It started :(

 

This is more likely to be an exception of the rule than the rule itself tbh. I don't see any more HUGE musical coming into the UK in the next ... hmmm... 3 years (at the very least, but this is still not quite likely). Not any big show have songs performed in there so you are really overreacting here.

But it'll then be any song performed on X-Factor, Dancing On Ice, by any housemates in Big Brother, any contestant in I'm a Celebrity etc.

But it'll then be any song performed on X-Factor, Dancing On Ice, by any housemates in Big Brother, any contestant in I'm a Celebrity etc.

In all seriousness i don't think any of these stand a tiny chance to at least be liked by 5 people/countries :lol: Especially about CBB/BB. :rofl:

I had been considering an obscure Dane Bowers album track from 2001 actually but I guess the mods would reject it on account of his re-found fame :(

 

:kink:

Are you really? :lol: It's not like he has or ever will have an AF :lol:

This has all gone so far that what I'm about to say will probably have the effect of a water pistol in a forest fire but I'll try anyway.

 

I am not one of the original few in this contest but I have been here since the pre-semi-final days and have seen it evolve, and as far as I've seen, the dreaded takeover of cheap and uninspired entries has been destroying the contest only in theory. Can anybody say that a few uninspired entries (and let's face it, we're not talking about Bad Boys, Fireflies, Bad Romance etc.) in a particular contest has made it a miserable contest? Personally I've still enjoyed the banter, the hyping of certain songs (and I mean on here not in the outside world) and yes I still discover new songs that I like each and every contest.

 

I understand the intent behind these new rules, but as far as I can see, it is rules and regulations like these that stand a much more real chance of destroying the contest. They will cause arguments, make hosts' jobs much more difficult, and I am pretty sure we'll spend as much time voting on proposed new rules or removals of rules as we will in the contest itself.

 

Yes, some contests are made slightly tedious by people entering songs which won't really prove anything, but I'd much rather have that than argument, grey areas and logistical nightmares. OK so the winner was quite predictable last time but the majority of people in the contest agreed that it was the highest quality final in a very long time, and I'm sure they enjoyed listening to the songs and making new discoveries. It's got to the point where a few great past winners and other classics would not be allowed in the contest today!

 

Basicaly, in reality, I think increased red tape and regulations and ongoing debate about these pose a far worse threat to the long term future of the contest than cheap entries.

After some contemplation, and as a Glee fanatic myself, I've decided it doesn't really pose much of a risk. The symbolism of picking out a show is far more damaging than any result that would come from Glee would be, and it's definitely not worth a blanket ban (if Don't Stop Believin' got third, I don't imagine anything else CURRENTLY about could come close in all honesty). Any new releases when the second half of the season comes in April can easily be dealt with using the ban list...

Right, seeing as there's been a lot of worry over what effect this could have, I'm going to go through the last few contests to find out which entries would likely have been affected...these songs have been bolded.

 

BJSC XV [April] - Quotosibb - Bhux

 

Final

 

01: Mdiče - Röyksopp; Robyn - The Girl And The Robot - 207 [sF1: 1 // 157]

02: Kathaldazia - Jody - Wind It - 159 [sF1: 2 // 114]

03: Hendinia - Kim Leoni - Medicine - 140 [sF2: 10 // 66]

04: Kopečka - Erik Hassle - Hurtful - 134 [sF2: 2 // 119]

05: Inner Massivia - Little Boots - Mathematics - 131 [sF1: 5 // 93]

06: FSR Rontvia - Emiliana Torrini - Jungle Drum - 127 (most 12s)

07: Scherzland - A.R. Rahman; Pussycat Dolls - Jai Ho! - 127 [sF1 3 // 103] (fewer 12s)

08: Numayania - Nexx - Paralyzed - 127 [sF2: 5 // 101] (fewer 12s)

09: Kingdom of Shadow - Janet Leon - Breakaway - 115 [sF2: 1 // 138]

10: Ojnoj - Keri Hilson; Kanye West & Ne-Yo - Knock You Down - 110 [sF2 7 // 82]

11: Cadbury - Yeah Yeah Yeahs - Heads Will Roll - 105 [sF2: 13 // 65]

12: QUOTOSIBB - Video Villain - Paranoia - 84

13: People’s Republic of Jester - Passion Pit - Sleepyhead - 82 [sF1: 12 // 61]

14: Rivandia - Chew Lips - Solo - 79 [sF1: 8 // 72]

15: New Rivermaya - Lady GaGa - LoveGame - 78 [sF1: 4 // 101]

16: Xanaga - Ladyhawke - Back Of The Van - 76 [sF1: 7 // 79]

17: Botanikka - Petros - Predator - 75 [sF1: 10 // 71]

18: M.K.L. - Cassie; Akon - Let’s Get Crazy - 74 [sF2: 9 // 67]

19: Frahliso - Kish Mauve - Come On - 72 [sF1: 9 // 72]

20: Land of Jack - Sabrina Salerno - Erase Rewind - 71 [sF1: 11 // 67]

21: Torchwood - BoA; Sean Garrett - I Did It For Love - 69 [sF1: 13 // 59]

22: Utopia - Los Compesinos! - Ways To Make It Through The Wall - 66 [sF1: 6 // 80]

23: Ashton - Haffi Haff - Give Me Sexy - 65 [sF2: 3 // 113]

24: Britmasu - Mandy Moore - I Could Break Your Heart Any Day of the Week - 62 [sF2: 6 // 85]

26: Lorikeet - The Saturdays - Work - 51 [sF2: 4 // 105]

25: Nonsuch - Natasha Bedingfield - Again - 44 [sF2: 8 // 72]

27: FNT Nickodonia - Mira Craig - I’m The One - 43

28: Fortunia - Stacie Orrico - So Simple - 38 [sF2: 12 // 65]

29: Dulpaen - Sophie Ellis-Bextor - Everything Falls Into Place - 31 [sF2: 11 // 66]

 

BJSC XVI [May] - Mdiče - Vartza

 

Final

 

01: MDIČE - VV Brown - Shark in the Water - 199

02: Torchwood - La Roux - Bulletproof - 173 [sF1: 1 // 139]

03: Kellyana Kingdom - Florence and the Machine - Rabbit Heart (Raise It Up) - 148 [sF1: 3 // 102]

04: Quotosibb - David Guetta; Kelly Rowland - Love Takes Over (Electro Radio Edit) - 130 [sF2: 3 // 77 (no 12s)]

05: Ashton - Alex Roots - Don't Stop Looking - 113 [sF1: 9 // 74 (more 12s)]

06: Nonsuch - Marina and the Diamonds - I Am Not a Robot - 109 [sF1: 1 // 80]

07: M.K.L. - Jessica Jarrell - Armageddon - 107 [sF2: 7 // 64]

08: JRK-off - Space Cowboy - Falling Down - 104 [sF2: 8 // 63]

09: Hendinia - Booty Luv - Say It - 101 (same votes, more 12s) [sF1: 2 // 104]

10: FSR Rontvia - Blänk; Young Ivy - I'm Going For Your Brother - 101 (same votes, fewer 12s) [sF1: 6 // 84]

11: Kylienips - Bat For Lashes - Glass - 98 [sF2: 6 // 68]

12: Land of Jack - 3OH!3 - Don't Trust Me - 95 [sF1: 8 // 81]

13: Inner Massivia - Yeah Yeah Yeahs - Zero - 94 (more votes) [sF1: 13 // 48 (no 12s)]

14: B.a.N.G. - Elize - Can't You Feel It - 94 (fewer votes) [sF1: 5 // 95]

15: Utopia - Animal Collective - Summertime Clothes - 87 [sF2: 9 // 57]

16: Dalisska - thecocknbullkid - I'm Not Sorry - 85 (most votes) [sF1: 7 // 82]

17: Numayania - Serebro - Never Be Good - 85 (more votes) [sF1: 4 // 100]

18: Ben's Sanctuary - Ultra Nate - Automatic - 85 (fewer votes) [sF1: 11 // 73]

19: Xanaga - Ashley Tisdale - It's Alright, It's Okay - 65 (more votes) [sF2: 4 // 70 (more 12s)]

20: Fervorosia - Da Buzz - Alive - 65 (fewer votes) [sF1: 12 // 50]

21: Kingdom of Shadow - Annie - Anthonio - 59 [sF1: 10 // 74 (fewer 12s)]

22: Botanikka - Esmee Denters - Outta Here - 53 [sF2: 2 // 77 (more 12s)]

23: FNT Nickodonia - Laura Marling - Ghosts - 46 (more votes) [sF2: 5 // 70 (fewer 12s)]

24: Kathaldazia - Nadine - Made Up My Mind - 46 (fewer votes) [sF2: 11 // 49]

25: Spizil - The Corrs - Summer Sunshine - 44 [sF2: 10 // 55]

26: Ojnoj - The Yeah Yous - 15 Minutes - 34 [sF1: 13 // 38]

27: Greenfroze - Manian - Welcome to the Club - 33 [sF1: 14 // 37 (most 12s)]

28: Rivandia - Slow Club - Christmas TV - 28 [sF2: 14 // 45]

29: FSR Farahtyn - Jessica Malakouti - PS - 15 [sF2: 12 // 48 (more 12s)]

 

BJSC XVII [June] - Torchwood - Cardopia

 

Final

 

01: FSR Rontvia - Beautiful Small Machines - Robots In Love – 192 [sF1: 1 // 133]

02: M.K.L - Livvi Franc – Now I’m That Bitch [Nevins Rhythmic Remix] – 179 [sF2: 1 // 152]

03: Angelicland - MPHO - Box N Locks – 151 [sF2: 2 // 140]

04: Kopečka - Kaci Battaglia - Crazy Possessive – 135 [sF2: 3 // 128]

05: Numayania - Infernal - Redefinition – 130 [sF1: 3 // 104]

06: Ojnoj - LeToya - She Ain't Got... – 117 [sF2: 5 // 97]

07: JRK-off - Owl City - Strawberry Avalanche – 115 [sF2: 9 // 73]

08: Botanikka - Gathania - Blame It On You – 113 [sF2: 4 // 111]

09: Nonsuch - Tinchy Stryder; Amelle Berrabah - Never Leave You – 112 [sF1: 2 // 121]

10: Mdiče - Firefox AK - Once I Was Like You - 107

11: Cadbury - Mr Hudson; Kanye West - Supernova – 96 [sF1: 6 // 97] (I *think* this was entered before it started to get airplay?)

12: Hendinia - SamSaya - Money – 93 [sF1: 11 // 56 (3 12s)]

13: Kingdom of Shadow – Lights – White – 90 [sF1: 7 // 80]

14: Dalisska – Lucy In The Sky – Walk Like Me – 89 [sF1: 5 // 99]

15: Kathaldazia – Flash Republic – Twister (I Dont Even Know Your Name) – 86 [sF2: 6 // 95]

16: Tinnmark – Cascada – Evacuate The Dancefloor – 84 (More Votes, 4 12s) [sF1: 8 // 77]

17: Lievant – Elin Lanto – I Won’t Cry – 84 (Less Votes, No 12s) [sF2: 7 // 76]

18: Skall – Fever Ray – When I Grow Up – 76 [sF1: 10 // 71]

19: Quotosibb – Tegan & Sara – Back In Your Head – 75

20: Deandria – Regina Spektor – Samson – 73 [sF2: 8 // 75]

21: People’s Republic of Jester – Emma Deigman – It Was You – 67 [sF1: 9 // 76]

22: Ben’s Sanctuary – Chicane – Poppiholla – 66 [sF1: 4 // 100]

23: Britmasu – Peaches – Talk To Me – 52 (More Votes, 1 12) [sF2: 13 // 54 (One 12)]

24: United States of Jack – Black Eyed Peas – Missing You – 52 (Less Votes, No 12s) [sF2: 12 // 55]

25: Lorikeet – Stacie Orrico – There’s Gotta Be More To Life – 49 [sF2: 10 // 71]

26: TORCHWOOD – Steph Spencer – Computer Sensing Love – 44

27: Frahliso – The Brownies – Cougar – 43 [sF1: 12 // 56 (1 12)]

28: Eledan – Marit Bergman – Bang Bang – 26 [sF2: 11 // 63]

29: Brokeback Mountain – Ash – Return of White Rabbit – 14 [sF1: 13 // 55]

 

BJSC XVIII [July] - FSR Rontvia - Klurren

 

Final

 

01: Mdiče - Kesha - Dolla/TiK ToK - 189 [sF2: 3 // 103]

02: Elëdan - Shakira - Loba - 169 [sF2: 8 // 68 (1 10)]

03: Numayania - Le Kid - Mercy Mercy - 136 [sF1: 2 // 106]

04: United States of Jack - Cobra Starship; Leighton Meester - Good Girls Go Bad - 135 [sF1: 1 // 108]

05: Skall - Florence and the Machine - Cosmic Love - 130 [sF2: 2 // 116]

06: Kingdom of Shadow - Rosanna - Gameboy - 123 [sF2 4 // 85]

07: Angelicland - Daniela - You & I - 121 [sF1: 6 // 77]

08: Nonsuch - Ben Folds; Regina Spektor - You Don’t Know Me - 118 [sF1: 11 // 60]

09: Greenfroze - Aly & AJ - Potential Breakup Song - 114 [sF2: 1 // 119]

10: Lorikeet - The Veronicas - 4ever - 110 [sF1: 3 // 106]

11: Torchwood - Nicole Statements - Taller - 102 [sF1: 5 // 92]

12: Botanikka - Nelly Furtado - Manis Al Aire - 100 [sF1: 8 // 68]

13: Bhangra - Yohanna - I Miss You - 95 [sF1: 12 // 56]

14: M.K.L. - Michelle Williams - Hello Heartbreak - 94 [sF1: 4 // 100]

15: Xanaga - Ashley Tisdale - How Do You Love Someone - 87 (More Votes) [sF1: 9 // 63]

16: Espen - Kerli - Love Is Dead - 87 (Less Votes) [sF2: 5 // 79]

17: Deandria - Röyksopp; Karin Dreijer Andersson - This Must Be It - 85 [sF2: 7 // 68 (3 10’s)]

18: Ashton - Delta Goodrem - Eletric Storm - 83 [sF1 13 // 53]

19: Quotosibb - M$ney - Future - 76 (More Votes) [sF1: 7 // 70]

20: FNT Nickodonia - Polly Scattergood - Other Too Endless - 76 (Less Votes) [sF2: 6 // 78]

21: Herzebania - Marie Serneholt - Disconnect Me - 70 [sF2: 12 // 54 (No 12)]

22: Kylienips - Melys - Chinese Whispers - 68 [sF2: 11 // 54 (2 12’s)

23: Utopia - Alex Metric - Head Straight - 65 [sF2: 10 // 63]

24: Dalisska - BWO - Right Here Right Now - 63 [sF2: 9 // 64]

25: FSR Rontvia - Example - Watch The Sun Come Up (Neon Cloud Edit) - 62

26: Land of Jack - Moby & Mylene Farmer - Slipping Away (Crier La Vie) - 52 [sF2: 14 // 53 (No 12)]

27: Brokeback Mountain - Girls Aloud - Miss You Bow Wow [QOD Radio Edit) - 43 [sF1: 10 // 62]

28: Fervorosia - Anja Garbarek - The Last Trick - 38 [sF2: 13 // 53 (1 12)]

29: JRK-off - Shy’m - Step Back - 35 [sF1: 14 // 49]

 

BJSC XIX [August] - Numayania - New Svetlandiya

 

Final

 

01: Kathaldazia - Eva Simons - Silly Boy - 268 [sF2: 1 // 170]

02: Numayania - Alcazar - Stay The Night - 180

03: Kopečka - Priscilla Renea - Dollhouse - 155 [sF1: 1 // 135]

04: Bhangra - Jade Ewen - My Man - 144 [sF2: 2 // 96]

05: Hendinia - Mini Viva - Left My Heart In Tokyo - 141 [sF1: 2 // 113]

06: Angelicland - Dolly Rockers - Gold Digger - 136 [sF2: 6 // 80]

07: Xyland - Medina - You & I - 131 [sF1: 3 // 112]

08: Espen - Katzenjammer - A Bar In Amsterdamn - 127 [sF1: 7 // 92]

09: Lotopialand - Daisy - Everytime - 115 [sF1: 4 // 98]

10: Greenfroze - Donkeyboy - Ambitions - 110 [sF2: 3 // 92]

11: Utopia - Spinnerette - Baptized By Fire - 108 [sF2: 10 // 63 (More Voters)]

12: Mdiče - Daisy Dares You - Daisy Dares You - 107

13: JRK-off - Alexa Soulshock - Push & Pull - 104 [sF2: 9 // 64]

14: FSR Rontvia - Hafdis Huld - Kongulo - 103 [sF1: 8 // 84]

15: Torchwood - Taio Cruz - Break Your Heart - 91 [sF1: 6 // 93]

16: Quotosibb - Brandy - Afrodisiac - 83 [sF1 5: // 94]

17: Lievant - RaVaughan - Revolver - 81 [sF2: 4 // 81 (More Voters)]

18: Ojnoj - Kristinia DeBarge - Sabotage - 77 [sF1: 11 // 67]

19: Rivandia - Air France - Collapsing At Your Doorstep - 76 [sF2: 8 // 64 (More Voters)]

20: Liechenstaan - Lady GaGa - Second Time Around - 74 [sF1: 13 // 62]

21: Lorikeet - Beverley Knight - Beautiful Night - 72 [sF2: 12 // 61]

22: United States of Jack - Kid Sister - Right Hand Hi - 72 [sF1: 9 // 79]

23: Ashton - Cinderella Theory - IN2U - 70 [sF1: 10 // 77]

24: Kylienips - Nerina Pallot - Real Late Starter - 68 [sF2: 7 // 72]

25: Camdonia - Gary Numan - Cars - 59 [sF1: 12 // 62 (More Voters)]

26: Tinnmark - Bertine Zetlitz - 500 - 54 [sF2: 11 // 63]

27: People's Republic of Jester - Sophie Ellis-Bextor - Off And On - 53 [sF2: 13 // 59]

28: Fervorosia - Nikolina - Naked (Why Did You Leave Me Stranded) - 41 [sF2: 5 //81]

 

BJSC XX [september] - Kathaldazia - Disco Heaven

 

Final

 

01: Numayania - Alphabeat - The Spell - 193

02: FSR Rontvia - Anna Abreu - Music Everywhere - 178 [sF1: 3 // 99]

03: United States of Jack - Cassie Davis - Do It Again - 167 [sF1: 2 // 103]

04: Ashton - Tone Damli Aaberge - Butterflies - 160 [sF2: 1 // 98]

05: Nonsuch - Ladyhawke - Magic - 154 [sF1: 6 // 81]

06: Zechonia - Stanfour; Jill - In Your Arms - 143 [sF2: 3 // 91]

07: Brokeback Mountain - Agnes - Love Love Love - 135 [sF1: 1 // 114]

08: Kopečka - The Sound of Arrows - Into The Clouds - 134 [sF2: 4 // 77]

09: Britmasu - Pixie Lott - Here We Go Again - 125 [sF2: 6 // 74]

10: Quotosibb - David Guetta; Estelle - One Love - 120 [sF1: 8 // 66]

11: Lorikeet - The Saturdays - Forever Is Over - 111 [sF2: 8 // 69]

12: Angelicland - Elek-Tro Junkies; Therese - Neon Lights - 102 [sF1: 5 // 83]

13: Fervorosia - Stereo - Last Forever - 101 (More Votes) [sF2: 5 // 76]

14: Dalisska - Ameerah - Sound of Missing You - 101 (Less Votes) [sF1: 12 // 52]

15: Triodopolis - bim - The Battle - 98 (More Votes) [sF1: 15 // 50 (More Tens)]

16: Botanikka - Kim Sozzi - Feel Your Love - 98 (Less Votes) [sF2 2: // 96]

17: Utopia - Monkey Swallows The Universe - Bloodline - 82 [sF2: 12 // 62]

18: FNT Nickodonia - Annet Artani - Alive - 77 (More Votes) [sF1: 7 // 76]

19: BaNG - Wynter Gordon - Renegade - 77 (Less Votes) [sF2: 9 // 66]

20: Stevinia - Mr. Hudson - White Lies - 71 [sF2: 10 // 64 (More Twelves)]

21: Ojnoj - Cindy Gomez - Again & Again - 68 [sF1: 9 // 60]

22: Liechenstaan - Angelica Vasilcov - Boys & Girls - 66 [sF1: 4 // 86]

23: Torchwood - YENN - So Good To Be Wrong - 64 (More Votes) [sF2: 7 // 70]

24: Herzebania - Millionaires - Take Your Shirt Off - 64 (Less Votes) [sF2: 13 // 61]

25: Lievant - Hannah - Keeping Scores (Bimbo Jones Radio Mix) 64 (Less Votes) [sF1: 11 // 54 (Less Tens)]

26: Kathaldazia - Jadyn Maria; Flo Rida - Good Girls Like Bad Boys - 62

27: Bhangra - Girls Can’t Catch - Stop - 55 [sF0: 10 // 54 (More Tens)]

28: Lotopialand - No Angels - One Life - 48 [sF2: 14 //59 (More Twelves)]

29: Hendinia - RaVaughn - Problem With Love - 40 [sF2: 11 // 64 (Less Twelves)]

 

BJSC XXI [October] - Numayania - Balan

 

01: Lorikeet - The Dolly Rockers - Boys Will Be Boys - 174

02: Kopečka - Dollface - Miss Jamaica - 169

03: Tinnmark - Velvet - Come Into The Night - 146

04: Angelicland - Flamboyant Bella - Get A Reaction - 145

05: Sangria - Samsaya - ADHD (Love Me Not) - 130

06: Xanaga - Livvi Franc - Automatik - 126

07: Ben's Sanctuary - Madonna - It's So Cool - 126

08: FSR Rontvia - Fabio Lendrum - Don't Wait For Me - 118

09: Quotosibb - Beverley Knight; Chaka Khan - Soul Survivor - 117

10: United States Of Jack - 3OH!3; Katy Perry - Starstrukk - 114

11: Hendinia - Linda Teodosiu - Reprogram My Heart - 112

12: Kingdom Of Shadow - Get Far; H-Boogie - The Radio - 107

13: Elëdan - Tiësto; Kele Okereke - It's Not The Things You Say - 106

14: Lievant - Chew Lips - Salt Air - 105

15: Torchwood - Le Kid - Telephone - 103

16: B.a.N.G. - Siobhan Donaghy - Don't Give It Up - 100

17: Ojnoj - Noah & The Whale - The First Days of Spring - 95

18: Utopia - Sally Shapiro - My Fantasy - 94

19: Greenfroze - Carmen and Camille - Shine 4U - 91

20: UnoShake - One Republic - All The Right Moves - 90

21: Camdonia - You Love Her Coz She's Dead - Superheroes - 68

22: Ashton - Sugababes - Whatever Makes You Happy - 68

23: Stevinia - Muse - Undisclosed Desires - 65

24: Lotopialand - Queensberry - Too Young - 64 [the same amount of votes; 2 twelves]

25: Fervorosia - Prima J - Rockstar - 64 [the same amount of votes; 1 twelve]

26: Nonsuch - Lily Allen - Don't Get Me Wrong - 62

27: Numayania - Fibes, Oh Fibes!; Kim Wilde - Run To You - 58

28: Brokeback Mountain - Remi Nicole - Go Mr Sunshine - 45

29: Bhangra - Jade Ewen - I Had Him First [Acoustic] - 38

 

XXII's results aren't to hand, but off the top of my head Ellie and Glee would've been excluded? Hollywood would've obv been out of the latest one.

 

HENCE, looking at this list, what are you all worried about? Aside from Bev, I don't really see much cause for complaint.

I would have won XVI :drama:

I would have won XVI :drama:

Well, there's no accounting for taste :kink:

wow, I hadn't recalled quite how completely uninspired XVI had been - the top 4 all ban worthy :lol: it's when I had my biggest inspiration (in my opinion) too with I'm Going For Your Brother :o would have loved that to have come higher!

 

Music Everywhere would have won :snif:

 

not to throw a spanner in the works, but with all of these new songs banned, as soon as the inevitable flood of ESC rejects comes through in the next 3 or 4 months I expect there will be a call for a lot of these to be banned too - Stay The Night for example already had a substantial fanbase/internet following before it was sent to BJSC...so don't be surprised when there is call for the ESC rejects to be re-banned again, especially those that are obviously going to do well (which clearly wasn't the case with Martina/Caroline Af Ugglas)

HENCE, looking at this list, what are you all worried about? Aside from Bev, I don't really see much cause for complaint.

 

Personally, the inevitable arguments, debates and nitpicking, rather than the songs that now can't be sent.

 

Looking at that list, what are you worried about?!

Looking at that list, what are you worried about?!

The fact that we've had the threat of several private withdrawals if this situation continues? :P People are generally seeing the flocking to the high-profile cheapies as sullying what seems to be a general upward trend in song quality - which I think has been evidenced by the fact that this thread hasn't turned into World War III as I thought it would :lol:

not to throw a spanner in the works, but with all of these new songs banned, as soon as the inevitable flood of ESC rejects comes through in the next 3 or 4 months I expect there will be a call for a lot of these to be banned too - Stay The Night for example already had a substantial fanbase/internet following before it was sent to BJSC...so don't be surprised when there is call for the ESC rejects to be re-banned again, especially those that are obviously going to do well (which clearly wasn't the case with Martina/Caroline Af Ugglas)

Given that we've only had two bona fide successes (to my memory) in Butterflies and Stay The Night (the latter of which shocked everyone by doing so well :P), I don't think it's a huge problem, although one we're scanning...generally though, given that not many participants pay a great deal of attention to the pre-selections (even I'm trying to force myself to concentrate! :lol:) I don't think we're going to have many that are so hyped into victory that wars ensue over the selection and everyone declares the contest over :P

 

As I said though, we'll keep an eye out in case anything does come up along those lines...

wow, I hadn't recalled quite how completely uninspired XVI had been - the top 4 all ban worthy :lol: it's when I had my biggest inspiration (in my opinion) too with I'm Going For Your Brother :o would have loved that to have come higher!

 

Music Everywhere would have won :snif:

 

not to throw a spanner in the works, but with all of these new songs banned, as soon as the inevitable flood of ESC rejects comes through in the next 3 or 4 months I expect there will be a call for a lot of these to be banned too - Stay The Night for example already had a substantial fanbase/internet following before it was sent to BJSC...so don't be surprised when there is call for the ESC rejects to be re-banned again, especially those that are obviously going to do well (which clearly wasn't the case with Martina/Caroline Af Ugglas)

 

Another point, I think that needs to be resolved before BJSC_TwentyFour starts is the banned list:

 

I personally think the Mods should come up with a list of artists/songs that are due to imminently leak and ban them in advance, as I think that would be much much better than someone nominating X artist - song only to then find out the Mods have banned it after that country have suggested it as their entry.

 

Plus I like the concept of the poacher trying to outwit the gamekeeper.

Another point, I think that needs to be resolved before BJSC_TwentyFour starts is the banned list:

 

I personally think the Mods should come up with a list of artists/songs that are due to imminently leak and ban them in advance, as I think that would be much much better than someone nominating X artist - song only to then find out the Mods have banned it after that country have suggested it as their entry.

 

Plus I like the concept of the poacher trying to outwit the gamekeeper.

We already have that in place Rich :P

We already have that in place Rich :P

 

Well I'm only thinking back to my Tinchy Stryder ft Amelle entry which I grabbed when I was on holiday the day an excited Tinchy went into the Radio 1 Xtra studio (I still can't forget that morning being in my hairdressers when that happened on the Radio) and played it 7/8 weeks in advance of its single release (it only charted the week ending 15/08/2009 two weeks after Kanye West ft Mr Hudson by the way); and a month before the song & video was playlisted; so that I nominated it when I came home that morning before most of you knew it was out there (and got annoyed) :lol: .

 

 

I'm still annoyed that Bev is banned. How else am I meant to get people to pay attention to her?! That's the reason I joined this contest. :lol: Sad times. I basically agree with Peter, but I'm outnumbered.

 

I think this ban is so much more than just that list of highlighted songs. It'll also create a pretense of people being cautious to send songs that might be added to the Radio 1 playlist, but eventually aren't. MPHO with "Box N Locks" is an example, I actually think that may have been banned in the end. (I can't remember when Radio 1 added it) Going back, I'd be surprised if Lewis sent it as it was on the release schedule and ended up being played by Radio 1. The risk of if happening again might be too much now. Let's use another example. If Sabrina Washington - "OMG" leaks in time, I wouldn't be sure whether to send it. Who can tell if Radio 1 will support it? It's on the release schedule, but it's not clear whether they'll play it. Yes, it could be an exception, but we can't be making too many of those or it looks a bit dictatorial.

 

I dunno, I'm just bored of this at the moment. It seems the rules are bent to suit the people making them. A year ago it was "don't ban Eurovision NF rejects! people should be able to enter whatever they like most at the time! :(" and now it's "well, actually, you can't send anything from the Radio 1 Playlist, MTV Hits Playlist, current albums of artists with an AF, the iTunes top 40 or Billboard chart. oh and any other songs we deem inappropriate." -_-

 

I love how when it's my turn to host, we always have a big change. :lol: VII - two semi finals for the first time. XV - Eurovision NF drama, last contest they were banned. XXIV - the start of this new rule.

 

The reservation thread will open when I decide. :)

Well I'm only thinking back to my Tinchy Stryder ft Amelle entry which I grabbed when I was on holiday the day an excited Tinchy went into the Radio 1 Xtra studio (I still can't forget that morning being in my hairdressers when that happened on the Radio) and played it 7/8 weeks in advance of its single release (it only charted the week ending 15/08/2009 two weeks after Kanye West ft Mr Hudson by the way); and a month before the song & video was playlisted; so that I nominated it when I came home that morning before most of you knew it was out there (and got annoyed) :lol: .

I know, it was put in bold as it would've in all likelihood been banlisted...IIRC it's only that, Silly Boy and Say It which would've been banlisted at the time?

I'm still annoyed that Bev is banned. How else am I meant to get people to pay attention to her?! That's the reason I joined this contest. :lol: Sad times. I basically agree with Peter, but I'm outnumbered.

 

I think this ban is so much more than just that list of highlighted songs. It'll also create a pretense of people being cautious to send songs that might be added to the Radio 1 playlist, but eventually aren't. MPHO with "Box N Locks" is an example, I actually think that may have been banned in the end. (I can't remember when Radio 1 added it) Going back, I'd be surprised if Lewis sent it as it was on the release schedule and ended up being played by Radio 1. The risk of if happening again might be too much now. Let's use another example. If Sabrina Washington - "OMG" leaks in time, I wouldn't be sure whether to send it. Who can tell if Radio 1 will support it? It's on the release schedule, but it's not clear whether they'll play it. Yes, it could be an exception, but we can't be making too many of those or it looks a bit dictatorial.

 

I dunno, I'm just bored of this at the moment. It seems the rules are bent to suit the people making them. A year ago it was "don't ban Eurovision NF rejects! people should be able to enter whatever they like most at the time! :(" and now it's "well, actually, you can't send anything from the Radio 1 Playlist, MTV Hits Playlist, current albums of artists with an AF, the iTunes top 40 or Billboard chart. oh and any other songs we deem inappropriate." -_-

 

I love how when it's my turn to host, we always have a big change. :lol: VII - two semi finals for the first time. XV - Eurovision NF drama, last contest they were banned. XXIV - the start of this new rule.

 

The reservation thread will open when I decide. :)

I am also quite annoyed that Bev is banned, but ultimately then going on to say 'all AFs except X, Y and Z are banned' would've been one exception too far, and pure cannon fodder to the opposition.

 

As I've said, people can't be counting on leeway :P