Posted January 2, 201015 yr An Islamic group said to have links to an extremist movement is planning to march through the Wiltshire town of Wootton Bassett. The town has become famous for honouring British war dead returning from Afghanistan. Islam4UK pledged the protest would be peaceful with symbolic coffins representing Muslim victims. Wootton's former mayor Chris Wannell has called on the group's leader not to hold the march. 'Brutal crusade' North Wiltshire MP James Gray said: "I've seen in the past assorted groups threaten to march, but they don't actually do it. "I wouldn't think they'd get permission from the police." Islam4UK is said to call itself a "platform" for the extremist movement al-Muhajiroun. Leader of Islam4UK, former lawyer Anjem Choudary, said the march would not coincide with a repatriation ceremony. On its website the group said it was "totally unacceptable" to honour servicemen who had contributed "directly or indirectly" to the deaths of "well over 100,000 Muslims in Afghanistan in the last 8 years". "We at Islam4UK find this totally unacceptable and as a result have decided to launch the 'Wootton Bassett March' to highlight the real casualties of this brutal Crusade," the website states. Mr Wannell said the townsfolk did not come out to honour the soldiers "for any political reason at all" but to pay their respects to "those who have given their lives for our freedom". Wootton councillor, Jenny Stratton, said: "Everyone has the right to protest, but it's not a very tactful place to do it." A spokeswoman for Wiltshire Police said: "Under the Public Order Act the organiser must inform the police of the date, time and route of the proposed procession, and the name and address of the organiser. "If the march or procession is believed to be likely to result in serious disorder, disruption or damage, then the police can impose conditions upon the organiser. "In exceptional circumstances, police may apply to the local authority for an order prohibiting such a march." To date there had been no contact from Islam4UK or any other group wishing to arrange such a march in Wootton Bassett," the spokeswoman added. What are people's thoughts on this? There is a facebook group set up against it, which claims to be for debate but I get angry reading it because it's just racist uneducated idiots saying 'if they dont like it they can go home!1' and similar. Personally, I think there's definatley two sides to this and whilst I appreciate the sentiment of what they're trying to do I do think this is the wrong way to go about it. Do debate.
January 2, 201015 yr if they dont like it they can go home... lol id have more sympathy for them if they were as vocal and protest against muslim extremists who do not reprisent the vast majority of peace loving muslims. the extremists are giving 'real' muslims a bad name, but the real muslims dont condemn their actions.
January 2, 201015 yr Anyone that attends should be deported While they are guests in our country they should have respect for that country If they don't like it here then they can fukk off
January 2, 201015 yr Anyone that attends should be deported While they are guests in our country they should have respect for that country If they don't like it here then they can fukk off lol..tell it like it is craig...lol.. you on the pop?.. (hopes of more entertaining posts :) )
January 2, 201015 yr lol..tell it like it is craig...lol.. you on the pop?.. (hopes of more entertaining posts :) ) LOL bit tipsy but bed shortly as up at 7 :(
January 3, 201015 yr Anyone that attends should be deported While they are guests in our country they should have respect for that country If they don't like it here then they can fukk off Even when it's murdering their relatives? :/ I'm sorry, you can be a naturalised citizen AND protest against your country's actions. I agree with the principle of what they're doing, but not the way they're going about it.
January 3, 201015 yr Even when it's murdering their relatives? :/ I'm sorry, you can be a naturalised citizen AND protest against your country's actions. I agree with the principle of what they're doing, but not the way they're going about it. Then they have the right to leave here If I was in a country and didn't like what the government were doing I wouldn't stay there They can't live in this country, reap the benefits that come with living here and then spit in the faces of the British public by doing this
January 3, 201015 yr Then they have the right to leave here If I was in a country and didn't like what the government were doing I wouldn't stay there They can't live in this country, reap the benefits that come with living here and then spit in the faces of the British public by doing this I'm sorry but this point is ridiculous. I'm pretty sure EVERYBODY has at least one problem with what the (well, ANY) government is doing. That's what protest is about. If you don't like what a government is doing then you make your voice heard, this is a democracy, not the sort of country that these people have left where you don't get a chance to debate what the leaders are doing. I've already said that I don't agree with their methods, but protesting against the government's actions is hardly tantamount to spitting in the faces of the British public.
January 3, 201015 yr I'm sorry but this point is ridiculous. I'm pretty sure EVERYBODY has at least one problem with what the (well, ANY) government is doing. That's what protest is about. If you don't like what a government is doing then you make your voice heard, this is a democracy, not the sort of country that these people have left where you don't get a chance to debate what the leaders are doing. I've already said that I don't agree with their methods, but protesting against the government's actions is hardly tantamount to spitting in the faces of the British public. It is by doing it at the place they are doing it They want to do it on Clapham Common or Trafalgar Sq or anywhere like that then fine but doing it at a place that has been the main centre of returning British dead servicemen is spitting in the face of this country My problem is not the protest but where they are protesting It will lead to violence and will damage the standing of muslims in this country The Luton protest was the best recruiting sergeant for the BNP in a generation
January 3, 201015 yr I've heard of these. I saw there website and it has plans of what they'll do to british monuments "when" they get into power, like in Trafalgar Sq they're going to replace the lions with pots of gold and the dude at the top with a square clock or sth. Edited January 3, 201015 yr by Kiseki
January 3, 201015 yr I'm sorry but this point is ridiculous. I'm pretty sure EVERYBODY has at least one problem with what the (well, ANY) government is doing. That's what protest is about. If you don't like what a government is doing then you make your voice heard, this is a democracy, not the sort of country that these people have left where you don't get a chance to debate what the leaders are doing. I've already said that I don't agree with their methods, but protesting against the government's actions is hardly tantamount to spitting in the faces of the British public. a democracy is it?.... sorry but i dont know 1 person over the last 40 years that has WANTED mass immigration, this has been surupticiously foisted onto us by successive governments. It is by doing it at the place they are doing it They want to do it on Clapham Common or Trafalgar Sq or anywhere like that then fine but doing it at a place that has been the main centre of returning British dead servicemen is spitting in the face of this country My problem is not the protest but where they are protesting It will lead to violence and will damage the standing of muslims in this country The Luton protest was the best recruiting sergeant for the BNP in a generation absolutely spot on craig protesting in wooton basset IS spitting in the faces of the british public.
January 3, 201015 yr I'd be much happier to see racist morons like certain people in this thread deported than Muslims. For the record, I am of course against this extremist group.
January 3, 201015 yr Then they have the right to leave here If I was in a country and didn't like what the government were doing I wouldn't stay there They can't live in this country, reap the benefits that come with living here and then spit in the faces of the British public by doing this probably the first time I've agreed with you on anything... bujt well said. I'm totally AGAINST our aggressive stance in Iraq and Afghanistan - but to march in this town of all towns is a DELIBERATE attempt to provoke outrage and violence...and I sincerely hope they get lashings of BOTH if they go ahead. (maybe 'lashings' wasn't my best choice of word, there, considering Islam.... :P )
January 3, 201015 yr I'd be much happier to see racist morons like certain people in this thread deported than Muslims. For the record, I am of course against this extremist group. isnt that contradictory? you are against that extremist group but would rather see a law abiding citizen deported?
January 3, 201015 yr They have made it perfectly clear that their protest won't coincide with any returning servicemen so there's no reason why they shouldn't demonstrate in Wootton Bassett. To paraphrase Voltaire, I don't agree with what they have to say but I will defend to the death their right to say it.
January 3, 201015 yr They have made it perfectly clear that their protest won't coincide with any returning servicemen so there's no reason why they shouldn't demonstrate in Wootton Bassett. To paraphrase Voltaire, I don't agree with what they have to say but I will defend to the death their right to say it. Irrelevant and you know it It will be full of banners calling English soldiers murderers and child killers etc and that is not acceptable in a place like that If me, Rob, Russ etc wanted to go to Mecca and protest about Mohammed being a paedophile would you think that muslims would find that acceptable ?
January 3, 201015 yr Irrelevant and you know it It will be full of banners calling English soldiers murderers and child killers etc and that is not acceptable in a place like that If me, Rob, Russ etc wanted to go to Mecca and protest about Mohammed being a paedophile would you think that muslims would find that acceptable ? That point is totally irrelevant and you know it. Saudi Arabia is not a democracy. The UK is - of sorts.
January 3, 201015 yr They have made it perfectly clear that their protest won't coincide with any returning servicemen so there's no reason why they shouldn't demonstrate in Wootton Bassett. To paraphrase Voltaire, I don't agree with what they have to say but I will defend to the death their right to say it. ... then lets have the repatriated courtage pass through a muslim district and pass right outside their main mosque... no?.. thought not. same applies, wooton basset is the symbol of our respect to the fallen.
January 3, 201015 yr ... then lets have the repatriated courtage pass through a muslim district and pass right outside their main mosque... no?.. thought not. same applies, wooton basset is the symbol of our respect to the fallen. EXACTLY.
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