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Nope, it was on air, on sale like pretty much everything in Australia. I said on another forum that as soon as Pink is out it'd shoot to #1 on itunes and it has :yahoo: I think Australia is probably the best example of OA/OS, its works well there because everything is released like that and radio latch onto songs extremely quickly as well.

Being a fan of the Australian charts, I know the answer. Back in the late 90s and early to mid Noughties, labels deleted songs from production whilst they were still high to help sell the album etc. This lead to many big songs having short or odd chart runs. In Celine's case, her label stopped producing the single to help the album. Being a smaller market, supply ran out quick so it dropped 1-24. 2 weeks later, her label decided to reissue the single but make the dance remix the A side, hence it climbed back very quickly. Loads of songs had awful runs, Complicated by Avril fell 1-10, Jesse McCartney fell 1-15, Everytime by Britney fell 1-2-18-29-out. They even deleted novelty songs, Who Let the dogs out went 3-1-1-1-1-2-24-out! There are many examples as well.

I find it interesting that some labels are able to delete the fake versions while others don't. I wonder if there's a reason for that (i.e. it costs to get fakes deleted or some labels can't for some reason?). Whistle definately won't reach #1 this week though I am half expecting it to be reach #2. Next week it will certainly be Cheryl and now Maroon 5 will have an easy #1 the following week. Had Whistle been released the same week as Maroon 5, I am almost certain it would have beaten Payphone. Whistle's only chance is if one of the above underperforms or it takes advantage in late June/July due to a lack of new releases. I can see Maroon 5 being incredibly front loaded

Actually it has a good chance of debuting at #1 in Germany/Austria/Switzerland. Its had a big lead in Austria and Germany all week and I can't see it missing it there to be honest (especially as its been confirmed it will chart in Germany). You also need to remember it debuted in Spain thanks to just 1/2 days at #1 (their chart goes from Monday to Sunday). So its been #1 so far in Sweden, Norway, Finland, Denmark and Ireland and I'd say there will certainly be more countries to follow next week.

That voting looks very interesting. I remember last year they did the order to make it as exciting as possible. Do they do it based on the Jury voting (presumingly they know what they have now obviously voted for). I'd imagine a few of the Eastern countries (ie. Serbia/Ukraine/Russia) will take early leads and possibly there'll be a surge from Sweden towards the end? Who knows, like Goodelta says, if Sweden are lagging behind midway they have some hope.

Re: Loreen I have been following the thread on Digitalspy, most people saw that she ate the snow and she DID mess up the next line but apparently she recovered well. Some are worried it may knock down the jury vote abit though. While others said that while many big eurovision fans noticed it, there were several who didnt really notice it (especially people watching for the first time) so who knows how the jury will vote. Apparently Spain were amazing though.

Shame about the Netherlands but it was kind of to be expected. Quite nervous about the drawer now, just hoping Sweden get a good drawer, I think even she got 12th or 17th she would still do well (just not 4th or 5th)

I agree, whilst there are several big contenders, I can totally see Russia winning the televote as well. Alot of the juries may not get it but at the same time some may get on board. They may end up picking up quite a few 6/7/8's I'd imagine. We will shall, should be quite an exciting night as its still quite open IMO, I guess the drawer tomorrow may well sway it.

Does anyone know if the drawer is tonight for the 1st Semi's? I am sure the last few years it has been? Really enjoyed tonight, my family were all laughing at Russia, it really wouldn't surprise me if they won actually but top 5 is a certainty. As always, I think the winner will be determined by the drawer. If Sweden get an early drawer and one of the other favs like Romania/Russia etc get a late drawer it could be a big battle.

Interesting thread but one quick query. How can you put Hanson at #1 on 31.5.97 and Elton John 13.9.97 when they weren't even out for release in those respective weeks.

I quite the new Jubilee song, though quite surprised Gary Barlow doesn't sing on it. It wouldn't surprise me if it did reach the top though, seems quite a dead week on releases (apart from Alexandra but she won't hit #1). Is the Voice winner releasing a winner single? If so, that could reach the top in early June. I'd say Cheryl is a certain chart topper. I wouldn't rule out Whistle by Flo Rida either, its already been #1 in NZ and Australia and is currently #1 on itunes in Germany, Switzerland and Austria, its gonna be big IMO.

I also wonder if Titanium could also get there eventually? It is bound to continue selling throughout the year and will likely be used in The Voice, X factor etc at some point as well. It may not do it this year but then it only needs to sell another 10k each week until the end of the year (a tall order but it'll likely sell more than that for the next few months). I always find it a shame that songs from the mid noughties will never have their true potential ever known (if thats the right saying). Songs like Hips Don't Lie, Umbrella, Chasing Cars etc would have all likely sold a million by now had they released in todays climate. I guess it is something we will never know though. Oh and Carly is pretty certain to reach the million mark at some point I'd imagine (as long as it doesnt drop off too quick). Quite a few of my mates HATE that sort of music yet like CMM which surprised me earlier today.

Does anyone know how the lives work? Each team has 5 members but surely they won't all perform next week? I presume they get split up somehow?

Oh that's interesting but then it is the weekend now so may be that is having an effect? It actually wouldn't surprise me if Call Me Maybe ended up in the year end top 10 to be honest. I also wouldn't be shocked if its sales have held up well and that it potentially stops Conor next week either. I do hope you're right about fun getting to #1 but I think we are a few weeks off that considering its barely had any TV/radio play yet (top 50 wise anyway).

Its now #12 on itunes :dance: Its actually very good IMO, in Australia it is slightly different to here because no song is usually held back for long. I can't even remember the last time a song got THAT high in its first day in the last year or so over there (apart from the X Factor winner or may be Lady Gaga last year). She has the Voice and Logie performance at the weekend. I think she should get to #2 fairly easy, just a case of catching up to Carly which still has a HUGE lead.

I have thought the same actually, it wouldn't surprise me if he got another #2 :rolleyes: I don't think no video will help him either, unless he releases it in the next week or so.

Great that Fun is out now but unless it gets a decent lead this week then I can't see it going to #1 at the moment (its not on the feed either?). Next week Conor is out (according to his twitter like Manic said), then it'll be Calvin/Ne-Yo, Tulisa (now out the 30th April according to her label), then it'll be Rita Ora etc. I can unfortunately see it getting stuck but you never know, something I've mentioned might not as a big etc.

Whilst I completely agree that songs get held back far too long and it does effect things, I now don't think T.H.E, Rockstar would have been #1s anyway. Of course most of the songs I've mentioned will likely be extremely front loaded, I can see Rita Ora going 100k + week one. I think Tulisa will do very well as well (you only need to see her youtube views so far). Plus some songs have been held back 6-8 weeks and still got to #1 (i.e. Hot Right now) which I heard back in December!

Anyone else rather surprised that Fun's label didn't rush release We Are Young? That fake version is getting quite high. While it has every chance of getting to #1 still, I can't but think that it may turn out to be the next MLJ. This week it will be Carly or Justin at #1, then I can see one weekers from Conor Maynard, Calvin/Ne-Yo, Tulisa (now out 30th apparently), Rita Ora etc. Then the new Wanted song is out at the end of May. It wouldn't surprise me if it gets stuck to be honest if its released early <_<

This may have been noticed already but the fake versions of Fun (We are Young) have been deleted again. Just don't understand why the label just doesn't release it. Other fake versions will begin climbing again in the coming days.

Shaky, do you have Titanium's chart run so far? Its remarkable how well its held up and it didn't even reach the top. Having said that, I am almost certain that if it hadn't have been a hit during the Autumn it would have been #1 early 2012 like the UK

No I think the last Canadian female was Nelly Furtado (Maneater?)

Carly is now #1 :dance:

Great thread, thoroughly enjoying it but haven't you missed A1 (Caught in the middle?) I remember being gutted that Shakira was released the same week as Will. A week earlier and Shakira would have probably been #1!

8th Apr Carly Rae Jepsen - Call Me Maybe (Unless something happens I fully expect this to be #1) 15th Apr Carly Rae Jepsen - Call Me Maybe 22nd Apr Conor Maynard - Can't Say No (Apparently its now released on the 16th not 30th? I don't itunes has changed the date yet) 29th Apr Calvin Harris / Ne-yo - Let's Go (Surprised not many people have predicted this one. Its kinds generic but think it will be big, especially if the video comes out in the next 2 weeks) 6th May fun. ft. Janelle Monae - We Are Young (I suspect the label will bring this forward and can see it climbing to #1 around this week like 5-2-1) 13th May Rita Ora ft. Tinie Tempah - R.I.P. OR Tulisa. (Can't decide at the moment and it wouldn't surprise me if RIP is brought forward) 20th May fun. ft. Janelle Monae - We Are Young (climbs back to #1) 27th May fun. ft. Janelle Monae - We Are Young Sadly, I think Starships has had its chance, it will certainly reclimb/peak but I can't see it. Never say never though.