This is quite a interesting post from DS.

 

"Anyway, a female friend of mine went to buy a dolls house for her daughter the other day...........shopkeeper says to her "...and would you like the White or Ethnic family for your house?" She told me she was a little taken aback and practically without thinking said "White family please" Still pondering if what she had thought was slightly prejudiced the shopkeeper replied after looking "oh i'm sorry we have no more White families left"

 

Now even more flummaxed she got a bit panicky when she realised that she really didn't want to buy an ethnic family for her child's doll house! but not having the time to debate why in her head she found herself struggling to know why or find a good reason why not to tell the shopkeeper! In the end he stepped in and told her they would have new White families back next week (maybe he saw her state of distress!!)

 

Must say one thing, not really surprised they were all out of White family characters given they were in the heart of the North East of England"

That is quite an interesting post...this reminds me of that Channel 4 program on the other night investigating the extent to which we all have racist views embedded in our subconscious.

The best surgeon I've ever had was African American. He removed my wisdom teeth flawlessly. <3 Luvzhim. This woman is an idiot. Sad sad world.

...but it's ok for Muslim women to demand female-only pregnancy care.....and even then, preferably from Muslim females...?

Agreed. When I flew to the Philippines in 1991 the flight was delayed as the Muslim woman sitting next to me suddenly decided that she couldn't sit next to a man due to her religion. So we'd all to swap places like musical chairs. Why couldn't she have told the airline about that beforehand, when she booked? Surely that's sexism then?

Edited October 31, 200917 yr by Crazy Chris

...but it's ok for Muslim women to demand female-only pregnancy care.....and even then, preferably from Muslim females...?

I'm not quite sure why, but I don't really see sexist choices for care as being much of an issue. Logically though it should be, which is quite unnerving from my perspective...:unsure:

Agreed. When I flew to the Philippines in 1991 the flight was delayed as the Muslim woman sitting next to me suddenly decided that she couldn't sit next to a man due to her religion. So we'd all to swap places like musical chairs. Why couldn't she have told the airline about that beforehand, when she booked? Surely that's sexism then?

Well, sexist religion :P

Mixed race, Hispanic,...

 

yeah, right, 25% EVEN IF YOU ARE RIGHT doesnt get a % mention?..:lol:.. nahhhhh

 

 

Aren't her reasons obvious though Rob? Racism!!

 

but why is she racist?

 

Actually, it kind of does...... If she's making these sorts of comments to staff at a Hospital, what's she gonna be teaching her kid...? What kind of role model is she gonna be...? Answer - not a particularly good one.... Of course, Suedhead's example is also a valid one, BOTH of these individuals are not going to be teaching children very good lessons about tolerance or acceptance. Racism isn't inherited, it's not genetically hardwired, it's TAUGHT..... And the main ones who "teach" it are parents/guardians/family members.... Kids dont know any better, but adults do, simple as.... She's clearly an unfit parent if she hasn't learned the simple lesson that bigotry is wrong....

 

God forbid we raise another Nick Griffin.... :rolleyes:

 

And Rob, there is NO valid or logical reason that can possibly justify this "request"..... Just to play Devil's Advocate though, even supposing a member of her family was incorrectly diagnosed or not given proper treatment by a black or Asian doctor in the past, that doesn't mean she can tar ALL non-white Doctors or nurses with the same brush for goodness sake.... A white doctor or nurse is just as likely to make a mistake and/or be incompetent.... Or worse.... Look at Harold Shipman, Berverly Allitt, etc.....

 

actually i dont agree... not fully anyway, yes parents prejudices are widely passed down to their kids...BUT NOT ALL. otherwise all kids would be 'mini me's' and kids arnt. yes they are steered in a direction but ultimately kids will forge their own likes and dislikes for whatever reasons.

...and i wasnt seeking to justify her request, so DONT suggest i was doing so.

 

That is quite an interesting post...this reminds me of that Channel 4 program on the other night investigating the extent to which we all have racist views embedded in our subconscious.

 

oh yeah...the one totally prejudiced against whites, talking as if only whites could be racist towards blacks.. no mention of inter ethnic race hatred... <_<

but why is she racist?

 

 

Well why is anyone racist? They don't like non-white people!! Simple as that!

Well why is anyone racist? They don't like non-white people!! Simple as that!

That's answering 'why are they racist' with 'they're racist' Chris :lol: Rob is asking WHY they don't like non-white people, something which often has interesting results...

...but it's ok for Muslim women to demand female-only pregnancy care.....and even then, preferably from Muslim females...?

 

I can see why a woman (and not just a Muslim) would request that tbh.. There's actually a logic in that, to do with intimacy issues which is fair enough I reckon... A woman, any woman, might not be comfortable with a man treating them in that particular situation, and I would argue that this is a reasonable request, although, obviously the hospital would have the final say according to the actual availability of their midwives.. When you bring race into it though, well, that's just not on, because there's no intimacy issues involved in whether the midwife is a white, black or asian woman.... Some women prefer female gyneacologists, which, again, is fair enough....

 

 

That's answering 'why are they racist' with 'they're racist' Chris :lol: Rob is asking WHY they don't like non-white people, something which often has interesting results...

 

exactly, im trying to look deeper into the issues (in both threads) and not stop at an oversimplistic 'theyre racists'...

exactly, im trying to look deeper into the issues (in both threads) and not stop at an oversimplistic 'theyre racists'...

 

So, it's totally impossible to you that she might actually just BE a racist then Rob....? :rolleyes: I'm sorry, but I just dont see this as being a "deep, complex" story because there are no justifiable or logical excuses for this woman's outbursts other than the irrational, ethnocentric ones....

 

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar mate..... :P

 

And that applies to the BNP as well....

So, it's totally impossible to you that she might actually just BE a racist then Rob....? :rolleyes:

 

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar mate..... :P

 

no of course not, i just dont take it as a foregone conclusion and am merely asking why, there may be no excuse/reason other then she simply doesnt like black/asian people.

So, it's totally impossible to you that she might actually just BE a racist then Rob....?

And that applies to the BNP as well....

 

thats possibly the most narrow minded bit of nonsense you have EVER posted especially with the posts made on the bnp thread... i KNOW plenty of people who arnt racist but are considering voting bnp because of immigration and the percieved errosion of british culture (yet again) for the examples i gave in that thread.

 

all bnp supporters are racists? thats like saying all labour supporters are loony lefties, or tories are upper class fascists, or liberals are all wishy washy pc idiots wearing jackets wih leather patched sleaves..

thats possibly the most narrow minded bit of nonsense you have EVER posted especially with the posts made on the bnp thread... i KNOW plenty of people who arnt racist but are considering voting bnp because of immigration and the percieved errosion of british culture (yet again) for the examples i gave in that thread.

 

all bnp supporters are racists? thats like saying all labour supporters are loony lefties, or tories are upper class fascists, or liberals are all wishy washy pc idiots wearing jackets wih leather patched sleaves..

Not all people who are considering voting for the BNP may be racist but they are f***ing idiots for voting for an organisation with such overtly racist tendencies, even if it is a protest. If they really want to protest then spoil the ballot paper.

 

Did anybody see the BNP wives program on Sky Three in the last week or two. One of the wives on there asked for white midwives and she was just completely ignored. She eventually had a black (I think?) midwife.

Not all people who are considering voting for the BNP may be racist but they are f***ing idiots for voting for an organisation with such overtly racist tendencies, even if it is a protest. If they really want to protest then spoil the ballot paper.

 

... but that wouldnt protest at what the ordinary bloke WANTS to make a point about! ie immigration and eroding of the traditional british way of life... voting for the bnp will have a more profound effect on the main parties then simply destroying your ballot paper.

Can someone please explain to me what the traditional British way of life is?

 

What? Sunday lunch and crap TV? Queueing and moaning about the weather? Not going to Church? Chicken Tikka Masala? Christmas?

 

What exactly is being eroded for most people?

Can someone please explain to me what the traditional British way of life is?

 

What? Sunday lunch and crap TV? Queueing and moaning about the weather? Not going to Church? Chicken Tikka Masala? Christmas?

 

What exactly is being eroded for most people?

 

Exactly. There's been no "British way of life" since the 1950s. Apparently, Mushyman rob is under the impression that "white England" all contribute to village fetes and play cricket and drink tea all day or something... when the reality is that, like in cities, the suburbs also now live a totally cosmopolitian lifestyle, which immigration and multiculturalism naturally fits right into.

 

There are of course legitimate issues regarding immigration, such as strain on resources; but saying it causes an erosion of the "British way of life" is xenophobic nonsense, simple as that.

Can someone please explain to me what the traditional British way of life is?

 

What? Sunday lunch and crap TV? Queueing and moaning about the weather? Not going to Church? Chicken Tikka Masala? Christmas?

 

What exactly is being eroded for most people?

 

... having traditions curtailed by the pc brigade, like ive already said in the other thread, no mention of 'christmas' in briminghams festive decorations, lyrics of inoccuous nursery rhymes being changed by the heroic pc brigade (note im not blaming migrants here), the suggestion that we should now adopt other religions bank holidays, the ridiculous suggestion by danny that to be suportive of cricket on the green, afternoon teas, sunday roast, jam and jerusalem and the notion that being patriotic towards your country (but ethnic groups can do this without criticism <_< ) makes you a xenophobe!

 

mosques? MOSQUES? i know plenty who are offended by mosques here in britain, men who fought in the war for a free country, equality means equality... you try building a church in a muslim country, see where it gets you! .... and thats another thing, church bells being silent in places of immigartion from other religions... church bells have rung out for CENTUARUES here, why should they be silent here?

 

the pc brigade have done a sterling job, for years having a leftist doo gooder education system makes it now almost an offence to be british... brigning up kids to turn their back on our culture.

Exactly. There's been no "British way of life" since the 1950s. Apparently, Mushyman rob is under the impression that "white England" all contribute to village fetes and play cricket and drink tea all day or something... when the reality is that, like in cities, the suburbs also now live a totally cosmopolitian lifestyle, which immigration and multiculturalism naturally fits right into.

 

There are of course legitimate issues regarding immigration, such as strain on resources; but saying it causes an erosion of the "British way of life" is xenophobic nonsense, simple as that.

 

that is nonsense! we here in the suburbs do NOT live a cosmopolitan lifestyle, that IS limited to the big city centres...

 

how can you say that it doesnt erode the traditional way of life when we can no longer say 'black sheep' or 'blackboard', when directives have been sent out to professional peoples like the police for eg who can no longer say 'evening all' because other cultures might not understand?... being told you CANT do what we have done in some cases for many centuaries IS clearly an erosion of 'our' way of life.... now the muslims want sharia law in their community... lord... what tf would richard the lionheart thought of this? :lol: