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1)Recovery had a lucky no1 streak imo. There were a lot of no1's (and not only) who sold much more than Recovery did. (if we count out the first week). Also considering the album stalled at 2xplat I don't feel it is hugely remarkable either way. 2)I have to agree about Xtina, she is a shocking flop. (never expected her to do good, but this was terrible) 3)Although people here have predicted this would happen, Joe flopping is another highlight of the year imo. 4)TT are a highlight (together with a lot of drama with Shame!) but everyone knew they would rule the charts so it is not fresh news anymore. 5)MJ's album. We don't yet know how this will perform in the charts but I feel it will be 'special' if it suddenly does much less than what people expect.

I can only guess Mariah would be the most suitable for the final with her x-mas songs. And TT with all that hype around them could be a choice here (remember Robbie was on XF twice last year). What about Kesha's we R who we R? Will it be released in time for that or is it just out of the question?

I believe TT have not made any decent FULL (as a whole) album till Progress, but they definitely have some decent songs to date such as Never Forget, Back For Good, Everything Changes, Rule the World (+some great tours and live performances that are becoming rare with all studio acts nowadays). But then again this guy is the typical TT hater. I know a lot of guys like that who feel they have always been gayish-thrash, no charisma, teenage light pop and then bland love balads. This has some shards of truth in it, but musically they have produced some good songs. Don't expect people from music industry to fully respect them though, sometimes they get too selfrighteous just to make an impression.

Trust me they WANT him to act like this, he is the star-entertainer of the group. Look at them, they are having fun, I don't believe anyone of them is really jealous. (remember Gary used to be 70% of TT for a long long time and everyone but Rob was ok with it). Robbie stealing the show will tire them up with time I guess, but especially outside the UK-Ireland they are just glad to have him on board again. Robbie has multiplatinum albums and hit songs there and his reputation is a good start. They wouldn't want the dozens of Robbie fans who were on that show to start yelling at them. (I could hear Robbie-Robbie on lots of their EU TV appearences ;) ). They knew it from the start and they look ok with it, I really don't see any kind of trouble so far, it is all working just fine: 1)Robbie did his Rudebox part2=lightbox :lol: + it was greatly received this time 2)Gary has sb with fresh ideas and a wide worldwide appeal on the band + sb charesmatic at stage at last 3)Robbie also has his friends back together and leaves all the plotting-scheduling-promo for Gary as we all now he is SO LAZY when he is solo. 4)The rest 3 are (especially Mark) are getting more involved in the music. 5)They all are super-popular and make a lot of money again. I still DO NOT believe it will last for years but for the time being the reunion is fresh and successful and the 5 are drenched to the skin into success. ;) (notice how triumphant they sing ''now they'll never dance again'' shaking fists :lol: B) )

(I just copy my post from general chart dicussion) No way they could battle with Taylor Swift... She has sold slightly more than 1million in the US alone on her first week. I would also like to see how on earth mediatraffic breaks down 1million WW sales (it could actually refer to shipments instead) for Progress (first week). It CAN't have sold more than 50K Germany 30K Italy 30K France----> 200K max whole EU + 100K for the rest WW =800K max I actually believe it has sold roughly 520K UK +200K outside = WW less than 750K.... Look at where Progress charted last week outside the UK, let's not be delusional. Selling 500K outside the UK would require no1's ALL over the world! As much as I would love them to be the best selling act they are most definitelly not! Taylor's Speak Now must have sold at least 1.3millions first week. They must be also behind Eminem's first week at no3 if I am not forgetting anyone else.

No way they could battle with Taylor Swift... She has sold slightly more than 1million in the US alone on her first week. I would also like to see how on earth mediatraffic breaks down 1million WW sales for Progress (first week). It CAN't have sold more than 50K Germany 30K Italy 30K France----> 200K max whole EU + 100K for the rest WW =800K max I actually believe it has sold roughly 520K UK +200K outside = WW less than 750K....

Watch this one instead! It includes the interview! GOD it is so annoying when hosts of big TV shows do not speak english... :blush: Even with the translation they could barely communicate. Poor Robbie they translated he is gay rather than having fan with the rest 4! :kink: Howard and Jason do never speak! :lol:

It is something between do you mind and handsome man imo... And it is lyrically superior to WDYWFM. It is the electro-rockstar thing Robbie would write. I don't like the 'when the boy...' part but I love the rest of it. It is one of my favourites from Progress. The beast-man thing is EPIC (I think I will crop it and use it as a ringtone B) but people in my workplace won't apreciate it that much... so I am having second thoughts :lol: :lol: :lol: )

I cannot choose, this poll will definitely flop! :lol: :drama: :lame:

It is not a no brainer imo... The album has a lot of songs that would qualify as singles, but I guess Kidz is the best choice. It is not much of a christmas tune though... I am not sure it is the best timing if it is to be released late December-January..

On the album chart we have sales: 8 Cheryl Cole 41,346 14 Russell Watson 23,273 Robbie was no11, he was higher but slipped down at the end of the week... I believe he must have sold about 30K this week.

It was closer to xmas then, wasn't it? I believe Progress could sell 400K this week. (it will definitely sell 300K+ IMO and wipe the floor with all competition this week) As long as they are promoting album sales & single sales will be high.

They will do even more ;) (considering the special price too)

It won't last! But after some promo the album could become a hit! It has quality songs in it, it is just that people in EU don't know much of TT (it only sells on the back of Robbie's name now) they need to be (re)introduced to the European public. Also TT are slowly gaining on JLS and Ellie...

I can see a Robbie& TT themed week coming... ;) Or finalists choose a Robbie and a TT classic :lol:

1) Do you believe all 5 are good singers then? I love one voice only in the band... and there is probably another one that is good, the remaining two are just 'the beautiful ones'. 2) Why did they choose to release covers instead of their own songs then? It means that even the 4 of them and their company-management do not believe they are good enough at writing, why should we...(everyone nowadays pretends he is a real artist by co-writing his songs or saying he writes songs. This is pathetic! A great voice is one thing. Being able to write good songs and lyrics is another.) 3) If they wanted no1 they shouldn't have released at this time of the year with TT on the way + Jls (I do not like them but they are really popular) on the same week. Their single wouldn't stand a chance for no1 on any week... it's sales are way lower than any recent no1. 4) Westlife are not a bad boyband imo, still don't put them into the same ring with TT, I doubt you can find anything (considering talent, popularity, sales or creativity) to win this battle...

C'm on guyz go easy on Westlife... Haven't listened to the album but safe is not THAT bad... No need to prove TT have a wider appeal really. Charis do you sincerely believe Robbie has talent at all? And TT are junk? Anyway even if TT sell 1million by next friday it won't reduce Westlife's sales, they are going to sell what they would. (~100K) Progress will sell 600K in one week even BEFORE the special offer. This could be beyond what Westlife will sell during the whole year. Their single (although it is not bad imo) is also not doing well. It will strugle to keep a low top10 place.

1)B.o.B. ft. Bruno Mars - Nothin' On You (Best) 2)Rihanna - Rude Boy 3)Glee Cast - Don't Stop Believin' 4)Plan B - She Said 5)Timbaland ft. Katy Perry - If We Ever Meet Again 6)Scouting For Girls - This Ain't A Love Song 7)Travie McCoy ft. Bruno Mars - Billionaire 8)Roll Deep - Green Light 9)Eminem - Not Afraid 10)Yolanda Be Cool & DCup - We No Speak Americano A really poor group! :puke2: I can only stand Rihanna and BOB of the whole lot, and I don't really like much any of them too... DON'T vote for Americano I will kill myself! :wacko:

The flood is flying up! And yes JLS have closed the gap with Ellie they could possibly take over for a few more hours or so... (won't make much difference there is no way Ellie could reach them in total week sales)

Class performance from TT tonight! They really are a live act! Robbie sang much better indeed... (and Howard can actually sing! :o he sounded better live than he sounds at the :puke2: affirmation) Never forget + Flood are already climbing!

Are these reviews only from peple who buy? You know how these things with hype work... A lot of TT or Robbie haters or even Robbie fans that want him solo and TT fans that don't want Robbie back , even people annoyed with the hype would submit such reviews. I think people can add their review just by browsing the album rather than buying it so they find a good chance to be as rude as they can. WHO WOULD BUY an album he rates 1/5 really? :lol: They say they usually love TT just to pretend they are objective and not preoccupied, I don't believe them anyway. However a part of TT fanbase could be honestly disapointed (not just hating Rob) since it is true this album is VERY different (and Robbie-influenced).

Never heard of... ( :teresa: ) Ellie is doing much better than I would have expected... :o

I actually like every song on this album if we count out affirmation... It is a VERY GOOD album imo. My favourite studio album of the year! (and just the second one I've bought after Speak Now)

HOW come you never listened to Progress yet? :blink: It has Robbie's marks all over it (I would say it is 60% Robbie, 30%Mark, 10%Gary) but it is still an outcome of all 5 (or 3) no matter who has the lead. You will easily understand that after listening to the whole thing. If Robbie released this album I doubt it would sell more than 1/2 it does indeed. Still TT were suffering a decrease in sales BW->Circus which dropped out quite faster. It is not only Robbie's popularity which was not 100% anymore but also TT's. I don't honestly know what makes you sure TT's next album wouldn't sell 1.5- million (following the decrease BW-->Circus) Robbies album sold a million after all so it is not that far below this figure. Both acts needed the reunion to refresh themselves in the UK, still Europe is a different thing. I do not believe could be any comparison of TT vs Robbie in Europe. That said I am almost sure it was Robbie (and management) who insisted releasing worldwide (and promoting) rather that TT wanting to steal Robbie's fanbase. This sound delusional :lol: Also, I think Robbieca meant she liked Robbie (solo) so when she got into things she found out the whole TT story and she didn't like what she saw. (Gary, the songs or whatever) She knows the story now (it is all over the place anyway) but she had no idea back then. Dear snowindecember: :blink: only this.... I am a real gentleman tonight :teresa:

It looks like top ones are performing as well, so I guess it won't change a lot in top10. (it should actually increase JLS, TT and Goulding's lead) Charyl performing the Flood? ....and what? ...then the plumber comes it? :lol: (just joking it should be a song of hers I am not aware of) Take That are supposed to sing the Flood and Never Forget. I doubt Cheryl could/would sing that song anyway. B)