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I think 100k first week and 700k total. (Adelle will hold on the no1 album for a while appearenty) Looks like it is a shared opinion! ;)

Appearently they are all TT fans rather than Rob's... I'm actually 'giving away' 2 tickets (I wasn't going solo!) but it looks like I will earn more than 100 xtra pounds after all. Next time I should buy more! :lol: :lol: :lol: (I am feeling a little guilty tbh) My first thought was buying tickets for San Siro but I am happy now I did't. I am not sure whether San Siro is sold out or not.

Both groups are poor imo... it will take some effort to find 3 songs I can even listen to...

It is definitely way better than what I've expected! The concept is ok but not what I would have expected The dancing part is still disgusting but as a whole it is an interesting video. I am probably the only one here who knows what this is, but to me it looks like 'starcraft: wings of liberty' with 'pirates of the caribean' costumes. I don't know if it could still help the song though... it only has 304 views and the song has been played for ages... P.S: Howard must be dressed in roman armor. Jason is the most fitting one, still when I saw Robbie on the bike :lol: I would definitely spare a coin or two! oh and Kath, would it be of any surprise to you if I told you people are actually paying x2+ for the tickets?

Well it would be suitable for a parade theme... :lol: You should laugh. I bet a lot of people will !!! Is there any TT video that has been any good? I think all of them are boring to death and forgettable. Even at the original line-up they were uttrerly embarassing! I hoe the video will change my mind :( A tour theme? Newton meets Harley Davidson and the ruged Dj outside a 'mental health centre'! (that's the kindest thing I can say) :arrr: :lol: B) I will make a lot of money from selling my Progress Tour tickets so I am not disappointed at all!

I doubt they even know how a university looks from the inside! You are right about the sales though. After the reunion TT actually seem to have about 3 million people who would buy their music and slowly but constantly this base has decreased to 2 million over the last few years. The album is progressive but non-fans don't have ears for a hugely succesful act which is marked with a different music style. They definitely cannot reintroduce themselves as 'the English'. (even more after this performance!)

Radio play doen't help that much nowadays. There is no promo at all for Kidz and the Brits performance didn't do the song justice... It looks like there is not much interest in TT anymore. I don't think it will miss the top20 but right now it is definitely slipping down the itunes chart.

Have I missed something? I think people here WORSHIP The Beatles! (common for chart-people since Beatles hold so many stunning records) Does this have to do anthing with Kidz? (it definitely doesn't sound Beatlesque to me :lol: )

Yes but Fearless was Taylor's 2nd album (about same time with TF-TFM) and Speak Now is her 3rd one (I was about to compare this one with BTW). Fearless should be already 6xplat if not even more... (with Speak Now easily 3xplat already I think). It would be definitely hard for Gaga to follow. I have to agree it *could* be nice promo to dicuss about the million, still with 2 singles out and all this promo lined up (including the superheavy online promo) it would be difficult to miss the BTW release date anyway. :lol: To be honest I don't think Gaga could sell a millionl that fast (TS is definitely much more album seller than single's) but she could have spectacular first week sales nevertheless. I believe Gaga will sell faster than The Fame, yet because she is so dependent on singles, videos and promo, she will sell slower than TS (still managing a huge total after a whole year)

1 million first week? It is too soon to make such a prediction. I remember Taylor Swift did that 1million-sales-week recently. However Taylor has been selling more albums than Gaga throughout TF or TFM era (right?) and she just did it, I therefore believe it is unlikely. BTW has not been that warmly received in the UK , but I think she could still do 200k. It will depend on the next single as well (it should be getting lot of airplay at the week of her album release).

Leave Taylor alone :angry: She is great at what she does. I don't see the point in Adelle vs Taylor really! Did you expect Taylor Swift to write the Bohemian Rhapsody to give her any credit? :lol: Adelle and Taylor are different singers, different styles, and write different songs. Any statement like Adelle's writing brilliant songs while Taylor is cheap is STUPID! Do you have any argument to support that really? Adelle is doing great but don't get mad for Christ's sake! P.s. Gaga's Cult? Not really!!! Although she is the fame monster she could be what is most mainstream in worldwide music at the moment! TV, internet, radio, magazines... she's all over the media, there is no Gaga cult. It is not as if they are acolytes in hidding! :lol: :rolleyes:

Adelle :o :o :o

I won't take it the wrong way. He is not a bad person.. but he is Robbie. He is the star, he's got the charisma and the ego as well. I don't think he could ever stand to be benched! Even though he likes the TT project, it is like a voice inside his head keeps whispering 'step up'. He said nothing at the awards ceremony so that the rest (who were trully pleased and speechless like they usually are) wouldn't feel he is trying to lead or play the charismatic one, but it somehow looks inevitable to me too. The TT project was worked out admirably well so far though. (thats because they really like each other now, it is still difficult to squeeze them into one act nevertheless)

Thats not the subject here, but they were already top ten before the performance and the new single is released next week. Don't tell me you'll be shocked if it goes straight to no2! :lol: Imo no1 album is set to Adelle for the time being. I think she could do 100k-ish! And if the live version keeps climbing she could actually hit no1 in the singles chart. (still it is *just* possible, Gaga could sell 100k+, not easy to beat in 4days)

I am starting to believe all these are just rumors so that the fans do not forget Leona has an album on board due to release god knows when... I think they've simply put to much thought on it... If people like it they will buy it. Is it guaranteed that if they wait another year they will find *more worthy* songs? She is a big artist of a big label will all available tools in their hands... It is not as if they are waiting for Leona to write the songs and music on her own from her lifetime experience! (if they do have sb who could right a big song for her, he probably has already done so) I am tired of waiting :angry:

Relax! Albums are always more important than singles and Adelle is doing well beyond anyones expectations with album sales! TT have not gained enough momentum with Kidz and Brits to give her a run yet so she could spend a *few* more weeks at no1. Her album sales are even more massive considering it is February! She is definitely getting all the credit she deserves! ;)

YES. I wish the 5 of them would let go of the old fashined 'mirror' dance routines and and would sing with passion and energy instead (Mark carrying a flag and jumping up and down was cool but not enough) because that's what the song is about. The dance routines are for the dancers, and there were lot of them. I wasn't completely satisfyied with the singing either to tell the truth. (it must have been live) I think I prefer the live of the Flood over this: 2 big voices singing what they are comfortable with. Kidz was more like a big voice out of its comfort zone and ... well a person that could barely sing (no surprise really). And these dance routines... :nocheer: (when they did the disharming thing I was like 'god NO' :drama: :rofl: ) P.S. Robbie looked like he was possesed! He didn't sing a word, he didn't say much for the award (that was cool and kind), and he was somehow not fitting with the show. The rest 4 looked satisfied with the performance and enjoyed themselves and the award at least...

What do you think of last night's performance? I have to admit it was not as good as I had expected... I still LOVE the song though!

I second that :P Rolling in the Deep should have been no1 instead, and this week it should be BTW

There is not a chance Adele gets to no1 this week. Gaga is selling too strong and Adelle would have to double-sell her for the rest of the week. Still Adelle's performance was very good. It is an average song really but her performance made it special. She could be top5 by Thursday-Friday and could end up no3 on Saturday! <<That said, Cheryl (and Take That) have had #1s in Europe, but I guess in othere countries they're selling solely due to their music, as they don't have the media profiling them. >> That's true, but what is also true is that TT is a slightly successfull group in Europe and Cheryl has only had one hit song and nobody really cares about her. I don't see how this makes either act a global superstar. No matter how much I love the album, Progress has not been a great seller (and appearently is not going to become one) outside UK and Ireland (and perhaps a bit of Germany because of Robbie). They are phenomenal in the UK and just ok in Europe (considering they had Robbie on board this time which kind of created more expectations). Cheryl is a UK only act. fullstop.

Vevo? Never heard of it? :o Accounts in utube where offical videos are posted (and therefore not removed for copyright infingement). Robbie didn't have any official accounts till now (I think) on utube. Vevo started as an American trend, but looks like every act has one now. Take That have a vevo too! :lol:

Breathtaking news, Robbie has a vevo! (since mid of Jan 2011) That's good. At last a place where Rob's videos posted won't be taken down. I'd love to see which will now become more popular among them... (it should be Feel on a WW scale)

Well THAT's sth I've never been told before :o :blink: :blink: :blink: (signs out to do a brain-push up) :lol:

Do you see a) the left half front of a male body (left shoulder, chest and neck) or B) the whole back (2 shoulder blades, a strange shadow )or © the whole front (full chest and a shadow of what could be Adam's apple)? Either way where is the head? If (a) it is obviously headless and if (B) the blades should lead to the back of the neck which is also symetric and starts above end of the shoulderblades whereas in the picture there is only a strange shadow BEFORE the shoulderblades end, and if © the neck is stuffed into the chest like Quasimodo :wacko: none of them is that ugly :blink:

Well, the flood artwork was a picture of a shiny landscape/sky after the storm (the so-called epic flood) having to do with: hope--> effort ---> triumph. This one is 'the new face of the world'. Probably more of a modern Flood or catastrophe. I can see the sun rising behind a destroyed world (desert? fire?global warming?whatever...) The red sky is usually supposed to depict war, violence, blood the previous or the following day. I believe that's the case here. The coming of a new day when war (of the Kidz) takes/has taken place against the forces that have rendered the world a terrible place to be (desert?). From that point of view it is a 'modern' Flood once again, same pattern. I absolutelly love the artisitic touch of the Progress era! Definitely 100 times better (and more compete) than any other TT artwork. :dance: (I have to admit I liked the concept of the Circus album artwork as well, but it just didn't fit with the singles or the content, I don't think it was a 'Circus' album after all :wacko: ) <<Shoulders and moving down to the head>> :o :o Which way? The higer part is the neck, next to it the shoulder blade, and lower is the chest? Where is the head? :huh: I don't get it...