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> if thank u next came before sweetener, how do you think it would’ve done?
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Jordan Lee
post Jul 17 2019, 12:19 AM
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If sweetener and thank u, next were released the other way around with the same campaigns for each album what do you think would’ve happened?

Would sweetener have had the 3 #1 smashes.

Would no tears have been the vevo record breaker thank u, next was?

Would god is a woman have been the follow up #1 smash 7 rings was.

So many questions. I dunno why this is bothering me tbh.

But obviously with how well loved she was at the time she come back she was due a huge smash. Her comeback was gonna be huge no matter what.

But I definitely feel singles wise sweetener was much stronger and those tracks deserved #1 over the thank u, next ones.

Album sales wise they’re both roughly the same aren’t they although TUN will probably overtake but what are people’s thoughts? I’m intrigued.


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post Jul 17 2019, 10:55 AM
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Ooh interesting. I do think that 'no tears left to cry' would've been a #1 had it been released in place of 'thank u, next' but I still wouldn't have swapped them around in this scenario. The reason I think it would've been a #1 is because the obstacle in its way at the time was 'One Kiss' so it was really unlucky. Not even 'thank u, next' would've dethroned it as 'One Kiss' was the biggest song of the year here in the UK. Anything would've struggled. But I think 'no tears left to cry' was the perfect song to come back with, it's so well loved, wouldn't have changed that release for the world even if it would've been an incredible #1 single. Plus I think Ariana would've got a bit of backlash for coming back, after everything that had happened with Manchester, with a song about her exes. She can do what she wants, but the world was waiting for subject matter like this (albeit probably expecting more of a ballad) and she gets trolled so easily so I wouldn't have wanted to see that.

I do think '7 rings' would've been a #1 still in place of 'God is a woman' however, now that adjustment to that era had settled in. It has that undeniable streaming friendly big hit sound to it and had less competition than 'thank u, next' would've had, I know 'God is a woman' has that trappy sound to it too but it was always going to be more polarising with the subject matter. Maybe GIAW would've been in a better place from momentum of 'no tears left to cry' being a #1 hit but I still think it would've peaked in the top 5 again. As for third single, I don't think I could imagine 'break up with your girlfriend, i'm bored' sailing to #1 as easily as it did if it had been one era earlier. I love the song but I do think she had this insane untouchable buzz during the 'thank u, next' era that helped it to become as big as it was. But again, would there have been a bit of backlash for more 'shallow' subject matter? I'm not sure. I do think it was essential that the 'sweetener' era came first so she did give the public these really meaningful singles first, as a lot of people in the UK in particular felt this emotional connection to her, with everything going on in the news and her becoming a national treasure with 'One Love Manchester'. Then she could transition to a streaming-friendly lighthearted era singles-wise a lot easier. As for 'Breathin' - that could've perhaps done a bit better had it been in place of 'break up with your girlfriend, i'm bored'? As its release was very short-lived, due to Ariana quickly moving on to another era, there was actually overlap in fact. It's very interesting to think of what could've been but I'm glad she released what she did when she did, wouldn't have changed a thing. Her growth in success has felt so organic and a treat to witness.

(strictly UK charts btw because I don't follow the US one to the same level)
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