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I like the song. 1000 times better than Shame! Gary kept the best one for the band album! :D The tempo around the chorus is really nice and fast and ''modern'' which is the best thing because I feared TT would try to be 'classic' in a "Shame" way. It is my favourite TT song since RTW! The lyrics are pleasant as well and the vocals perfectly set. It is one of the catchiest choruses of the year, with proper promo it will really rocket up. Although I am musically not fond of this reunion it actually turns out to be a glorious one! Thumbs up for the time being! I look forward for the live presentation. + The video looks nicely shot, nothing like embarassing 18 yo TT. We will really watch it flood radio and TV, big chance to be on the ytd top10 sales chart and dead cert to be no1 on the airplay one. I could be a hit in Europe as well if Robbie helpls with the promotion.

It is funny how he managed to pick as first single the worst one from the whole set :lol:

Rumor has it is won't be the last one ;) (not even from IAOOC) Heart & I is 1000 times better but Robbie is an album seller and I would be hugely surprized if his second single (if so) managed to get to no1 regardless the quality. The fact that he is not singing it anywhere may just mean it will be just Shame from IAOOC though. If sales figures are complete (with physicals and everything) I doubt Robbie's late week promo will have much impact on the chart. Cee lo will get the no1 with decent sales for an act with little push. It will be funny to see how media will react to ''Cee-lo's FU to Rob&Gaz'' I wouldn't worry about IAOOC next week since it faces little competition.

:blink: LOL! I've listened to this song a year or so ago when someone (it is the kindest word I could find) claimed it was a new Leona song... Is it released now? :o :o :o

Her best single for me too! (my favorite from that year together with Rule the world) But why does it chart now? Just the power of talent shows?

Shame is already no1 combined, but it is a no2 instead because Ce Lo STILL is much longer combined. I told you this would happen. Written in the stars is likely to sell strong this week 60-80K. If Robbie's and Cee-Lo's bars were already double than Tinie it would mean they would sell 160+!!! It is not going to be that huge but they will still be no1 and no2. (I really don't know, it could go either way because Robbie will close the itunes gap). Perhaps midweeks will give us an idea of 'Shame' preorders and physicals. JLS will have their biggest single one year after XF? I don't think this is possible but I haven't heard the song so I can't really tell. I am kind of happy for KOL. Radioactive is not really worthy of attention but it is nice to see something alternative on the charts. Most top10 songs have not been better than Radioactive anyway.

I don't know about JLS, they were invincible last year but all XF stars flare fast and extinguish soon. After 'the club is alive' I am a little terrified of what's next...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmDBzYipKLI I just noticed it has a b-side

No! Robbie (with Gary) and (Cee Lo) Green will both overtake! ;)

I still hate the live version of Shame so badly! 9/10 of the time it sounds so out of tune and there is no melody at all, both sing it in a very harsh way... I still believe it can be a no1 though ;)

Robbie and Green will both overtake Tinie. :cheer: F.U combined is really close and Shame will rise + it has a lot of physicals and a few preorders. (and probably some more promo lined up here and there during the week). Somehow KOL have shot up! It looks as if they are not going to flop after all. They may be able to steal a top10 position.

It makes sense this way! Stupid Radio! :rofl: I am not surprised Radioactive isn't doing great. It has nothing on the 2 huge KOL singles and I didn't expect more that a no(8-15)... The album is doing well on preorders but I somehow feel it will be a dark era for KOL. Also, who the hell is downloading Forget You? F.U is not a very good song but it is catchy and fun... forget you ruins all the fun! (Edit: although none of them is really great, F.U is more catchy and fun but not better than Shame imo)

This may be a stupid question but will F**k you and Forget you be counted together as one song? I know they are not identical but it would be really weird to count them as two wouldn't it? I am a little confused here... (I've heard this conversation on radio too and they thought they will be 2 different songs but I don't really trust them they were just two random guys)

By 5 am (GMT) F**K You will be top10 and Forget you with shame top15, Shame's second version about no20! I believe all versions will accelerate... Shame and FU will be top 5 before monday... (and top 10 on sales chart by tuesday) This is just an estimation but not a really brilliant one, everyone would've expected something like this!

Next single? Thank god! And yes I also believe cross-promotion (and sales) of Rob's album & single together with TT's will benefit both acts. It is going to be 50 really busy days for both! (and interesting for us to watch)

Why so sure about F.U. ? It really doesn't ring any bells to me it is just funny...The fact that F.U was no1 on airplay and Shame no2 last week is the reason a lot of people are suggesting this, isn't it? But this is a really controversial argument since Shame got and will get more support from Radio + TV! Anyway Shame has preorders on its side and will probably sell about 100K which is not easy to battle for an unknown act with little promotion.

I like this one :) :cheer: . But it will go unnoticed if it is not a single (given Robbie will be in TT that is not really possible) in an album of dozens of songs. It is a bit U2-ish, isn't it? And it is not a song or melody I would expect Gary to write, but that may mean the fab5 will have some surprize songs in the album. (which would be a great start) @ Kath: it looks as if Rob has caught your eye at last! You even search and listen to his album songs (and like them).. :P :naughty:

Susan will not even sell half of what she did last year. There is no interest in her anymore and she has no musical talent, we all know it was just the power of hype and reality TV. Another xmas album after only a year of a successful one is a stupid decision anyway. I am almost sure this abomination will be her last. She will still have healthy sales, I don't expect her to flop but there is no way she could ever beat TT. I say the reinforced TT would even beat her 'Dreamed a Dream' first week easily. I would love to see her totally flop but this is only wishful thinking. EDIT: I just noticed the Gift is out a week before TT and JLS. Hopefully she will be knocked down from no1 :puke2: and will never return higher than no3. There will be a lot of heavy releases to occupy no2 the following weeks (or no1 if they can actually knock down TT)

I was wondering what are the sales of Dog Days are Over? It is a really good song such a shame none seems to notice. :( Is there any chance for it to enter the ytd top 50?

Progress eh? STUPID title :lol: If it is good enough I may consider buying. I loved 'Beautiful World' but hated the 'Circus'. I think I will do a hack-search all around to see what I can find about it but it is propably too soon. I quess we won't hear anything about 'Progress' or 'the flood' until all promo for 'Shame' is over. Then all 5 will spread to flood TV and radio.

I don't understand why people keep suggesting Joe is (or could be) a popstar... His voice sounds weird when he tries to sing pop, like child-opera! His intonation too. He CAN sing yes, but pop? Also note this song is not a live recording, it is really adjusted up and down (up mostly). And hell NO he doesn't look 19 (in the video at least). Would you ever act like that when you were 19? He's got a pretty face (athough the last smile in the video really kills it- you would never say 'wow handsome' but 'how cute' instead) but the whole dancing, smiling and moving in the video looks 'elementary school' - Especially the 'parade' part. I feel Joe would have perfectly fitted into disney if he was 6 years younger. Now he is too old for this but still the video and his whole setup (so far) has been so disney-ish. I am curious to see in what musical direction will his management choose to push him. As far as the song quality is concerned I'll simply pass. It is not BAD but it is not good either. Olly's song was better all around (in my opinion) and so was his performance- video dispite the fact Joe can sing much better. When I first saw this video with the dance moves and Joe's exploding smile and happiness I could only think of.... Mary Popins! :lol:

No this is wrong. I insist he would have outsold them on the first week because he a huge star with hugely frontloaded sales and a lot of preorders. They would have overtaken next week but this is not the question here. A lot has been said on this so let me put this on a different perspective: My argument on this is common sence. Let's just make a few calculations: Some JLS fans were eager to buy on the first week more than one copy to 'win the chart battle' everybody here knows that. So lets suppose that 1/10 of them bought 3 coppies instead of one (this is a conservative estimation because we all have seen girls with 5 covers alltogether) and the rest 9/10 bought only one copy. This would grant them +20% first week sales!!! Do you see what I mean now? We know the difference was like 1% of sales! This difference could have been even covered by 1% (1/100) of the JLS fanbase buying a second copy! Isn't it clear?

Leona vs Alexandra SuBo vs Mariah (xmas versions) Whitney vs Mariah (not likely to happen Whitney does not look into shape) Joe vs Olly (impossible) Alexandra vs Jls (impossible) Neyo vs JasonDerulo Taylor Swift vs Miley Cyrus ( taylor :cheer: ) Duffy vs Winehouse Guetta vs Timbo Spears vs Gaga vs Perry vs Rihanna --> OMG the BJ server is SO down Joe vs Miley vs Gummy Bear (and the gummy bear wins) Kesha vs Gaga

Interesting but not good enough... I have expected more to be honest. Is it the final version? The single will probably chart in low top10. I am not sure about the album though. It could sell well but slowly.. perhaps other big releases will outpeak it 2010.

:o :o :o 1) People in here BELIEVE JLS's 2nd album will outsell the one they did right after XF? (+ the fact that it also had multiple covers anyway) .How often does this really happen?. 2) And how could the most hyped album of the year sell less than what Robbie or TT did in the near past? Even if we consider some of the fanbase feels insulted they will have two huge hits (Shame & The Flood) + all TV Radio and Xmas support available in the UK. 3)Take this into account too: JLS outsold Robbie's first week by a negligible percentage which was ONLY because of the multiple cover story. (when Robbie's XF appearance was considered semi-fail and Bodies was not warmly accepted all around UK) So... if JLS had to beat TT they should probably sell 280K and TT 250K? IMO the case will be more like JLS 150-200K and TT 300-?00 K. And that's the 1st week only, I suppose TT will sell more than a million in 2010 only. I don't really understand why anything different than that could be expected so somebody with a different view please explain to me too! :huh: Anyway smart move from JLS management. I believe they knew (it turned out different though) they would lose to Robbie last year but they were sure the chart battle would activate fans to buy more that's what they are doing this time too. They do not stand a chance here but still xtra sales are welcome.