Everything posted by Piers
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Spice Girls - 'Forever'
Though. I say all that while still thinking they may be a bit unlikely to release that much material at once. Part of me thinks they're more aware of the demand for their unreleased material than they sometimes let on...and there's a plan to stagger out releases for the rest of their lives.
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Spice Girls - 'Forever'
I realize Biff somewhat implied some of his unused material for Forever might be on an anniversary release of the album. But I'm not sure if that's the best use of the unreleased songs. This will probably be unpopular, but I honestly would question the need for a Forever25. And that's not a critique of the album (which I like just fine). Spice and Spiceworld were definitive pop albums that helped define what music was in 1996-1998. Forever was two and a half years of build up only for the group to immediately abandon the project after release. Is there much to commemorate? What I'd kinda prefer for them to do is remaster and release the Biff material and four Kennedy songs...and couple those on a release alongside Goodbye and My Strongest Suit. Basically, take all the four piece material with the original collaborators...and go ahead and release it next year. It'd add up to about ten tracks. Why go this route? My guess is marketing "the lost Spice Girls album/the album that could have been" would generate more buzz than pairing the material with an album that is so synonymous with the fall of the group. Sidestep the negativity that comes with that era. Let the unreleased stuff stand on its own.
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Spice Girls • All Released Songs, Rarities and Demos Lists
I guess we'll never know...but I'm not sure they were necessarily looking for the "best" songs. Here's what I mean. Since they invited Neyo to take part, I think there's an indication they were open to furthering their sound at one time in the creative process. Mel C has also said she liked some of these other songs they recorded...whereas she didn't like Voodoo. My guess is what they ended up picking wasn't necessarily the best, but rather a conscious decision to pick what best recaptured the old sound. But yeah. I definitely agree on the Headlines video. It's such a dud creatively. Considering they got Jamie King as their tour director to make their show the best of the best...their team really should have shown that same level of quality control to the video. Had the video been this big, beautiful thing like Goodbye's...I actually think the song itself would be better regarded today. My memory is the video shoot and the video release weren't far apart, so I guess there just wasn't the production time to make something grand. A last thought on Headlines. Looking back on it nearly 15 years later, I've never stopped liking the song...but I do think there's something of a lyrical missed opportunity. I think the concept of a big love song from the perspective of hugely famous people is actually fairly clever. Like...I love you enough to take you on this tabloid journey with me. But beyond the first three lines of the chorus...the rest of the song isn't really about that. More a standard love song.
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Spice Girls • All Released Songs, Rarities and Demos Lists
Interesting to hear about Get Out Of Your Head and Thank You. With those two tracks, that would mean the girls had at least six new songs they were toying with for the Greatest Hits. Then, beyond that...we know George Michael was working on that Christmas track that didn't meet the deadline (eventually released on his own)...and Neyo was asked to participate in creating some new music (scheduling conflict prevented it). Biff claimed in the David Sinclair book that he had about five old demos he wanted to give to an eventual Greatest Hits project. It makes you wonder how big their team was aiming to make the Greatest Hits project at one time...and how it all got scaled back to just Headlines and Voodoo.
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Spice Girls - 'Spiceworld 25'
The biggest question for me is...how much unreleased material could there really be from this era? They seemingly had no other fresh material to use as b-sides for Stop and Viva Forever...and Spice Invaders is as obvious a "just run into the studio and come up with literally anything" situation as they come for the Spice Up Your Life b-side. Can't Stay Tonight is from this era...but did we ever get confirmation that anyone besides Mel C got around to taking part in a demo? We know Stannard was listening to Likely Stories (See You Next Tuesday) in the lead-up to Spice25. It makes me wonder if they might have held over that song from the Spice recording sessions for Spiceworld25...just for lack of material. I think a song called Dingeling shows up on ASCAP from this era. But I don't think the girls or their producers have ever mentioned it. Mel B's early copy of the Spice Up Your Life single had Strong Enough on it...but I don't think that song's really screaming for an official release. My guess is we'll likely get Walk Of Life and Step To Me...and maybe Sound Off? I guess they could include the studio version of Leader of the Gang, but that calls into question if they want to drudge up the Gary Glitter connection again.
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Melanie C • General Discussion
Let's say we're living in a hypothetical world where everything can get worked out with record companies and Mel could just use whichever songs she wants from her back catalogue. I would definitely be on the side of putting out a Best Of collection over a Greatest Hits. Frankly, I'd do this: 1. When You're Gone 2. Goin Down 3. Northern Star 4. Never Be The Same Again 5. I Turn To You 6. Independence Day 7. Reason 8. Next Best Superstar 9. You'll Get Yours 10. First Day Of My Life 11. Think About It 12. Stupid Game 13. Lovin' You 14. Anymore 15. Who I Am 16. Blame It On Me 17. In and Out of Love 18. New Song I realize that's leaving out a top ten with Here It Comes Again...but does anyone especially like that one? I'd just see a release like this as a chance to showcase her stronger material...ignoring the fact that her single choices were sometimes compromised over the years for this reason or that. Just a "here's what you've been missing" sort of release to accompany the handful of big hits on there. Plus, it's just a good showcase for how versatile she is as an artist.
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Which B Sides should have been album tracks / singles
Good topic! I won't go through every album era, but here's a few off the top of my head. Geri - Summertime (Schizophonic). I wouldn't put it in single consideration out of the Schizophonic material, but at the very least I think it towers over You're In A Bubble. I would slot it somewhere in the latter half of the album and then end Schizophonic with Someone's Watching Over Me. While Geri has stronger songs, I do think Summertime and Goodnight Kiss are the best use of her vocal abilities in this album era. Geri - Getting Better (Scream If You Wanna Go Faster). I feel like no one really ever talks about this song...but to me, there's enough effort put into this that it seems like it was intended for something greater than a b-side. My guess (which isn't based on much) is that this was supposed to accompany the Therapy film she was shopping around at the time. "We need a little therapy, c'mon" Yes? No? Anyway. I think the common wisdom would be to replace either Shake Your Bootie Cutie or Heaven and Hell (Being Geri Halliwell)...but I'll pretty much always take loudly, proudly bizarre over unmemorable. So I'd slot Getting Better on the album in place of either Don't Call Me Baby or Lovey Dovey Stuff. Emma - Invincible. (A Girl Like Me) To me, the production here lacks a certain oomph...but a more rocky, amped-up mix would have actually been single material. I know a different artist actually did release this song as a single around the same time...and it went nowhere. But. With the right artist (Emma) and the right mix (it wasn't that far off), I think this one had the makings of an early 2000s classic. It just sounds to me like something that you'd hear in a commercial for one of the Now compilations. Melanie C - Follow Me (Northern Star). I've always thought this song was gorgeous. Way too good to be left off Northern Star. My guess is she was trying to get a good variety of themes and sounds for the album...and this one was a smidge similar to Closer. But I still would have included it...preferably in place of If That Were Me (Follow Me is superior to that one in every way as far as I'm concerned). I'd even go so far as to say I would have been up for Follow Me as the 5th single off the album...and I like it better than all the singles off Reason, Beautiful Intentions, and This Time (though not all the album tracks in general).
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Spice Girls • General Discussion
Oh, I still remember that super dramatic call from a friend...Geri left the group! We already had tickets to see the girls on the American leg of their tour in July. I liked Geri, though my favorite members were Mel B and Emma...and I already recognized Mel C's importance to the songs (my fandom of her as an individual kicked in with Northern Star). So. Honestly, when I got that call...my bigger concern was that the group would split or cancel their tour. I was definitely taken aback by Geri's leaving. Living in America, I guess the last round of major appearances the group had taken was the Spice World promo around January or so. The girls were showing a united front and Geri was just as united as any of the rest of them. It wasn't until years later that I would see interviews and performances leading up to May 1998 where Geri seemed fairly aloof. In June 1998, MTV aired a clip of the four piece performing the opening show of the tour's American leg...and that did a lot to confirm to me the show would go on. When I finally caught them in July, the show was fab. They seemed as good as ever...and I was game for whatever music this lineup could give us. It wouldn't be until a few years later that I would realize the focus and musical direction that Geri actually brought to the group. Anyway. Obviously, I wish Geri didn't leave when she did. I consider Spiceworld one of the true perfect big fun pop albums...deserving of mention next to Madonna's True Blue, Janet Jackson's Control, and Cyndi Lauper's She's So Unusual. Top to bottom...perfect fun pop records. Had the five piece continued, I think it would have been natural their sales would continue a downslide. The pop landscape was starting to get crowded, and they no longer solely owned a corner of the market. But. Spiceworld is the result of the girls and their collaborators at their creative peak...and I wish we could have seen what else they could have done together. While I mostly like Forever, it's not the product of a united group.
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Victoria Beckham - 'Victoria Beckham' (VB)
This will be an unpopular opinion, but knowing the songs she had available...I still would have picked Not Such An Innocent Girl as the lead single. Do I consider it the best song on the album? No. I think that's I Wish. And Like That is the song I revisit the most off the album. But my general feeling is Like That plays a bit more like a fan favorite...than a guaranteed hit. And I Wish sounds like a second/third single. Not Such An Innocent Girl (to me) just sounds like an album launcher. It's immediately catchy in a way a lead single needs to be...and I think we would have seen it perform very differently if it was released in the first half of 2000...or at least in a year when a barrage of solo Spice releases weren't cancelling out each other's chances of success. I think releasing A Mind Of Its Own as the follow-up was probably a mistake, though. I do actually think the song's single worthy...and I could see a NSAIG - AMOIO - I Wish - IOU singles run making the most sense on paper. But when the album underperformed, they needed to realize that AMOIO wasn't a song that could reverse the project's fortunes. They should have gone for broke at that point and gone with their best bet...I Wish.
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Spice Girls • General Discussion
I kinda hope they're not really saying that behind the scenes. Here's the deal. If I'm not mistaken, none of them (in addition to Biff) have ever said anything good about Voodoo. They also removed the song off the 2007 tour setlist...with Mel B claiming it was because they were struggling with the choreography. If they really did believe in the song and wanted to showcase it, they could have pretty easily changed the choreography. The steps weren't commanded to them by the gods. And it's not like it would have been out of character for them to just wing the performance. So. They clearly didn't feel much more strongly about the song than the fanbase. Song For Her? Wasn't the TV show idea long abandoned by the time its theme song leaked? It's not like they were so proud of this that they were making any efforts to get it heard. Feed Your Love? I don't remember the overall reaction to this being negative, really. It was about right for a pretty good (but fairly low-key) little unreleased song that was part of a somewhat muted rollout. So it really comes down to the Headlines reception. From what we've heard from behind the scenes, the girls and Biff honestly did really like this track at one time. So. Okay. They may have been disappointed with how the fans perceived this one song..........15 years ago.
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Emma & Mel B on Netflix's 'The Circle' (US)
I'm halfway into the second episode. I would never watch this without the two of them involved, buuut....I do have to say Mel and Emma seem to be having a blast and are really funny on it. The set-up of the show plays well to their personalities. They're being forced into challenges...and having to think on their feet...and their scrambling to figure out what to do is actually really cute. I mean, yeah, I'd rather them be recording music or touring...but I do prefer this over another judging gig. For me, it's a better use of their vibe. As for the show, one thought keeps coming back to me. The rest of the cast is fairly young, and it's pretty well established that they...um...er...well. Let's just say I don't think they're going to know much about music from before 10/15 years ago. Are they even going to know who the Spice Girls are? The Spices' US exposure isn't great these days. Wannabe's here and there...Mel B had the stint on Got Talent...and the Beckhams pop up now and then. But. I feel like you kinda have to seek out the Spices a bit these days. So. Beats me how it's all gonna go down on this show...
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Emma & Mel B on Netflix's 'The Circle' (US)
Yeah. I'll admit that my first thought on seeing this trailer's quick glimpses of the two of them was..."wow. They look fab. Wish they were lookin fab in some sort of music project..." The show doesn't look like my sort of thing at all, but I will watch it for the two of them. I do think there's a silver lining to this...and that's having some Spices associated with a juggernaut like Netflix. Could this partnership...maybe...lead to a more interesting project down the road? That's my hope anyway. And I will say I have several friends who are obsessed with this show. It has its following. I do rank this a bit higher than the Coinmaster thing.
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Forthcoming Spice Girls Documentary
Yeah. The subject of how the music industry could make or break an artist at their will has always been an interesting subject to me. To me, the Spices' US career trajectory has a lot in common with Cyndi Lauper's and Paula Abdul's. All three exploded onto the scene with huge first albums with multiple hits. That initial fame seemed to propel them through second album eras. Then...all three had third album eras that were doomed...despite the fact they all carried very commercial material. It just seemed like the promotional machine of MTV/radio had quit on all of them. You could claim the audience moved on. Or was their fate being controlled? I get the Spices' situation with Forever is a complicated one with a few factors at play...but I literally never heard Holler on the radio and MTV definitely didn't give it an inch beyond (a probably contractually required) debut on TRL. Then, TRL turned around and named it the worst video in their history which was absurd. Anyway. It's not that I think a whole doc should be about that angle. But if they did a little multi-part series...maybe the Spice Girls story could be a springboard to look into a few subjects relevant to music in general...the evolution of commercial endorsements, industry reactions to an act being so outwardly pro-woman and pro-LGBT, how the music industry makes or breaks artists, etc.
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Forthcoming Spice Girls Documentary
The documentary idea does have a bit of "least effort possible" feel to it...which is, of course, par for the course with them. However. I do agree with Jay that they need to up their global visibility...and a doc on Netflix honestly would do it. I've been in a few stores lately...checking out all the graphic ts..and it's really striking to me how much more stuff there is for the other 90s pop acts over the Spices. There were shirts for the Backstreet Boys, NSYNC, Britney, Hanson, New Kids On The Block, En Vogue, TLC. Action figures and bobbleheads for most of the same acts. Granted, nearly all of these acts (except Britney and NSYNC) have toured through my city recently...or they're about to. But it's also noticeable that BSB still gets I Want It That Way played in major commercials...like the song never went out of style. If you go to my downtown, the music pouring out of all the bars is NSYNC, Britney, and BSB. By comparison...the Spices just have the Lego thing and these Coinmaster ads...which...don't seem to have been noticed by much of anyone but the fanbase? Point being. Somebody's doing a pretty good job of keeping these other acts' legacies alive. And the ball's getting dropped on the Spices.
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Is M in trouble?
Also. As much as we'd like to think that M's legacy of amazing songs/videos will outlast anything that's happening now...I'm not sure that's quite how history works. Maybe this is overthinking it, but I'll lay it out anyway. I've always found a lot of parallels between Madonna and 1930s film star Mae West. Madonna released the Sex book. West wrote and performed the play, Sex. Both were beautiful women challenging censorship and pushing the limits of society's views on sex. They fought for their art. Both had/have huge gay followings. Both had brains to back it all up. Madonna wrote the majority of her hits. West wrote her films. But what eventually happened with West is she became something of a parody of herself. Her appearance became bizarre. Her films became terrible. She was overtly nasty to up-and-coming actresses. The oddity of her behavior on set and in public became legendary. 40+ years after her death, West's bizarre later years are honestly as famous as her screen legend early years. It might not go the same way for Madonna. But...it could...
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Forthcoming Spice Girls Documentary
I'm admittedly not up on my British newspapers/tabloids...but...is Daily Mail especially reliable? If JJ Abrams was really shopping around a Spice Girls doc to Netflix, I'd kinda think a Hollywood Reporter or Variety might report on it. But. Anyway. For now, let's just pretend there's some truth to this. I'd be a little split on yet another documentary. I feel like Giving You Everything delivered as much as we can honestly expect out of a group so guarded. I feel like the story of them has been told...a lot. So a doc would need to dive into some interesting new territory. To me, one interesting angle of their story that no one's ever tackled is their forced fall from success in the US market. In 1998, they had two albums sitting in the top ten albums chart...and US radio, MTV, and VH1 was basically pretending they didn't exist. Radio/video play was nearly nonexistent for the clear biggest pop act in the country. The thought of any of them having another US hit by 1999 seemed impossible. What happened? My guess has always been that record companies for the homegrown upcoming pop acts knew the Spices were their competition...and worked behind the scenes to remove the threat. Whatever the case may be, there has to be some interesting dynamics in the 90s pop music world to explore there. Furthermore, what was at play in the Grammy's public refusal to nominate them? Their other pop contemporaries of the time got nominations.
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I need details about Victoria & Geri’s relationship
I mean. I've got no inside scoop on what happened...but I never especially thought that Geri's team intentionally copied Victoria's video. Honestly, I figured both teams were probably just inspired by Mariah Carey's Heartbreaker video..which was still somewhat recent at that point...and featured a fight scene between a good Mariah and bad Mariah. The good girl/bad girl thing has always been fairly common in pop videos. The very next year after SIYWGF and NSAIG, a good Madonna was fighting a bad Madonna in the Die Another Day video. Nicole Scherzinger did the good girl/bad girl thing in Poison. Those are just off the top of my head. I'm sure there are a ton more examples. I mean, yeah, there's also the flying bikes thing. But. Geri took pics on a flying bike even in the album photoshoot...which came a good while before the eventual SIYWGF video shoot. So. I dunno. I land on coincidence. Plus, the motorbikes were employed very differently in the videos...and the good girl vs. bad girl thing is far more integrated into Victoria's concept than Geri's. (I'm not sure I was aware the two Geris were even rivals in the Scream video until the final seconds...)
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Is M in trouble?
One last thought. I don't think this is getting much discussion in the world...but I do think Madonna's struggled to sing for several years. Yes, everyone ganged up on her after that Eurovision performance...but the broad perception out there was that she can't sing...or was especially bad that night. The fact is...she was a rather good, disciplined singer for a lot of her career. I think something has genuinely happened to her voice. Whether she'd acknowledge such a thing, I don't know. You could argue her age just naturally changed her voice...making it harder to sing those early songs. But that doesn't explain why she doesn't even attempt her new songs without major distortion to her voice. I guess you could argue that distortion is only for the effect of the songs...but I'm not so sure. The fact vocals from her concert tours and Eurovision performance were doctored to the point of sounding nothing like the original vocals implies her team's aware something's up.
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Is M in trouble?
Just like you, I'm a die-hard fan...and nothing going on right now is going to change that. But yes, her image has been in a bad place for a while now. Some of it should have been avoided. Obviously, she didn't need to take an Aretha Franklin tribute and turn it into a rambling speech about herself. Die-hard fans may understand that she puts on shows hours and hours after the stated start time, but most people attending are just going to view it as poor form. Her takes on COVID were shallow and often bizarre. As for what people perceive as desperate attempts to be young...I tend to be split on that. My feeling is that age shouldn't stop an artist from pursuing a sound that speaks to them. Her defiance at what people think a person her age should say/wear...is, to me, often a strike against ageism...and a stance that's very in line with her character. Buuut. While I'll defend a chunk of Rebel Heart as pretty good...and say that MDNA and Madame X have the occasional good song, her musical quality has unquestionably dropped. Yes, ageism stopped her from getting hits for several deserving songs over the past decade. But, realistically...(except for Crave), nothing off Madame X would be a hit for anyone. So. When you're without the substance of amazing songs, you're kinda left with someone showing up to events just to flash the latest reinvention of her butt. And. I never thought she'd come off as that shallow. I'll never stop being a fan, but she has become her public perception's own worst enemy...and does need something to remind the world how she became such a titan of the industry. A biopic has the potential to do it...but not with her directing.
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What If?....
I'm happy to get anything from any one of them, really...but I'll go in on what I wish we could see in the (unlikely) event the group were to record again. I can't especially imagine Victoria as she is now taking part in music. So. Four piece album. All four must be in the room together for writing sessions. I'd build the writing team out of the girls and Biff...with perhaps a reunion with Cathy Dennis. I'm pretty sure everyone in here knows who that is...but if not, she wrote a ton of hits for a while including Can't Get You Out of My Head and Toxic. She also cowrote Bumper to Bumper with the girls...and she worked with Melanie C and (I think?) wrote My Love Is For Real for Victoria. She hasn't been as present in music for a few years, but this might be the right project to employ her skills. Then, I'd bring in Mark Ronson and Stuart Price as producers. Ronson because he can pull off so many genres of music (something key to the variety of the group)...and Price because the work he's done with Madonna/Kylie/Dua Lipa seems about right for where the girls' sound should be today. After that, I'd just say to create an album that encompasses who they all are now. Some big dance tracks...some throwback 60s sounding stuff...some lush ballads...something a little guitar-y...something a little electronic. An album even more varied than Spice World. Play up the 'All Are Welcome' angle with the promos and videos. People of all backgrounds. All stories. All ages. (maybe even throw in some of the original Spice Boys as dancers alongside the younger ones?...never too old to do what you love). Something like that.
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Netflix limited series on Madonna's life announced
If she were to go the series route, I feel one hour episodes could be the way to go...looking something like this; Episode 1: Beginnings Childhood and impact of mother's death. Establish important relationships (like the dynamics with her father and brother Christopher). Go into what sparked her love of performing. Cover her move to New York...the odd jobs...her Breakfast Club days...the recording of her first album. Episode 2: Breakthrough The ascent to superstardom. First MTV performance. Live Aid and a stadium tour puts her on the global stage as one of the biggest stars on the planet. The volatile Sean Penn romance. Desperately Seeking Susan seems to promise success in film...but the failure of Shanghai Surprise, Who's That Girl, and a stage play show she's not invincible. Episode 3: Controversy Like A Prayer/Pepsi controversy. Blonde Ambition tour met with both praise and heavy criticism. M brings gay culture into a more mainstream place...including the Vogue release. Erotica album. The Sex book. Body of Evidence. A Letterman appearance goes off the rails. She's shattering taboos...but is that causing a backlash? Episode 4: Motherhood An intentional attempt to soften her image after Erotica comes with the release of BedTime Stories. Evita is a new bid for credibility...and is met with some career-best reviews...but is also an Oscar snub. The birth of her daughter brings new perspective to her world. Episode 5: Acceptance Ray of Light brings the best reviews of her career...including Grammy attention. The praise continues with Music. The industry is giving a respect she's never felt before. Drowned World tour is a huge success. Guy Richie relationship seems to bring new level of happiness and stability. And all was well forever...? Episode 6: Ageism Ray of Light/Music did not signal a permanent acceptance by the music industry. Guy Richie was not the one. Her life and career continue ups and downs. Going political with the American Life album campaign is met with division. The hits dry up. Ageism is at work. M does what she always did...refuse to do what people expect of her. So. Maybe I feel like six one-hour episodes could cover it (you can tell I didn't have enough to do this morning).
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Victoria Beckham - Cancelled 2nd Album Discussion
I should reword what I said because...no, I don't think the Damon Dash stuff would have charted well either...though there may have been an interest in what Resentment was about. My thought was more...could My Love Is For Real have gotten her a bit of traction? I just base that on how I remember people reacting to her during that time. A lot of people in the US were talking about the Beckhams...and it was the sort of people who wouldn't know the real names of the other four Spices...and wouldn't even recognize the other four walking down the street. For them...the Beckhams were relationship goals. Victoria's face was all over Times Square. The late night shows talked about them. The fascination was there...even without the Beckhams trying especially hard (there was something of a push for exposure in 2007). Would that have translated into music sales? Maybe not. But I'm thinking if she'd released My Love Is For Real...accompanied with a sexy video featuring David (think the 2007 W magazine shoot in video form)...maybe? She did have Simon Fuller on her side at the time...
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Netflix limited series on Madonna's life announced
If I'm honest, I remain puzzled how she could be working on the script this long and be "tweaking" it...yet still be uncertain if this is a single film or a series. I feel like the format should have been set long before two screenwriters took a crack at it. Does her distributor not have certain expectations? I remain torn on all of this. In all likelihood, I still think her directing is going to end in disaster. With her sensibilities these days, I think she's going to create something overly pretentious with chaotic, hard-to-follow music sections. Hers is a story that belongs on the big screen. But I really wish she were collaborating with a solid, established director. It could be the re-establishing of a grand career. The flip side is...an artist directing their own music autobiography IS an interesting concept...and no matter how it turns out, it won't be dull. With her at the helm, I lean toward her doing a series. I think the world is more forgiving of that format. Plus, if the appeal of this project is to get the major events of a career...through the eyes of the artist...a series is just going to allow her to cover all the important beats. An eight-episode series sounds about right to me. Netflix hopefully...to reach the most eyeballs.
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Mel B - 'Hot'
Hot had a Parental Advisory on it, didn't it? I mean, Mel was a grown woman and had every right to express herself however she wanted...but it probably didn't help her business-wise. Her fanbase was still very young...and a lot of Hot's promotion was happening on kids' shows. I'm not sure if having some fairly adult material was helping from a strictly commercial standpoint...not in 2000, anyway. As for the thought of her delaying the release until 2001, I think anything would have been better than releasing within a month of Forever. But. It still would have been one of five Spice-related albums to be released in the course of a year. I've always wondered if it was more a case of interest in the girls dwindling by 2001...or all of their projects just starting to cancel out each other's success. I feel this is where Virgin should have stepped in. I get that all of the girls were trying to strike while the iron was hot. But it's super messy that five Spice albums would come out from October 2000-October 2001...and absolutely nothing would come out for a year after February 2002. Asking the fanbase (a mostly young one that probably had limited funds...or were asking parents for money in a lot of cases) to buy five albums from the same camp in a year was kinda...nuts. My feeling is they should have coordinated things enough to where it was two albums tops in the span of a year. Moral of the story. There was A LOT working against Hot.
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Victoria Beckham - Cancelled 2nd Album Discussion
I know I just said 'last thought'. But here's another last thought. Though it defies logic from a music quality standpoint, I do get her thinking on going solely with the Damon Dash material if her sole intent was to break the US. And I might get some debate on this, but my interpretation is that with a decent song, Victoria would have the best chance of the five girls to make an impact on the US charts...AND a better chance at chart success than even a Spice Girls comeback would have had by the early 2000s. The Spices were perceived as yesterday's news by that point, but there was a very real fascination with the Beckhams. Victoria definitely wasn't viewed as an annoyance in the way the British tabloids were playing her. She and David were seen as a beautiful power couple...and I do think around 2001-2007, she could have struck and capitalized on it. Could any of the Damon Dash material have taken her there? My thought is This Groove was too subtle to launch her in a new market. Resentment might have played out okay as a follow-up single to something. Going outside the Dash stuff, I think My Love Is For Real might have stood a chance at getting a respectable spot on a chart.