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XF-related songs always get a boost but the XF usually ruins 3-5 weeks + any charity or XMAS singles per year. It is not that huge. The club is alive was a terrible no1 and Jedward a terrible no2 but for me there are a lot of terrible songs ruining the charts that have nothing to do with XF. I believe Olly's song is better than the singles released by Joe Alex or JLS so far. Leona was standing out from everyone (it was admittedly the peak of the XF mania) so I don't put her in the comparison. Also I believe Olly's song is a little better than Teenage Dream so I don't care who gets the no1 spot (it is going to be close anyway) But then again Taio's Dynamite (or YBC Americano) is worse than both songs and is already a no1 (although nobody seems to complain somehow and he is male too ;) ) thats why I say it is not always the XF that ruins the charts. The charity and christmas releases are more annoying because they have xtremely strong sales! The most annoying chart story actually came from SuBo also reality TV related but not XF. I will vote for yes anyway...

I have to admit Olly's song is the best single from the last two generations of XF imo... It is cool and fun, nice melody (kind of bubblegum lyrics though).

Is the song released outside the UK already ? My itunes insits it it already charting. (Germany has always been extremely sweet to Robbie anyway :huh: ) What if the song is an airplay killer anyway? Of course it doesn't make it 'bohemian rhapsody' at all. Don't treat this like it is something unexpected or alien we always have hyped acts. Lady Gaga just needs to put on a few beer cans (not to mention Subo singing for the pope). I think there is actually something that can be said in defence of the song: it is different to the countless rnb/dance/rap songs that storm the radio! I have to agree with Bert on the fanbase though. Robbie (and TT of course) have a dedicated(?) fanbase. Still some songs outperform the rest and it is not always the best ones. Nowadays promotion and hypes do the trick (it has to do with quality as well).. or does any of you think SuBo suddenly gained millions of worldwide fans :wacko: :puke2: :teresa: I don't really believe there could be a campaign against this song. What for? Some people believe this song could be the worst no1 of the year (cool down it is not even close!) others believe it is a masterpiece (they are really few) and others that the <<'still' famous Robbie is dueting with the hugely successful lead singer of TT (begging for forgiveness)>>. Whatever! It is common sense they are all wrong!

J's are a nice bet on the hate chart! :teresa:

I won't buy this either. What's the point when I am going to buy Robbie's GH one week later anyway? Shame is an average song compared to what Gary and Robbie have produced in the recent past. I believe it is actually the worst (one of the worst if we include some b-sides) song featured in the GH. It has Radio-Hit written all over it though, so it could end up no1 on the ytd airplay chart. It will hit no1 (I would say for one week because the album release the week after that may kill the single sales) on the sales chart too. The truth is it IS a grower but fans were expecting more (eager to boo the reunion if it didn't happen) and people who are not fans are annoyed (understandable) because of the huge hype behind the song regardless the quality. This is not fresh news: remember the Gaga hype? remember the XF hype? now we have the reunion hype! +I have to agree with everything zeus said. Robbie doesn't need TT and they don't need him. However, that never stopped them before! They will all enjoy the extra money and hype as long as it lasts. (1 year). Won't do any good to Robbie's fanbase outside the UK thats for sure! Lol at the subtitle of the poll anyway

But when you talk about charting success it never has to do with the very song but with the competition. A poor song could propel forth due to lack of competition. This song will rise because of the hype anyway. I still believe this song beats most competition -although it is not the crown jewel (LOL) of either writer- and therefore deserves to do well. However, I am tempted to curse this to flop if we consider Come Undone went nowhere near the top spot. And I still find the video boring... but I expected that. RTW and Patience were great songs but the videos s*cked. Not to mention Supreme! (Or morning sun which is more recent!).. You seriously liked the video of She's Madonna? OMG you are definitely a huge fan of Robbie then! :lol: :lol: :lol:

You got it wrong! It is an average effort from BOTH! Robbie can write 1000 times better lyrics than that and Gary can write real music! (in this effort I believe the lyrics are better than the music but it makes no difference really there can be great songs with poor melody it is not the melody that makes this song a 7- instead of a 10!). When I said RKTVS had rich orchestra chords we all know Robbie didn't write them! Rob has a creative and fresh music taste but he cannot write much music on his own anyway. Perhaps it is actualy a bit more of Rob's fault because the song is in his SOLO album so his is more responsible for the result. And if I have to blame sb for the boring video it will be Rob once again it is HIS promo single of his GH album. I am not implying Gary ruined Rob's work in any way (because he didn't). After all it was Rob's decision to have him on board.

I think I've made up my mind now. The lyrics are very good (I rarely complain of Rob's lyrics anyway). The melody is warm but... not quite a melody. The start looks like a rip-off to me but the rest has a poor melody nothing like the orchestra strings of RKTVS. If Gary wrote the music and Rob the lyrics (which was what we all expected to happen) I have to say Gary has written much better stuff. The video is a bit(lot) boring for my taste but all TT and a lot of Rob's videos have been boring anyway. I don't know if it will grow on me but as a song I feel it is worse than RTW , Patience , Bodies or Morning Sun. And it is annoying how the last two were badly received and this will be commented as a masterpiece. Anyway it is not a bad song, much better than most songs out there (the competition) so it deserves to do well. I believe that it is NOT suitable for a promo single though; it is warm with nice lyrics but it is not instant and not sparkling at all. (well I thought Bodies was but the general public didn't agree!) It will definitely not help the GH anywhere outside the UK. Of course it is the GH of Europe's biggest popstar of the decade and it will be certified all around but it could have done much better with something catchier. I don't know why this song could crack the US because I never understood why his great ones didn't. If TT want to test the transatlantic waters they should but they will be really cold! Mediteranean waters are pretty cold for them too perhaps they should go for Europe first. I am wondering, will 'The Flood' will be upbeat-pop or is the 'new' TT album actually a fake-classic Beatles wanabe? If I had to rate (I may change my mind later) I'd say 7/10

Don't know what to make of it yet but it is not bad at all. The subject was like what we all expected and the video is boring for almost 3/4.3 minitues... Their voices match and it is a nice song perhaps after a few more listens I will know what to make of it. On my first listen it looked like a great song for UK radio and public but kind of a miss for Europe though. Edit: When they started to take shirts off I was afraid it would be too much of Brokeback mountain! :P

Well Rob&Gary could do the trick but it is almost impossible Pixie will. I know we don't know the quality of Joe's single but in this case it DOES NOT matter. His first week sales are bound to be very strong and frontloaded as with every XF winner. Will he do a bleeding love score? Definitely not! Something like bad boys? Not much likely but who knows... Anyway with strong sales of 80-120k I doubt Pixie could be any competition to him. Honestly I am not blown away by Joe's voice. It sounds to me a bit like out of tune opera sometimes and his intonation is... annoying but that's just my opinion I guess. After the peak of XF with Leona people may expect more from the show than what is really possible. I doubt there are going to be anymore winners with international success, great album sales and songs toping US charts. I have nothing against Joe, if his song is better than Pixie's fair play to him but this is still 'a little' subjective.

Morning Sun 21+ Bodies 30 Blasphemy 15 Last Days Of Disco 30 Difficult For Weirdos 19- Superblind 14

I know but the odds are against him this time ;) Joe has already 'suffered' to get to no1 with the climb :D :P and there is little chance he will even come close to Leona or Alexandra. I think I will be happy to see them deny the XF no1 single (and album later on) anyway :dance:

Isn't it a bit late for Taylor? Robbie and Gary will sing SHAME ;) if they are on. Simon has been triumphant for persuading TT&Robbie to perform on the show. He will either have Gary& Robbie on the first week and then all TT later this season or he will save all 5 for christmas (not going to help Rob's GH this way I doubt he would agree). Wouldn't both scenarios put them against the XF winners though? :wacko:

01 Escapology ( one of my all time favorite albums) Come Undone Feel Me and My Monkey Love Somebody Something Beautiful (actually I like all songs but have write only 5) 02 Sing When You're Winning Supreme Better Man ^_^ Let Love Be Your Energy Rock DJ Kids 03 I've Been Expecting You No Regrets She's The One Millennium Strong Grace 04 Life Thru A Lens Angels Let me Lazy Days, Killing me Old 05 Intensive Care Tripping Advertising Space Please Don't Die Make Me Pure The Trouble With Me 06 Rudebox Summertime :wub: (such a same this one was not the summer single!) The 80s Lovelight Rudebox Bongo Bong 07 Reality Killed The Video Star Morning Sun Bodies Superblind Last Days Of Disco Won't Do That 08 Swing When You're Winning Somethin' Stupid I Will Talk And Hollywood Will Listen ( I remember an amazing live performance of it!) Mack The Knife Straighten Up And Fly Right One For My Baby

LOL! How can people in such positions be so ignorant? And we are not talking about a secret little piece of information for a mino act :blink: Let's hope they stick to the other question. I quess Rob will give a funny (and spicy) answer that will make Gary go pink. (even more) :teresa: What is the meaning when it is also to feature with the complete video on the official site at the same date? Or ''next Thursday'' means the week after the radio premier?

Are all cats included as scary? Because your cat is one of a kind really :rofl: I usually buy a WWF calendar but my dog takes care of it soon enough! (I'd better not try cats, it will be a waste of money). Perhaps I should try an 'Angelina Jolie' one this year :funky: Rob's GH is already too expensive I wouldn't buy a TT (or Robbie) calendar anyway.

No reason to preorder it yet... I gotta feelin' (and hope) the price is going to be lowered again before October. I'll propably preorder it together with the new TT album (or without if I am too fed up by then) and save sth more.

You needn't have said this! :puke2: :puke2: :puke2: I am not going to be able to sleep for the weekend now. :( They should definitely give you a warning for this :P

Am I dreaming? This is GREAT news, finally a proper edition! I am definitely not going to miss this!

Is this a bug? :wacko: :D My theory is that TT fans had developed an immunity to such affections with Rob but UV radiation coming through the ozone layer muted them over time :blink: No,I believe you are running out of reasons to hate the reunion for the time being (as am I). Almost everything has been said, well at least until they give us new feedback and we get to see how the reunion works. Oh and by the way I am in Greece and in a local channel there was a headliner about the reunion: ''Robin Williams reuniting with the boyband he left back in the 90s, Take That :o (I don't know if it was just wrong spelling or they believe Robin is a singer as well!)

Wow, really nice photos! I just noticed Ayda is very beautiful! It is good that the wedding was in a close circle. Do we know anything about the deal for the photos(hoot)? Is it for charity then?

Spirit peaking at no3 in Greece is strange though (Spirit must/should be 'highly' certified also) . I am pretty sure it must have hit no1 sometime. Greek charts are annoyingly irrelevant.

1)Angels (how can you not love this one really???) 2)Let Me Entertain You 3)Lazy Days 4-)South Of The Border (I like Killing me - such a shame it was not a single instead of SoTB)

I am still wondering why are they ignoring The Silence. It is the best song of the album and is quite similar to the songs her fans voted her for in XF. Bad Boys was the upbeat obvious first single choice but the Silence should have been second single. I do not suggest this would have helped her sell much better but anyway I feel this was the right sequence rather than all this stupid choices one after the other. Broken Heels? Start without you? I know the album is not that great and does not have a lot of hit-songs but you still cannot release these as singles. Leona (who I really like) and Alexandra should step up a bit and get more involved in what they are releasing. If it was their idea (I doubt it), well they don't have amy ''promo'' tallent for sure. Oh and MrLoveTt you are right about Rihanna although I thought GGGB was her second album... well. She is having the effect on the 3rd album so it is definitely not a good example. Everybody flops(hurts) sometimes.... :P

Morning Sun Vs Ghosts (this is easy) Bodies Vs Tripping (I like both but tripping must be a little better) You Know Me Vs Make Me Pure Blasphemy Vs Spread Your Wings Do You Mind? Vs Advertising Space (ridiculously easy) Last Days Of Disco Vs Please Don't Die (this is a tie) Somewhere Vs Your Gay Friend (somewhere is not a full song...) Deceptacon Vs Sin Sin Sin Starstruck Vs Random Acts Of Kindness Difficult For Weirdos Vs The Trouble With Me Superblind Vs A Place To Crash Won't Do That Vs King Of Bloke And Bird I voted 3/3 for IC but it is a little better in all fields.