Posted November 15, 200915 yr Among all the musicians who died relatively young, who do you feel is the greatest loss to the music industry? 1) Who do you personally miss most and wish had been around longer? 2) Who would have affected the course of popular music the most, had they lived? Well for me John Lennon is first on my list, I feel he could still have still have contributed to popular music over the last 30 years. Others who could have written great music were possibly Jimi Hendrix, Ian Curtis and Jim Morrison.
November 15, 200915 yr Among all the musicians who died relatively young, who do you feel is the greatest loss to the music industry? 1) Who do you personally miss most and wish had been around longer? 2) Who would have affected the course of popular music the most, had they lived? Well for me John Lennon is first on my list, I feel he could still have still have contributed to popular music over the last 30 years. Others who could have written great music were possibly Jimi Hendrix, Ian Curtis and Jim Morrison. Nah, I dont think John Lennon really had much more to offer tbh, I mean, what has Paul McCartney done in the past 20-odd years, as a musician, that's really been any good....? There's The Fireman project I suppose, but he's collaborating with Youth there.... So, I dont really see Lennon contributing much more than he did tbh.... Jimi Hendrix was a MASSIVE loss to music, he really did have so much more to offer, I think he could have shaped Hard Rock/Heavy Metal even more than he did, although that would be hard to imagine given he's a massive inspiration anyway... Jeff Buckley, a really sad loss, I think he would be someone else who would have made a massive difference to the US Alt Rock scene... I think that Kurt Cobain would have made more interesting music as well, he was already leading Nirvana into a different direction with "In Utero", and the whole "Unplugged" thing too... I think that a fourth Nirvana album would have really startled us all... Ian Curtis, well, that's just a given... Joy Division morphing into New Order with Curtis at the helm I think would have been different, but equally exciting and innovative...
November 15, 200915 yr I'm a big fan of The Beatles but I personally think John Lennon was a busted flush at the time of his death as his songwriting muse had long since deserted him. He was running out of steam towards the end of the Beatles as Paul's far more prolific melodic pop songs were in the ascendency as evidenced by the run of singles released in the last few years of the Beatles lifetime, and whilst his first two proper solo albums were brilliant; Some Time In New York City is arguably the worst solo Beatles album ever released; Mind Games was mediocre at best; Walls and Bridges was little better; and the 1980 comeback album Double Fantasy was not very good. Just look whilst John was coming out with relatively bland retro rock retreads on Just Like Starting Over and a sentimental love song that had it been written by Paul McCartney music critics he would have been slaughtered for (Woman); and words fail me on the sentimental inducing ode to his son Beautiful Boy (which is the artistic equivalent of John Lydon turning up on Simon Cowell's payroll as a judge on the X-Factor)...... Only Watching The Wheels; and the original demos of I'm Losing You and Serve Yourself suggested that his muse had not completely deserted him by then. Quite frankly his appalling murder gave John martyrdom and a posthumous solo career critical acclaim that his solo music quite frankly does not deserve. I mean his wife was coming up with stronger more groundbreaking material at the time of his death than John: Ft7-xEiwvJw Yoko Ono - Walking On Thin Ice Whilst even his former writing partner was being far more adventourous: zdTs-iLBKME Paul McCartney - Temporary Secretary .... As for the question..... only one answer needed .... Nick Drake. If you look at what his less talented (according to both artists themselves agree on) Richard Thompson and John Martyn achieved in the folk rock singer/songwriter genre, then it is frightening to think on what Nick Drake could have achieved with his highly influential voice (of which Paul Weller, Kate Bush, Jeff Buckley, Kurrt Cobain, Michael Stipe, Robert Smith, Badly Drawn Boy, etc have all expressed admiration for) and fantastic songwriting ability for a depression illness that could now be medically treated. In short Nick Drake is the musical equivalent of Duncan Edwards.
November 15, 200915 yr I think Walking On Thin Ice is the best single of the 80s....and possibly of all time, myself... an incredibly before-its-time record. It's so tired, these people who think Yoko was this, that she was that..... she's from a wealthy family who didn't need Lennon to further her art - in fact, in many ways, marrying him finished her art career, as the circles she moved in certainly weren't impressed she'd married a pop singer.... I think she's an incredible lady...anyway.... back on subject....
November 16, 200915 yr No contest for me, Duane Allman Probably my favourite guitarist of all time with his mastering of slide guitar and some incredible work with his brother, Eric Clapton, Wilson Pickett, Otis Redding etc till his death at 24 in a motorbike crash What he would have achieved had he lived and probably had another 30 or more years left in him as a musician shows to me what a loss he was Runner up Stevie Ray Vaughan my fave blues guitarist killed in a plane crash
November 17, 200915 yr For me it has to be Jeff Buckley, no contendors otherwise for me. He was just beginning to develop and I believe he would have released some unbelievable things if he had not died so young.
November 17, 200915 yr Well, the Stones became $h!t almost immediately once Brian Jones died. Ian Curtis - hard to say...his work may never have had the same power without the subsequent cross-examination. Sometimes this is true of a lot of people - it's the death that gives credence to their work. Some may never have been heard by anyone...
November 17, 200915 yr Other personal faves who died way before their time Paul Kossoff (Free) Ronnie Van Zant (Lynyrd Skynyrd) Bon Scott (AC/DC) All massive losses to classic rock music
November 18, 200915 yr Eva Cassidy. She could have done so many great albums. ...of more watered down, limp-as-warm-lettuce MOR karaoke cover versions...?
November 18, 200915 yr Richey Edwards Err, surely he's still considered more to be "missing in action" mate... There's still no concrete evidence of his death....
November 18, 200915 yr Err, surely he's still considered more to be "missing in action" mate... There's still no concrete evidence of his death.... I'm of the thinking he's probably the only Manic Street Preacher who's remotely alive from the neck up these days to be honest.... Even if the poor man IS alive.... I'm sure he'd be steering well clear of his former bandmates and their pub rock combo <_<
November 18, 200915 yr Err, surely he's still considered more to be "missing in action" mate... There's still no concrete evidence of his death.... He has been declared dead though. While that still doesn't mean he is definitely dead it did lead to things such as a funeral and the publication of obituaries.
November 19, 200915 yr I'm of the thinking he's probably the only Manic Street Preacher who's remotely alive from the neck up these days to be honest.... Even if the poor man IS alive.... I'm sure he'd be steering well clear of his former bandmates and their pub rock combo <_< I dunno, I thought "Journal For Plague Lovers" was actually not bad.... Obviously, a lot of that has to do with it being Richie's lyrics it has to be said..... The Manics never will do another "Holy Bible" though.....
November 19, 200915 yr ...of more watered down, limp-as-warm-lettuce MOR karaoke cover versions...? Songbird is a great album. Have you actually heard it? For me her version of Somewhere Over The Rainbow is better than anyone else's, including Judy Garland's. Edited November 19, 200915 yr by Crazy Chris
November 19, 200915 yr ...of more watered down, limp-as-warm-lettuce MOR karaoke cover versions...? Are you being fukkin serious???? Have you actually listened to the material. Virtually every song she covered was close to being regarded as near definitive.... not least because she used an impressive set of musicians around the Washington area led by former Duke Ellington; Curtis Mayfield and Jerry Butler blues/jazz guitarist Chuck Brown. Certainly Fleetwood Mac's Mick Fleetwood and Christine McVie regards her cover of Songbird as the greatest cover of a Fleetwood Mac song; Sting said the same thing about her cover of Fields Of Gold; ditto Cyndi Lauper and Time After Time and Liza Minnelli said that Eva's version of Somewhere Over The Rainbow was superior to her mum's version... The tragedy for her was that in any other decade she would have become famous but the 1990s were obsessed with fit attractive females who wore few clothes and completely obliterated songs by oversinging (coughs: Mariah; Whitney; Celine....). If Norah Jones can sell over 30 million records and Katie Melua sell over 10 million records in the 00s then I'm certain a vocallist superior to either would have cleaned up. Still I look forward to the imminent Robert Redwood produced movie .... I just hope he casts Jewel rather than Kirsten Dunst or Michelle Williams in the lead role to make it more authentic.
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