another boost of energy to a very slow back end of the album. #JUSTICEFORWASTINGMYTIME SOMEONE GET VICTORIA TO SING IT ON TIK TOK AND MAKE IT GO VIRAL??!!!
  18. I've given up being optimistic to be honest with you but let's see...
  19. I just watched some clips and wow that was a bit bad hey?... I saw some comments online saying 'Karaoke Spice' and sadly it checks out ☹️ I hope she was paid GOOD!
  20. It feels so good to be RIGHT!! It should have been a b-side at best, or thrown in the trash completely! HAPPY NEW YEAR BIATCH!
  21. 20. Right Back At Ya Score: 6,81 Spice it up through and through, through and through to the limit They all try and diss us but there ain't nothing in it The album version of Right Back At Ya could very well be labelled as the Darkchild Mix of the song. Infamously the only track from the 1999 sessions with the old Spice-producers crew to survive the 'lets go full on r&b' turn of the band's sound, Right Back At Ya is also the only album track to be performed live still to this day (stream the video linked please cos they surely need it as it is embarassing it has barely crossed the 10,000 streams after 3 weeks like a Mel C 3rd single's music video!) Think it is fair to say that this also a bittersweet moment in Forever. Originally recorded as a funk-pop track with a lot of energy and punch, the song was then given to Darkchild to turn into a 'plodding along r&b track devoided of any flavour' as Elliot Kennedy called it (he was right!). While in 1999 the song was treated as a strong-enough contender for a single, even getting a performance slot in one of the group's live tours as a preview to the upcoming album, by the time Forever was released, the reaction to it was nothing more than a big 'meh'... Somehow it seemed old news and like a missed opportunity, forgotten in the middle of the 'hard-hitting section' of Forever. Was Elliott right? Did they miss the chance of using the original to mix up the album's sound? we will never know... 19. Do It Score: 6,90 Keep your mouth shut, keep your legs shut, get back in your place Ha, blameless, shameless, damsel in disgrace Interviewer: Hey Mel C, what is your least favourite Spice Girls song? Mel C: Do It. For once, Mel C, we do agree. To be fair to Mel, she also says Voodoo, depending on which song she remembers first I guess lol One of the most empowering-lyrics matched with anthemic sounding production of their catalogue, for sure, even if the chorus is the most superficial, AI-sounding mess of a chorus of any of their songs. Even Voodoo's chorus is better and less generic than this. Sadly, it just makes the whole song sound superficial and awkward. Live, it always just plods along as well... What saves it is the beautiful vocals from Emma and Mel C, and some of the clever lyrical play in the verses. Still, it is the only song I skip from any of their albums as it is grating as hell.
  22. @-Jay- THANK GOD someone agrees on Wasting My Time. It's such a great song, well written and produced. The only thing missing is Mel B on it as I think she would have sounded great too. And yeah, maybe it Weekend Love and Wasting My Time swapped places it would be better? Or after Time Goes By so the last section of the album wasn't so slow?... When it comes to Horny Spice, they did come back a bit with Forever, as Holler, Get Down With Me and If You Wanna Have Some Fun do thread on them being horny and having sex but it is not so 'in your face' as they were before Spice was released lol
  23. Can someone with a Wikipedia account update the pages for UK best selling singles? It is embarassing that the girls are not included when Wannabe, 2 Become 1 and Say You'll be There/Spice Up your Life should be included, at the very least... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_singles_in_the_United_Kingdom Also, it annoys me that they are listed in the 'best selling albums' lists on Wikipedia with Spice at 23million and Spiceworld with 14million when we know they sold more than that... These are the same sales since like 1999... Surely we can find reliable sources that put Spice at 30million and Spiceworld at least at 17million????
  24. I'M (drunk) AND STILL MIFFED THAT WASTING MY TIME IS SO DAMN LOWWW!!!!! I am literally surrounded by people with awful taste
  25. 25. My Strongest Suit Score: 6,27 I would rather wear a barrel than conservative apparel Because dress has always been my strongest suit Written by Elton John and Tim Rice for inclusion in their musical AIDA this song was given to the Spice Girls to record and for exclusive inclusion in its Soundtrack. It never officially became a single, though it did get quite good radio play at the time and Mel C and Victoria even gave some interviews in early 1999 to promote it. The opportunity for another big hit was certainly there but Victoria and Mel B were giving birth to their children around this time, so obviously the Spice Girls were not releasing any more music for a while, let alone a one-off single from a soundtrack of a stage musical. A shame though, as it could have been a fun little single to add to their catalogue of hits, and provide a much needed boost of energy to their 1998-2000 output, while fitting really well with their Greatest Hits, for instance, and in the Return tour at least. While it is a big pop number and sonically very close to the Spice Girls own music, thematically it is a big shift for the Spice Girls as for the first time they sing about material things being the most important thing to them, which was very off-brand (musically at least, because it was very on-brand for their merch brand lol)... 24. Weekend Love Score: 6,70 (MEL B BARGES THROUGH THE STUDIO DOOR) Every time I turn around you're standing right there I really don't want you and I really don't care Probably the most bittersweet of all Forever tracks, a song that divides the fandom constantly. Some love it, some absolutely hate it because of Mel B's rap, some just think it is lame and naff. Thematically it is very on-brand for the Spice Girls and very girl power, about a one-night stand or small fling, and one of the most interesting lyrically. Interestingly this was probably one of the most radio-ready songs of the album, for its production and vibe was very much en vogue at the time. So much so that a promo CD was even made, with many rumours floating around that this was going to be a single after Tell Me Why and If You Wanna Have Some Fun, had the group stayed together. I can totally see it actually as this sound was very popular at the time and this is still the most POP of all the songs on the album. 23. Give You What You Want / If It's Loving On Your Mind Score: 6,72 Just because I kept your pager number Doesn't mean I wanted to go on Don't you know? That is just the way I am, boy The third leak from the infamous Elliott Kennedy leaks to leave the rate, this is often banged about by fans as a bop and possible single in 1999. However, there is very little information on this song that points in that direction other than fan-delusion. The most pop-by-numbers of the 4 leaked tracks, it sounds very very close to a FIVE or Backstreet Boys sound of the time, which was a popular sound in the UK at the time, and most probably why it was left on the cutting room floor. It also provides some of the WORST lyrics of their career, only made up by the girls singing beautifully over it. Sure, maybe with some more work on the lyrics the track could be improved, but it is an attempt to sound like other bands of the time, and so not Spice Girls at all, imo. Personally, it sounds like a Walk of Life or Outer Space Girls to me: tracks that sound like they couldn't really be bothered too much and tryed - and failed - to recreate other popular sounds. It probably would have ended up as a b-side somewhere had they actually released singles in 1999. 22. Wasting My Time Score: 6,76 Baby, who was the one who treated you so bad that you Felt that you had to do to me what she had done to you? EVERYONE WHO VOTED LOWER THAN 8 FOR THIS TRACK COME OUTSIDE RIGHT NOW, I JUST WANNA TALK!!!! I am actually shocked this is so low, as many have considered it in the past as one of the best on Forever. Yet the BuzzJacks shit all over it and FAIL to give taste! Wasting My Time provides one of the sassiest, most girl-power and funkiest moments on Forever, while also being one of the oddest. Coming right after Get Down With Me on the album is probably one of the biggest flaws as it is quite close rhythmically to that song, but it is a groove indeed! Lyrically also one of the best on the album with wordplay all over it and all three girls who sing on it providing excellent vocals! Strangelly, Victoria does not have a writing credit at all on the track even though she shines singing all over it. On the other hand, Melanie B has a writing credit but is nowhere to be heard - not even on backing vocals or harmonies at all. A fan-fact: this was the last track recorded by the band for the album. In Summer 2000, after the group decided to give Darkchild the Executive Producing role, they were lacking some more songs that made a cohesive sound. So they went back into the studio and recorded this, as well as the r&b version of Right Back At Ya that eventually made the album. Rumour has it that an r&b version of WOMAN was also attempted during this time but they decided that this version didnt work. 21. Bumper To Bumper Score: 6,78 Pull over, pull over You're drivin' me reckless Over the limit Alright, you're gonna get this Bumper to bumper Bumper to bumper I want to drive your body All night I want a back seat lover All right Horny Spice are my favourite Spice! Perhaps too raunchy for the album itself, this is one of the most interesting and experimental tracks they did back in the Spice era before they went almost full-mainstream Pop. They are literally singing about going out into town on the pull and jumping on a guy's dick! They were quite horny during their first era, from Bumper to Bumper, to Feed Your Love, C U Next Tuesday, Last Time Lover (which apparently was first conceived as First Time Lover) and even 2 Become 1. Strange they never revisited this type of track in their subsequent albums and sound. Once their demographic was established as teens and young girls and gays, the horny-sultry Spice went out of the window... Technically the second released song by the band, as the very first b-side to Wannabe, this sultry, horny pop number was a fun companion to the lead single and showcased the Spice Girls in contrasting light to it. Co-written by the iconic Cathy Dennis, it has always been a highlight of their b-sides catalogue but strangely was left out from the Spice25 celebrations!