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Robbie looks really good here! Best I've seen him like for years.

I only partly like the last part of the video. It is a very powerful song but the video is BAD. The white-pyjama dressed uncles are :puke2: I do not like the concept of the video at all I was hoping for a storm something darker, misty perhaps, meaningfull at least for the big reunion... Boybands are way out of fashion in worldwide music scene and this video is even more out of fashion. I hope it won't be detrimental to the single's success because I like the song. Appart from some London pics there was nothing worthy of attention in this video. (not to mention they all looked ugly) Why the hell didn't they shoot a proper video? I bet they could have the best directors if they wanted. Videos are very important nowadays! at the song :nono: at the video

:puke2: :puke2: they love to ruin all the good songs don't they? I hope it flops but I can see it selling 70% of what last year's abomination did...

A friend compiled it for me using current itunes charts from each countries itunes store. (the ones you can view the whole top 200 with by changing your country) It updates really fast compared to the top10 songs of apple which seems to update once or twice a day or so... ;) Shame is doing pretty badly I would say. (remember Bodies...) Fully deserved flop anyway, Europe wouldn't fall for a such song. The album is doing great (perhaps even better than RKTVS in some cases) and there has been no promo at all in most of these countries and no touring for a long time. :)

My itunes chart feed: UK #2#20 Shame #10 #57 Heart and I #197 Angels #194 (LOL) France #1 #86 Shame #47 Angels #137 Feel#191 Morning Sun #167 (?) Deutschland #1 #95 Shame #27 #29 Angels #180 Australia #2 Shame#156 Austria #1 Shame #25 #36 Belgium #1 #20 Shame #46 #48 Angels #112 Denmark #5 #25 Shame #28 #100 Heart and I #173 Finland #4 #34 Shame #177 Greece #1 #3 Shame #42 Ireland #5 #97 Shame #18 #61 Italy #2 #6 Shame #20 #55 Heart and I #44 Luxemburg #1 #3 Shame #27 #62 #163 Netherlands #2 #15 Shame#9 #49 Angels #116 New Zealand #8 Norway #3 #28 Shame #106 Portugal #1 Spain #2 #9 Shame#45 #50 Feel#191 Swizerland #3 #27 Shame #30 #69 Sweeden #2 #25 Shame #19 #129 Feel #132 IAOOC is doing GREAT It should currently be no1 in all bold ones (hard to call in Swizerland and Norway)

:o :huh: Just noticed that the chorus of the Flood is almost identical to the chorus of an old Greek boyband song (which is definitely a rip-off sb else that I don't know :P :lol: )

We definitelly disagree here. In my opinion, although Shame was a shame Bodies was a big 1st single (a lot of people disagree on that so guess it was not that instant). I knew Bad Boys would get the no1 too but not because it was better. Even feel wouldn't chalenge Bad Boys and Angels wouldn't challenge Bleeding Love... It was the XF winners big 1st single and Rob's single selling ability is not good enough for that. In what world is Bad Boys superior to RB or Bodies really? :wacko: There is much confusion on Rob's 'flops or bad performances'. Rudebox was a flop for Rob's selling standards and its quality was under his standards for a big percentage (the older ones?) of his fanbase. When people or press make such comments they have to do with Robbie only and not Robbie compared to Alex or anyone else. I strongly believe Bodies was high quality compared to Bad Boys. But it is beyond obvious that Rudebox is not "best be forgotten or flop" compared with Alexandra's (I am only using her as an example because you refered to her) Overcome both sales- and quality-wise. I remember a lot of fans and haters blamed Alex for not singing live so I quess she didn't quite outshine him despite the fact he was shaky and his singing was bad. And since we are talking here about the XF risking going more offtopic I would say it has already peaked and it is moving down now. XF winners do fade away fast and saleswise Leona( :wub: )> Alex/Jls > Olly/Joe>....... It always has to do with the quality of their semi-puppet' work but it really appears to work this way. But since the fresh XF blood is weak this year Alex+Jls will not suffer a huge decrease in popularity because FX fans will turn to them.

Alexandra's sales were beyond Robbie's reach anyway. He is not a singles's seller and 187k is much more than what he could sell even if Bodies was better received. Her sales had nothing to do with Robbie. Alexandra would sell what she did and so would Robbie no matter if they were releasing on the same week or not. Also we are talking about different numbers here but JLS easily beat Alex on album sales. It is kind of becoming a tradition! :blink: (she did not flop in any way though; she is more than safe for the time being) I believe Cee lo will get this no1 for a 2nd week :o Robbie's GH is what makes Shame fall I'd say. Peope buy the album rather than the song (so did I). Shame is nothing remarkable and Rob's fanbase is not that keen on chart battles to care about how well it does.

It would be interesting if we somehow knew how much each format of IAOOC sells. It looks as if the deluxe version sells better than the simple one. This is understandable since the deluxe is SO much better (not to mention the Ultimate which is however sadly very expensive) but it is a HUGE thing, isn't the it? I don't recall many deluxe editions doing that good despite the fact deluxe is more expensive. Not to mention artists nowadays usually have to promote a bunch of (hit) singles to push the (cheap) album. Being able to sell an expensive + multi-disc album on the back of the 'annoying' Shame demostrates what a big album selling power Robbie still is. At last an easy no1 for RW after a LONG time. :cheer:

01)Come Undone (best) 02)Angels 03)Feel 04)No Regrets 05)She's The One 06)Let Me Entertain You 07)Tripping 08)Eternity 09)Heart And I 10)Morning Sun 11)Rock DJ 12)Advertising Space 13)Something Beautiful 14)Bodies 15)Supreme 16)Millennium 17)Strong 18)Lovelight 19)Sexed Up 20)Lazy Days 21)I Will Talk And Hollywood Will Listen 22)Somethin' Stupid - Robbie Williams And Nicole Kidman 23)She's Madonna - Robbie Williams and Pet Shop Boys 24)You Know Me 25)Radio 26)Make Me Pure 27)The Road To Mandalay 28)Rudebox 29)Kids - Robbie Williams And Kylie Minogue 30)Let Love Be Your Energy 31)Sin Sin Sin 32)Shame - Robbie Williams And Gary Barlow 33)Everything Changes - Take That 34)Misunderstood 35)Freedom 36)Old Before I Die 37)It's Only Us 38)Mr Bojangles 39)South Of The Border

WoW at Buble! I hope he can make the difference this week! It looks as if after these two week all old songs will be knocked down from top15! :D :lol:

I can see Pacey and Joey on your desk :lol:

I never said the flood was better than heart & I! ;) B)

I am bringing this up because I ve just listened to 'the Flood'. TT will crush JLS , I am more sure than ever now. Perhaps single sales won't be as impressive because of album preorders but they may still be enough. (?)

I like the song. 1000 times better than Shame! Gary kept the best one for the band album! :D The tempo around the chorus is really nice and fast and ''modern'' which is the best thing because I feared TT would try to be 'classic' in a "Shame" way. It is my favourite TT song since RTW! The lyrics are pleasant as well and the vocals perfectly set. It is one of the catchiest choruses of the year, with proper promo it will really rocket up. Although I am musically not fond of this reunion it actually turns out to be a glorious one! Thumbs up for the time being! I look forward for the live presentation. + The video looks nicely shot, nothing like embarassing 18 yo TT. We will really watch it flood radio and TV, big chance to be on the ytd top10 sales chart and dead cert to be no1 on the airplay one. I could be a hit in Europe as well if Robbie helpls with the promotion.

It is funny how he managed to pick as first single the worst one from the whole set :lol:

Rumor has it is won't be the last one ;) (not even from IAOOC) Heart & I is 1000 times better but Robbie is an album seller and I would be hugely surprized if his second single (if so) managed to get to no1 regardless the quality. The fact that he is not singing it anywhere may just mean it will be just Shame from IAOOC though. If sales figures are complete (with physicals and everything) I doubt Robbie's late week promo will have much impact on the chart. Cee lo will get the no1 with decent sales for an act with little push. It will be funny to see how media will react to ''Cee-lo's FU to Rob&Gaz'' I wouldn't worry about IAOOC next week since it faces little competition.

:blink: LOL! I've listened to this song a year or so ago when someone (it is the kindest word I could find) claimed it was a new Leona song... Is it released now? :o :o :o

Her best single for me too! (my favorite from that year together with Rule the world) But why does it chart now? Just the power of talent shows?

Shame is already no1 combined, but it is a no2 instead because Ce Lo STILL is much longer combined. I told you this would happen. Written in the stars is likely to sell strong this week 60-80K. If Robbie's and Cee-Lo's bars were already double than Tinie it would mean they would sell 160+!!! It is not going to be that huge but they will still be no1 and no2. (I really don't know, it could go either way because Robbie will close the itunes gap). Perhaps midweeks will give us an idea of 'Shame' preorders and physicals. JLS will have their biggest single one year after XF? I don't think this is possible but I haven't heard the song so I can't really tell. I am kind of happy for KOL. Radioactive is not really worthy of attention but it is nice to see something alternative on the charts. Most top10 songs have not been better than Radioactive anyway.

I don't know about JLS, they were invincible last year but all XF stars flare fast and extinguish soon. After 'the club is alive' I am a little terrified of what's next...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmDBzYipKLI I just noticed it has a b-side

No! Robbie (with Gary) and (Cee Lo) Green will both overtake! ;)

I still hate the live version of Shame so badly! 9/10 of the time it sounds so out of tune and there is no melody at all, both sing it in a very harsh way... I still believe it can be a no1 though ;)

Robbie and Green will both overtake Tinie. :cheer: F.U combined is really close and Shame will rise + it has a lot of physicals and a few preorders. (and probably some more promo lined up here and there during the week). Somehow KOL have shot up! It looks as if they are not going to flop after all. They may be able to steal a top10 position.