Posted February 1, 201015 yr FA silent on John Terry's future as England captain Source BBC News - Jan 30th The Football Association has declined to comment on the future of John Terry as England captain in the wake of allegations over his private life. Terry has been named in the media as allegedly having an affair with the ex-girlfriend of his former Chelsea and England team-mate Wayne Bridge. Newspaper reports claim Terry, 29, may be stripped of the England captaincy only four months before the World Cup. But an FA spokesman told BBC Sport: "We have no comment to make." Terry had won a gagging order last week preventing the public learning about an alleged affair, but the injunction was lifted by the High Court on Friday. And national newspapers named the father-of-two, who is married to Toni Poole, in their Saturday editions as having a relationship with model Vanessa Perroncel, 28. Terry scored the winner in Chelsea's 2-1 win over Bolton on Saturday and after the match manager Carlo Ancelotti confirmed he would remain club captain. England's next match is a friendly against Egypt at Wembley on 3 March, and it is unlikely coach Fabio Capello will discuss Terry's position before then. Terry is set go to South Africa as captain, while Bridge, who now plays for Manchester City, is also likely to be selected in Capello's squad as understudy to another former Chelsea team-mate, Ashley Cole. Bridge, 29, has not played since early December when he was injured playing against Chelsea. In a statement issued by his lawyer, the left-back said: "I have read the press reporting in the last two days. The reports deal with matters which are of a deeply personal and private nature. "My primary concern is the welfare of my son. Therefore, I intend to make no comment whatsoever either now or in the future about these reports and ask that my privacy is respected." BBC Sport understands Capello, who is currently out of the country, is aware of the situation and will make any decision over Terry's future as England captain. But speaking on Saturday's Football Focus on BBC One, former England defenders Lee Dixon and Martin Keown suggested Terry will not be captain by the time the World Cup comes around. Keown said: "Terry is a big, big player, but these indiscretions really need to be dealt with by Capello. He is a great disciplinarian and I think this is a chance for him to show that." Dixon added: 'The big question is if it's not Terry then who will it be? If Rio Ferdinand doesn't make it through injury, then that's up for grabs as well." Meanwhile, celebrity publicist Max Clifford told the BBC the episode was potentially damaging for Terry's commercial endorsements, but he believed football supporters would not object to his private conduct as long as he was playing well. Terry, who has earned 59 caps for his country and succeeded David Beckham as England captain in August 2006, successfully led England to this year's World Cup finals after finishing top of their qualification group. And despite the weekend's headlines, Terry scored the winner in Chelsea's 2-1 win over Burnley on Saturday evening. Manchester United defender Ferdinand is currently England's vice-captain. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Well, if you ask me, the man is an absolute stinking hypocrite..... Put it this way, this is a guy who has made a fortune out of perpetuating a "Family Man" image, a man who was more than happy to accept an award for "Father of the Year", a man who was more than happy to allow Hello Magazine to publicise his image as a "Family Man" also, an image that Hello paid him rather handsomely for if I recall... Such a man cannot then be allowed to cry "foul" when he gets found out with his "hand in the cookie jar" so to speak..... He had some fukkin' nerve getting that injunction to be honest... This is a man who is happy to play the media game when it suits him, but shrinks away when they find out stuff he doesn't want to be publicised.... Well, sorry mate, live by the sword, die by it IMO..... "Father of the Year"??? What a joke, he shags another Englang players' girlfriend, gets her pregnant, and then talks her into having an abortion... FAMILY MAN????? ARE YOU TAKIN' THE p*** TERRY???? Surely this is as big an act of hypocrisy as John Major going on about "Victorian Values" and "Back to Basics" all the while shagging Edwina Currie...... :rolleyes: Should he lose his Captaincy...? Yes, IMO, because he's a hypocrite who plays the media when it suits him and because he falsely presents himself as a moral family man for the press, and also because I very much doubt he even has the respect of most of the England squad now anyway, particularly Wayne Bridge I would imagine.... How can such a man possibly a positive role model for young children....? If the FA wants (as it claims) to present a family and positive image for the game and take it out of the realm of the louts and the racists who have plagued the game over the years, than John Terry needs to go, and go quickly in my view.....
February 1, 201015 yr Presented as a family man or not, the question begs how does his private life affect his ability to play football? He led Chelsea's team well on Saturday scoring the winning goal and he DOES a good job as England captain... If someone in a normal job was found to be having an affair with one of his friends partners would HE be sacked? Probably not..
February 1, 201015 yr FA silent on John Terry's future as England captain Source BBC News - Jan 30th The Football Association has declined to comment on the future of John Terry as England captain in the wake of allegations over his private life. Terry has been named in the media as allegedly having an affair with the ex-girlfriend of his former Chelsea and England team-mate Wayne Bridge. Newspaper reports claim Terry, 29, may be stripped of the England captaincy only four months before the World Cup. But an FA spokesman told BBC Sport: "We have no comment to make." Terry had won a gagging order last week preventing the public learning about an alleged affair, but the injunction was lifted by the High Court on Friday. And national newspapers named the father-of-two, who is married to Toni Poole, in their Saturday editions as having a relationship with model Vanessa Perroncel, 28. Terry scored the winner in Chelsea's 2-1 win over Bolton on Saturday and after the match manager Carlo Ancelotti confirmed he would remain club captain. England's next match is a friendly against Egypt at Wembley on 3 March, and it is unlikely coach Fabio Capello will discuss Terry's position before then. Terry is set go to South Africa as captain, while Bridge, who now plays for Manchester City, is also likely to be selected in Capello's squad as understudy to another former Chelsea team-mate, Ashley Cole. Bridge, 29, has not played since early December when he was injured playing against Chelsea. In a statement issued by his lawyer, the left-back said: "I have read the press reporting in the last two days. The reports deal with matters which are of a deeply personal and private nature. "My primary concern is the welfare of my son. Therefore, I intend to make no comment whatsoever either now or in the future about these reports and ask that my privacy is respected." BBC Sport understands Capello, who is currently out of the country, is aware of the situation and will make any decision over Terry's future as England captain. But speaking on Saturday's Football Focus on BBC One, former England defenders Lee Dixon and Martin Keown suggested Terry will not be captain by the time the World Cup comes around. Keown said: "Terry is a big, big player, but these indiscretions really need to be dealt with by Capello. He is a great disciplinarian and I think this is a chance for him to show that." Dixon added: 'The big question is if it's not Terry then who will it be? If Rio Ferdinand doesn't make it through injury, then that's up for grabs as well." Meanwhile, celebrity publicist Max Clifford told the BBC the episode was potentially damaging for Terry's commercial endorsements, but he believed football supporters would not object to his private conduct as long as he was playing well. Terry, who has earned 59 caps for his country and succeeded David Beckham as England captain in August 2006, successfully led England to this year's World Cup finals after finishing top of their qualification group. And despite the weekend's headlines, Terry scored the winner in Chelsea's 2-1 win over Burnley on Saturday evening. Manchester United defender Ferdinand is currently England's vice-captain. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Well, if you ask me, the man is an absolute stinking hypocrite..... Put it this way, this is a guy who has made a fortune out of perpetuating a "Family Man" image, a man who was more than happy to accept an award for "Father of the Year", a man who was more than happy to allow Hello Magazine to publicise his image as a "Family Man" also, an image that Hello paid him rather handsomely for if I recall... Such a man cannot then be allowed to cry "foul" when he gets found out with his "hand in the cookie jar" so to speak..... He had some fukkin' nerve getting that injunction to be honest... This is a man who is happy to play the media game when it suits him, but shrinks away when they find out stuff he doesn't want to be publicised.... Well, sorry mate, live by the sword, die by it IMO..... "Father of the Year"??? What a joke, he shags another Englang players' girlfriend, gets her pregnant, and then talks her into having an abortion... FAMILY MAN????? ARE YOU TAKIN' THE p*** TERRY???? Surely this is as big an act of hypocrisy as John Major going on about "Victorian Values" and "Back to Basics" all the while shagging Edwina Currie...... :rolleyes: Should he lose his Captaincy...? Yes, IMO, because he's a hypocrite who plays the media when it suits him and because he falsely presents himself as a moral family man for the press, and also because I very much doubt he even has the respect of most of the England squad now anyway, particularly Wayne Bridge I would imagine.... How can such a man possibly a positive role model for young children....? If the FA wants (as it claims) to present a family and positive image for the game and take it out of the realm of the louts and the racists who have plagued the game over the years, than John Terry needs to go, and go quickly in my view..... He should keep his job, his job is to play good football not preach family values Who is the alternatives as captain ? Gerrard ? - beats up a dj when drunk Lampard ? - taunting Americans at Heathrow hotel on night of 9/11 and having no fewer than 3 affairs Ferdinand ? - convicted drunk driver, served a ban for drugs, recently assaulted a player getting a 4 match ban for his troubles Rooney ? - slept with prostitutes, hot tempered Cole ? - Long history of motoring convictions and known for having unusual uses for mobile phones See my point ? Terry is a cnut but the alternatives as captain are as bad if not worse
February 1, 201015 yr I think it's evident he's going to be stripped of his captaincy. The silence from around the England campsite puts a toll on everything. Regardless of what John Terry does in his spare time, it actually would not suprise me if he stepped down from being captain. The only other problem, is who would be England's next captain? I hope to God it's not Rooney, but I have a feeling it will be. Gerrard is not a good captain imo, and I don't think Rio Ferdinand deserves it as he's done much more things than John Terry. My own personal choice would be Gareth Barry, but I don't see it happening... Another question that needs to be asked, is if we were not five months away from a World Cup, would there be this much fuss about the issue from the media? Of course not...
February 1, 201015 yr Author He should keep his job, his job is to play good football not preach family values Who is the alternatives as captain ? Gerrard ? - beats up a dj when drunk Lampard ? - taunting Americans at Heathrow hotel on night of 9/11 and having no fewer than 3 affairs Ferdinand ? - convicted drunk driver, served a ban for drugs, recently assaulted a player getting a 4 match ban for his troubles Rooney ? - slept with prostitutes, hot tempered Cole ? - Long history of motoring convictions and known for having unusual uses for mobile phones See my point ? Terry is a cnut but the alternatives as captain are as bad if not worse Well, you've certainly convinced me that English footballers leave a lot to be desired :lol: (well, footballers in general really..), but you've not convinced me that he deserves to keep onto his Captaincy, and I certainly dont believe he should now be allowed to call "foul" on the press attention when he has very clearly financially benefitted from putting across a certain image of himself.... I'm sorry, but if you portray an image as a Family Man, and it's a lie, then fukk you if you get found out.... -_-
February 1, 201015 yr Author Presented as a family man or not, the question begs how does his private life affect his ability to play football? He led Chelsea's team well on Saturday scoring the winning goal and he DOES a good job as England captain... If someone in a normal job was found to be having an affair with one of his friends partners would HE be sacked? Probably not.. Does the average person make thousands and thousands of pounds off newspapers and magazines portraying an image which is a sham....? No, they dont do they.... -_- THAT is the difference between the average working man and John Terry.....
February 1, 201015 yr Does the average person make thousands and thousands of pounds off newspapers and magazines portraying an image which is a sham....? No, they dont do they.... -_- THAT is the difference between the average working man and John Terry..... He has never made public statements preaching family values or anything, if he had that's a different matter but he has hid his wife away from the glare of the press unlike Beckham and Rooney for instance Yeah he got dad of the year award but he didn't nominate himself for it or promote himself to win the award I do feel this is a bit of a media witchhunt, Beckham while a married dad with kids was sending Rebecca Loos obscene texts and there were not calls to dump him and there was no media witchhunt so if Beckham is allowed to get away with it so should Terry
February 1, 201015 yr I don't think he should be stripped of his captaincy (although it seems he will be... they'll probably let him announce that he's "decided" to step down so he can save some face). Private life shouldn't factor into the field. I do agree with you, though, that an injunction should never have been granted, and that, considering he's built a lot of his public image on being a family man, this story is in the public interest and we had a right to know. But football is a different arena to the celebrity PR arena of Heat and Hello; his private life applies to the latter but not to the former.
February 1, 201015 yr He has never made public statements preaching family values or anything, if he had that's a different matter but he has hid his wife away from the glare of the press unlike Beckham and Rooney for instance Yeah he got dad of the year award but he didn't nominate himself for it or promote himself to win the award I do feel this is a bit of a media witchhunt, Beckham while a married dad with kids was sending Rebecca Loos obscene texts and there were not calls to dump him and there was no media witchhunt so if Beckham is allowed to get away with it so should Terry David Beckham was not having an affair with a team mates wife, then took out a (failed) court injunction to silence the media to hide the fact, that is the colossal difference. But then again you are a huge fan of that disgusting fascist and former F1 supremo Max Moseley. Who kept his sordid behaviour and cheating on his wife out of the public eye for 25 years...
February 1, 201015 yr David Beckham was not having an affair with a team mates wife, then took out a (failed) court injunction to silence the media to hide the fact, that is the colossal difference. But then again you are a huge fan of that disgusting fascist and former F1 supremo Max Moseley. Who kept his sordid behaviour and cheating on his wife out of the public eye for 25 years... Mosley was different, he has lived apart from his wife for a long time, they were legally married but had not shared a bed in 25 years, I felt and still do that his private life as is anyone's as long as it doesn't involve sex with kids, dead bodies or animals is one's own private business, I am anything but a Mosley fanboy I was relieved when he resigned but I wanted him out for the mess he made of F1 not for his private business
February 1, 201015 yr As an England fan I have to say no. Even though he's done this, he's by far the standout candidate for England captain. I watched Chelsea's match against Burnley at the weekend and he was impeccable, showed all the qualities needed to be England captain. If you were the punish every role model celebrity who didn't live a squeaky clean lifestyle there wouldn't be many left. I imagine both Fabio Capello and John Terry both know he should still be captain, however due to public pressure he'll resign and Fabio Capello won't dare not to accept it. I also think it could cost England any chance of winning the World Cup, because the media witch hunt will be so huge they'll have effectively made him unable to have a place in the squad. They'll then probably say he should've been our captain... :rolleyes:
February 1, 201015 yr As an England fan I have to say no. Even though he's done this, he's by far the standout candidate for England captain. I watched Chelsea's match against Burnley at the weekend and he was impeccable, showed all the qualities needed to be England captain. If you were the punish every role model celebrity who didn't live a squeaky clean lifestyle there wouldn't be many left. I imagine both Fabio Capello and John Terry both know he should still be captain, however due to public pressure he'll resign and Fabio Capello won't dare not to accept it. I also think it could cost England any chance of winning the World Cup, because the media witch hunt will be so huge they'll have effectively made him unable to have a place in the squad. They'll then probably say he should've been our captain... :rolleyes: I agree, the Stanley Matthews days are long since gone, it is almost expected of a footballer these days that they are going to be a bit of a cnut either on or off the field or both, I just see this as par for the course Terry is probably the best defender in the world right now along with possibly Vidic so a fully focused Terry is essential to England's prospects so if the press want England to win the world cup then they are going wrong way about it
February 1, 201015 yr I agree, the Stanley Matthews days are long since gone, it is almost expected of a footballer these days that they are going to be a bit of a cnut either on or off the field or both, I just see this as par for the course Terry is probably the best defender in the world right now along with possibly Vidic so a fully focused Terry is essential to England's prospects so if the press want England to win the world cup then they are going wrong way about it Yes, but the witch hunt is lead by the media owned by an Australian billionaire who lives in the USA. Unfortunately, my view is that I could not care what John Terry had done short of rape, murder or sleeping with children, ...... except sleeping with an England and former Chelsea team mates wife, as he can't possibly expect to command the respect and authority of his team mates and colleagues after letting them down in this manner. Therefore, for me it is a total no brainer that he should resign as captain, but remain a very key component of the team for the World Cup.
February 1, 201015 yr Yes, but the witch hunt is lead by the media owned by an Australian billionaire who lives in the USA. Unfortunately, my view is that I could not care what John Terry had done short of rape, murder or sleeping with children, ...... except sleeping with an England and former Chelsea team mates wife, as he can't possibly expect to command the respect and authority of his team mates and colleagues after letting them down in this manner. Therefore, for me it is a total no brainer that he should resign as captain, but remain a very key component of the team for the World Cup. Depends on the circumstances We are all assuming that Bridge and his wife had a rock solid marriage till she shagged Terry, they could have been estranged at the time or whatever so we don't know the events that lead up to it Terry is hardly good looking and at City Bridge would be on a 6 figure a week salary so she neither went with Terry for looks or money so if their marriage was already heavily on the rocks before Terry then there is mitigation even if as a married man Terry should have known better but again we don't know they had a happy marriage
February 1, 201015 yr THIS is why we never win a tournament :rolleyes: There is always a big media storm about something that either distracts the players or puts pressure on them. PLENTY of players have had all these 'scandals' that have NOTHING TO DO WITH FOOTBALL and have pulled through and let their FOOTBALL do the talking. I remember how I felt when Eric Cantona did the karate kick on the Crystal Palace (and tbf that was in a football stadium where TV cameras were and everything) but when he came back he let his football do the talking and is still one of my all time favourite players. As people have said in here all the other candidates apart from Gareth Barry have had scandals against them but the thing is if Hargreaves does come back then will he even be in the team? There is even calls in the media for Beckham to get it back when he's not even gonna start. :rolleyes: Rooney will get it in the future but he's not ready yet and we don't need to give the burden right now but especially after the game he had on Saturday I think JT needs to keep the captaincy for the sake of the FOOTBALL TEAM. (yeah remember it's a different thing than his or anyone else's bloody personal life!)
February 1, 201015 yr Normally I would agree that it wouldn't be fair to punish Terry in his career, for what he has done off-field. However, in this situation, the role of captain requires him to command the respect of his team-mates. Is he really going to have this now?
February 2, 201015 yr Kicked out of the England squad or lose his captaincy for the sake of something he did in private? Yeah, he did nothing to stop the 'family man' image, but did he really have much control (he's hardly going to come out and say 'oh no, don't say that, I'm having an affair at the moment' is he? :rolleyes:) over what the press were saying? And whether he has Wayne Bridge's respect or not has nothing to do with his ability to lead an England team, seeing as Bridge hasn't even played for England since 2007...he should certainly remain captain despite the horrific witch-hunt of the newspapers who seem to want to have it both ways with the England team - to knock them down then moan mercilessly when they've been knocked down!
February 2, 201015 yr Author Kicked out of the England squad or lose his captaincy for the sake of something he did in private? Yeah, he did nothing to stop the 'family man' image, but did he really have much control (he's hardly going to come out and say 'oh no, don't say that, I'm having an affair at the moment' is he? :rolleyes:) over what the press were saying? Oh come on Tyron.. He got paid $h!tloads from Hello magazine for photos of his wedding, and he gladly accepted the "Father of the Year" award (which he had the right to knock back and say "thanks, but no thanks"), so he WAS portraying an image of himself in a certain way, just like Beckham, just like Rooney, he's almost certainly played the media "game"... What kind of husband or indeed FATHER then betrays his family by first having an affair with a team-mate's girlfriend and then actually co-ercing her to have and abortion...? "Dad of the Year"!!?? Yeah, right.... We kick the arses of Politicians who present themselves to the media and to the country in one way and then later on get exposed as liars and hypocrites, so I think that "celebs" such as Terry who play the media game should also get a good kicking when they're found out.... The Media is not a tap mate, you cant just turn it on or off when it suits.... And it HAS suited him in the past to play the game, and not just on the pitch.... Let's just compare footballers to Olympic Athletes shall we...? Footballers - guilty of absolute shocking behaviour, Athletes - impeccable sportspersons in competition, and real role-models off the track... No competition as to who really deserves the country's respect in my view.....
February 2, 201015 yr Author i dont care, its footy and i hate footy. So, you dont think there's a principle involved here....?
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