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    Isn't this her last album under her contract with Dr. Luke's label or something? I can see why the label might not want to draw attention to it in that case given the subject matter lol (if anything it's a little surprising they didn't pull some BS to block her from releasing it at all)

    Taylor is somewhat similar to Beyoncé for me in having a lot of stuff I both love and hate, I'd say I'm a bit more of a 'fan' of Taylor overall as she has delivered 3 very strong albums ('1989', 'folklore' and 'evermore') and I do like the majority of 'Lover' and 'Midnights' too, but I'm not sure that I'd have ranked her that highly as she's delivered a few too many unbearable moments, mostly earlier on in her career but still occasionally to this day #certifiedkarmahater.

     

    I am a bit surprised she's not in the top 5 as well though!

    Asake landing most of his album tracks on Apple Music (although like his previous album and the recent Davido album I doubt it'll do much on Spotify):

     

    45 (up 75) Amapiano (w/ Olamide)

    72 Basquiat

    92 (re-entry) 2:30

    95 Olorun

    115 Awodi

    123 Sunshine

    135 Mogbe

    157 What's Up My G

    181 I Believe

    197 Introduction

     

    Relatively minimal impact for Gunna's album though, definitely expected it to do a bit better than this! (I've just seen earlier that we have a Young Thug album coming next week as well though, with him still being in jail for the foreseeable future I am sure that should do quite well)

     

    141 back at it

    171 back to the moon

     

    Tom Grennan has 'How Does It Feel' up 6 to #19 and 'Here' re-entering at #136, no new album tracks charting.

    Sigur Rós' physicals don't come out until September it seems so guessing they probably won't chart this week but hopefully will do in 3 months' time :magic: great to finally have new music from them as a group anyway (although Jónsi has stayed prolific with other projects in the last few years), exactly a decade (give or take 1 day) since their last album!

     

    Hopefully Ben Howard can get top 5 again although definitely expecting a top 2 of Tom Grennan and QOTSA.

     

    That King Gizzard & The Lizard Wizard album title :cheeseblock:

    It's gone recurrent - the general rule is that songs go recurrent after 20 weeks if they're outside the top 50 or after 52 weeks if they're outside the top 25 (but exceptions are made when songs are still gaining on radio). This is the first week it would have been outside the top 25 since it passed 52 weeks.

    I've seen rumours on Reddit of there being some kind of Drake drop again tonight (possibly an EP, also saw a separate rumour that there's a Central Cee/Drake collab coming soon). So far doesn't look like there's any sign of that but I guess it could show up at 5am. Just what BuzzJack wants to see if true x

     

    There is a new Gunna album confirmed coming though, intrigued to see how that'll do following the whole YSL arrest / 'snitching' debacle.

    It was such an incredible achievement that ABBA managed that new top 10 hit in the streaming era. Kylie is still so young compared to them.

     

    Is Frida not a credited vocalist on that? I can hear her vocals on the chorus.

     

    I wasn't sure about that but Google just said Agnetha performed 'lead vocals', and there was a link to a list of all ABBA songs with who does vocals on them which only listed Agnetha - although looking it up again I found another source that says all 4 members have vocals on it. (I clearly don't remember what it sounded like well enough for that to not ring any bells :lol:)

    The OCC actually changed the instant grat rules specifically to allow Bowie to chart - instant grats were completely ineligible until that point, after that they allowed 1 per album (and they obviously must have quietly dropped the rule entirely at some point during the streaming era).

     

    But yes, that is indeed another asterisk I should have mentioned.

     

    Super interesting read though!! It is crazy how male heavy that list is though - it is basically all males apart from Whitney which is an old sample and Olga Merediz who is a feature on a dance track.

     

    And Agnetha. (ABBA have male members too obvz but only female vocals on that song)

    also: the last top 10 solo hit by a female artist aged 45+ was actually not 'Million Dollar Bill' - it was Susan Boyle's 'Wild Horses' (she was 48) :D 'Celebration' was indeed the last top 10 solo hit by a female artist aged 50+, but the 'female' qualifier almost feels like selling Kylie's potential achievement a bit short considering there have only been two male artists who've done it since then (David Bowie in 2013 and Rik Mayall posthumously in 2014).

    I think this is a complete list of new top 10 hits from 2010-present which had at least one credited vocalist aged 45+ at the time of the song's release* (might be a year out with some of the ages, having to do a bit of mental maths here):

     

    Michael Jackson and Akon - Hold My Hand (Michael Jackson, would have been 52)

    Dr. Dre - I Need A Doctor (feat. Eminem and Skylar Grey) (Dr. Dre, 46)

    will.i.am - T.H.E (The Hardest Ever) (feat. Mick Jagger and Jennifer Lopez) (Mick Jagger, 68)

    Public Enemy - Harder Than You Think (Flavor Flav, 48 / Chuck D, 47) {released in 2007, charted in 2012}

    David Bowie - Where Are We Now? (66)

    Macklemore & Ryan Lewis - Thrift Shop (feat. Wanz) (Wanz, 50)

    Lady Gaga - Do What U Want (feat. R. Kelly) (R. Kelly, 46)

    Michael Jackson and Justin Timberlake - Love Never Felt So Good (Michael Jackson, would have been 55)

    Rik Mayall - Noble England (52) {released in 2010, charted posthumously in 2014}

    Waze & Odyssey vs. R. Kelly - Bump & Grind 2014 (R. Kelly, 47)

    The Wealdstone Raider - Got No Fans (48)

    Rihanna, Kanye West and Paul McCartney - FourFiveSeconds (Paul McCartney, 72) {Paul did have some very minimal vocals on this so I'll include it}

    Eminem - Walk On Water (feat. Beyoncé) (Eminem, 45)

    Rak-Su - Dimelo (feat. Wyclef Jean and Naughty Boy) (Wyclef Jean, 48)

    Eminem - River (feat. Ed Sheeran) (Eminem, 45)

    Drake - Don't Matter To Me (feat. Michael Jackson) (Michael Jackson, would have been 59)

    Eminem - The Ringer (45)

    Eminem - Lucky You (feat. Joyner Lucas) (Eminem, 45)

    Eminem - Fall (45)

    Kygo and Whitney Houston - Higher Love (Whitney Houston, would have been 55)

    Eminem - Godzilla (feat. Juice WRLD) (Eminem, 47)

    Michael Ball, Tom Moore and The NHS Voices Of Care Choir - You'll Never Walk Alone (Tom Moore, 99 / Michael Ball, 57)

    Pop Smoke - The Woo (feat. 50 Cent and Roddy Ricch) (50 Cent, 45)

    The Kunts - Boris Johnson Is A Fucking Cunt (Kunt, 47)

    Drake - Lemon Pepper Freestyle (feat. Rick Ross) (Rick Ross, 45)

    ABBA - Don't Shut Me Down (Agnetha Fältskog, 71)

    Elton John and Dua Lipa - Cold Heart (PNAU Remix) (Elton John, 74)

    Ed Sheeran and Elton John - Merry Christmas (Elton John, 74)

    LadBaby - Sausage Rolls For Everyone (feat. Ed Sheeran and Elton John) (Elton John, 74)

    The Kunts - Boris Johnson Is STILL A Fucking Cunt (Kunt, 48)

    Stephanie Beatriz and Olga Merediz - The Family Madrigal (Olga Merediz, 65)

    Luude - Down Under (feat. Colin Hay) (Colin Hay, 68)

    Calvin Harris, Justin Timberlake, Halsey and Pharrell Williams - Stay With Me (Pharrell Williams, 49)

    Elton John and Britney Spears - Hold Me Closer (Elton John, 75)

    The Kunts - Fuck The Tories (Kunt, 49)

    The Krown Jewelz - Scrap The Monarchy (Kunt, 49/50)

     

    Plus various one-off charity collectives that had at least one member aged 45+ (Helping Haiti, The X Factor Finalists 2010, The X Factor Finalists 2011, The Justice Collective, Gareth Malone's All Star Choir, Band Aid 30, Artists For Grenfell, Live Lounge Allstars, BBC Radio 2 Allstars). And presumably also Military Wives (2 top 10 hits) and The Lewisham And Greenwich NHS Choir.

     

    *this was a somewhat specifically contrived definition to exclude things like Christmas songs re-entering and old songs boosted to the chart for various other reasons (Facebook campaigns, talent show performances etc.), both songs reaching the top 10 for the first time and those re-entering (e.g. Tina Turner - The Best was already a top 10 hit for a 45+ year old artist on its original run let alone its 2010 re-entry) but even then, The Wizard Of Oz Cast - Ding-Dong! The Witch Is Dead would technically count for this list too, as Billie Burke would have been ~55 at the time it was recorded. But I still thought that would be a bit silly to include as anything more than a footnote

     

    The majority are collaborations with younger artists, and in most cases it's fair to assume the younger artist was more responsible for the song's charting. These are the ones which have only 45+ year old credited vocalists:

     

    Public Enemy - Harder Than You Think (Flavor Flav, 48 / Chuck D, 47) {released in 2007, charted in 2012}

    David Bowie - Where Are We Now? (66)

    Rik Mayall - Noble England (52) {released in 2010, charted posthumously in 2014}

    Waze & Odyssey vs. R. Kelly - Bump & Grind 2014 (R. Kelly, 47)

    The Wealdstone Raider - Got No Fans (48)

    Eminem - The Ringer (45)

    Eminem - Fall (45)

    Kygo and Whitney Houston - Higher Love (Whitney Houston, would have been 55)

    Michael Ball, Tom Moore and The NHS Voices Of Care Choir - You'll Never Walk Alone (Tom Moore, 99 / Michael Ball, 57) {give or take choir members}

    The Kunts - Boris Johnson Is A Fucking Cunt (Kunt, 47)

    ABBA - Don't Shut Me Down (Agnetha Fältskog, 71)

    The Kunts - Boris Johnson Is STILL A Fucking Cunt (Kunt, 48)

    Luude - Down Under (feat. Colin Hay) (Colin Hay, 68)

    The Kunts - Fuck The Tories (Kunt, 49)

    The Krown Jewelz - Scrap The Monarchy (Kunt, 49/50)

     

    Even then it's hard to say many if any of these are really comparable to 'Padam Padam' potentially becoming a genuine 'normal' top 10 hit without any gimmicks that just happens to be by an older artist - Public Enemy charted from being used heavily in Paralympics coverage, Rik Mayall was a posthumous tribute, Waze & Odyssey/Kygo/Luude were remakes of older hits/recordings that just credited the original vocalists, The Wealdstone Raider and The Kunts/The Krown Jewelz were short lived novelty campaigns, the two Eminem songs both charted as part of an album bomb (one of them was never a single), Michael Ball/Tom Moore was a charity single. ...and that just leaves David Bowie and ABBA, which were both comeback singles from their first albums in 10 and 40 years respectively!

     

    (did I spend too much time making this post? Yes. But I hope at least some people read it and find it interesting ddd)

    Oh lord what have I started x

     

    There is a reason I said closest to 'Believe', not saying it is or is likely to be exactly as big as that, just that there aren't really any better examples of a similar type of thing happening in the streaming era. Elton John was probably the previous closest but his hits being collabs with big contemporary artists does dilute that a bit, not that it's not still notable.

    Poor brave Tracy Chapman now not having the highest charting version of 'Fast Car' in either the UK or the US... I wonder if that's a unique situation where an original song was a top 10 hit in both countries but eventually outpeaked by a different cover in each.

     

    Spiderman soundtrack delivering new Hot 100 hits for both James Blake and J.I.D though we love to see *.* (their 3rd and 6th respectively I think)

    Hope 'Satellite' can get a new peak this week after this latest tour surge (and would be nice if the chart show actually plays it this time x).

     

    I think people are being a bit overconfident about Kylie's top 10 chances now, she's trending in the right direction for now but no guarantee that's going to continue (and it will probably need to continue, as she's still looking set to fall this week even after these gains, unless cassette sales save her if they're lumped on this week). Agreed that her chances are getting better and better by the day with these very strong Spotify updates and it's maybe more likely than not now but I still think it's pretty far from 'definite'.

     

    If it does just keep getting bigger and bigger though... I guess this is the closest thing we've had to a streaming era equivalent of a 'Believe' style late career renaissance?

    I know we already played it recently as a Burt Bacharach tribute (and no one else has mentioned it so fair if it doesn't get played again x) but 'Twenty Four Hours From Tulsa' is my favourite of the (still very few) songs I recognise from this list.

     

    I'll give another vote to 'Be My Baby' and 'I Only Want To Be With You' too (and 'I Just Don't Know What To Do With Myself' as well if we don't mind playing 2 Dusty songs).

    Ooh this is a fun idea x I think I remember reading discussion about this at the time so I guess I must have been lurking for a few months before I actually made an account here.

     

    Think my fave at the time was actually Alesha lol but Britney is comfortably my fave of them now (although I still have a soft spot for the Alesha song as a bit of naff fun, and I like the Leona song too). Beyoncé was and is the worst. The Xtina song is just kind of mid and forgettable but not her worst.