What an appalling way to end this storyline although I guess I should've seen it coming, it hasn't been enjoyable since John got himself admitted after that breakdown. What was a comedy of errors became just another depressing weight of misery. Ideally John would've got away with all of his crimes but would've been hit by a piano falling from a roof or something similarly unlikely and more fitting with the majority of the storyline.

What an appalling way to end this storyline although I guess I should've seen it coming, it hasn't been enjoyable since John got himself admitted after that breakdown. What was a comedy of errors became just another depressing weight of misery. Ideally John would've got away with all of his crimes but would've been hit by a piano falling from a roof or something similarly unlikely and more fitting with the majority of the storyline.

 

Actually Jark - as improbable and ridiculous as it is - the Stape storyline is far more enjoyable than the tired old crap EE is dragging out with boring old Dot (with June Brown's enduring Albert Steptoe impression and her woeful acting) wondering what to do with Jim! Funny how Dot has all the time in the world to deal with 'other people's worries - but the minute her nearest and dearest (Jim I think his name is) needs her - she can't wait to shove him off to a home. THIS is unbelievable - someone like Dot would die first rather than give up on someone (the viewer had been led to believe) was the love her life.

 

The only person in Corrie I want to see gone yesterday - is the load of old cobblers that is Becky.

 

Kath

Edited May 25, 201114 yr by Kathyp

Actually Jark - as improbable and ridiculous as it is - the Stape storyline is far more enjoyable than the tired old crap EE is dragging out with boring old Dot (with June Brown's enduring Albert Steptoe impression and her woeful acting) wondering what to do with Jim! Funny how Dot has all the time in the world to deal with 'other people's worries - but the minute her nearest and dearest (Jim I think his name is) needs her - she can't wait to shove him off to a home. THIS is unbelievable - someone like Dot would die first rather than give up on someone (the viewer had been led to believe) was the love her life.

And this has what to do with Dot and EastEnders? We're talking about the John Stape storyline here. If the only way you can defend it is to drag other soaps into your argument then clearly it doesn't stand up on its own merits. I don't know why you always do this... yes we are all too aware that you can't stand June Brown. But regardless my point still stands that the Stape spoiler represents an inappropriately miserable end to what began as an enjoyable outlandish storyline.

 

ps. the episode last night received mass praise all over DS, facebook, twitter etc. Clearly not everybody shares your viewpoint. I personally have yet to watch but June Brown has serious acting chops when the moment requires it and as Dot is one of my favourite characters and the episode also heavily features the Brannings I doubt I'll be disappointed.

 

ps. the episode last night received mass praise all over DS, facebook, twitter etc. Clearly not everybody shares your viewpoint.

 

I don't care what DS, Facebook, Twitter, etc say - the EE episode with Dot was absolute crap - and largely due to Brown's acting (which was never up to much anyway). I was ironing in the next room and went in when I heard her awful wailing and over-acting and must admit - laughed my socks off. Hubby was sat there enjoying it (but he watches Hollyoaks as well and thinks that's great). He does admit - he thinks EE is a load of old sh/te too - but he enjoys it without eulogising it.

 

And as for viewpoints - not everyone shares yours about the Stape storyline. Most people I know who watch Corrie love the Stape storyline - yes we know its improbable, ridiculous, and the acting isn't all that good - but the comedy in it is spot-on. That's what most people love about Corrie - the comedy - even in its most black-humoured situations.

 

And to be honest Jark I don't undersatnd how you only come into the the Corrie forum to have a side-swipe at it. You'll notice I've not set foot in the EE forum for absolutely ages as I haven't ONE solitary good comment to make about it. I look in there from time to time and am tempted to go in and comment on the awful acting, awful scripts, and its godawful leaden-attempts at comedy etc ... but I don't.

Edited May 25, 201114 yr by Kathyp

Most people I know who watch Corrie love the Stape storyline - yes we know its improbable, ridiculous, and the acting isn't all that good - but the comedy in it is spot-on. That's what most people love about Corrie - the comedy - even in its most black-humoured situations.

But you have completely misunderstood my criticism (or just glossed over it, I'm not sure). Like I said the storyline up to the point of John being admitted into a psych ward for his breakdown was comedic, a farce in the true (positive) sense of the word. All of the stuff with Charlotte Hoyle and her parents at Christmas dinner etc was hilarious. But then they suddenly turned it into a dark and depressing storyline with no comedic moments, presumably because they thought John couldn't be seen to keep getting away with his crimes without redemption. This is the problem with Corrie generally at the minute - nothing is true to the show. Characters do silly things without any proper motivation at all. All of the women are incredibly nasty/bitter at the minute (Becky, Sally, even Carla). Phil Collinson cannot write a strong woman to save his life - which is unfortunate since that's the one thing Corrie is best known for! Thing back to the likes of Elsie Tanner and then compare and contrast with the current crop of leading women who go around spewing unpleasantries at one another and their poor suffering menfolk.

 

Anyway back to my original point - the improbability of it was exactly what made the storyline so good to begin with. What I was saying was that it should've continued in that vain (for example John finding an unlikely way to avoid the heat of the law - or amateur sleuth Chesney Brown) instead of going down a tedious, wrist-slitting spiral of descent route.

 

I suspect you'll ignore everything I've just said because you're convinced I only say these things because I'm an EastEnders fan but actually it's because I'm a soap fan that I feel qualified to point out when something is going disastrously wrong.

 

But you have completely misunderstood my criticism (or just glossed over it, I'm not sure). Like I said the storyline up to the point of John being admitted into a psych ward for his breakdown was comedic, a farce in the true (positive) sense of the word. All of the stuff with Charlotte Hoyle and her parents at Christmas dinner etc was hilarious. But then they suddenly turned it into a dark and depressing storyline with no comedic moments, presumably because they thought John couldn't be seen to keep getting away with his crimes without redemption. This is the problem with Corrie generally at the minute - nothing is true to the show. Characters do silly things without any proper motivation at all. All of the women are incredibly nasty/bitter at the minute (Becky, Sally, even Carla). Phil Collinson cannot write a strong woman to save his life - which is unfortunate since that's the one thing Corrie is best known for! Thing back to the likes of Elsie Tanner and then compare and contrast with the current crop of leading women who go around spewing unpleasantries at one another and their poor suffering menfolk.

 

Anyway back to my original point - the improbability of it was exactly what made the storyline so good to begin with. What I was saying was that it should've continued in that vain (for example John finding an unlikely way to avoid the heat of the law - or amateur sleuth Chesney Brown) instead of going down a tedious, wrist-slitting spiral of descent route.

 

I suspect you'll ignore everything I've just said because you're convinced I only say these things because I'm an EastEnders fan but actually it's because I'm a soap fan that I feel qualified to point out when something is going disastrously wrong.

 

 

I disagree - for me the WHOLE Stape storyline has been comedic - a touch of black humour certainly - but never anything less than comedic.

 

Back to the 'strong northern women' argument. I agree - to some extent this has weakened of late ... but Collinson isn't doing too bad a job. Sally's character has been resolutely strong throughout (Sally Dynevor has been woefully overlooked lately for her contributions - in favour of the 'doe-eyed' Jane Danson - who for me has never been anything more than adequate).

 

Jark I do have to point out that you DO (only) ever come into this forum to have a side-swipe at Corrie (I could for any number of reasons do the same in the EE forum but I've been warned off - by you - so I don't). And you say you're a soap fan - you're not - your an EE fan. I saw your post where you gloated that EE beat Corrie at the BAFTA's - I wanted to comment - but I didn't as the post was in its own forum). Don't be ashamed - I'm a Corrie fan and dislike Eastenders intensely (I could take the awful storylines if only the comedy was in tune - but its dated and sh/te). I realise that you're an EE fan and dislike Corrie intensely. Neither of us is going to budge from our standpoint.

 

Kath

Jark I do have to point out that you DO (only) ever come into this forum to have a side-swipe at Corrie (I could for any number of reasons do the same in the EE forum but I've been warned off - by you - so I don't). And you say you're a soap fan - you're not - your an EE fan. I saw your post where you gloated that EE beat Corrie at the BAFTA's - I wanted to comment - but I didn't as the post was in its own forum). Don't be ashamed - I'm a Corrie fan and dislike Eastenders intensely (I could take the awful storylines if only the comedy was in tune - but its dated and sh/te). I realise that you're an EE fan and dislike Corrie intensely. Neither of us is going to budge from our standpoint.

Well I'm sorry but you are wrong. I do like Corrie and I am capable of being objective but it just isn't good on any count at the minute. That's how I feel. I thoroughly enjoyed the entire month of December but it quickly went downhill after the desperate and massively stupid return of Tracy.

 

As for 'gloating', come on... I could do a hell of a lot better than that if I was going to have a proper gloat. I just mentioned in passing that they beat Corrie. And I do praise the show when it deserves it. You'll notice this is my first post in this topic in ages because it hasn't deserved praise lately hence I haven't been coming in here but that Stape spoiler caught my attention and I felt it needed saying just how wrong they're getting it. I'm not going to not say that and you're perfectly welcome to make your opinions known in the EE forum if you wish but in past when you've had them challenged you've wrongly taken that as a sign that nobody wants to hear your viewpoints. But as I say if you're prepared to be challenged (as I am, happily, on this matter) then you should say what you think.

Well I'm sorry but you are wrong. I do like Corrie and I am capable of being objective but it just isn't good on any count at the minute. That's how I feel. I thoroughly enjoyed the entire month of December but it quickly went downhill after the desperate and massively stupid return of Tracy.

 

As for 'gloating', come on... I could do a hell of a lot better than that if I was going to have a proper gloat. I just mentioned in passing that they beat Corrie. And I do praise the show when it deserves it. You'll notice this is my first post in this topic in ages because it hasn't deserved praise lately hence I haven't been coming in here but that Stape spoiler caught my attention and I felt it needed saying just how wrong they're getting it. I'm not going to not say that and you're perfectly welcome to make your opinions known in the EE forum if you wish but in past when you've had them challenged you've wrongly taken that as a sign that nobody wants to hear your viewpoints. But as I say if you're prepared to be challenged (as I am, happily, on this matter) then you should say what you think.

 

I will NEVER set foot in the EE forum again though - as I think it pointless to do so unless I have something good to say about it.

 

And Jark - you do gloat but it doesn't matter ... certain soaps have a certain set of fans. I love humour (for me it wins hands-down any day of the week) so as long as Corrie keeps on trend and is ahead of the game of EE (which it constantly is on the comedic front) I'm happy.

 

Kath

 

Kath

I think Anna is a good strong female character atm.

 

Four Coronation Street stars have today been tipped to leave the soap at the end of their current contracts.

 

Holly Quin-Ankrah, Will Thorp and Finton Flynn - who play Gray trio Cheryl, Chris and Russ - are among the cast members bowing out and they will all finish filming with the Weatherfield drama towards the end of the year, according to reports in The People and the News of the World today.

 

Meanwhile, Sacha Parkinson - better known as Sophie Webster's girlfriend Sian Powers - will reportedly depart the cobbles in early 2012.

 

The decision to write out all four characters was apparently confirmed at a recent Corrie storyline conference, where upcoming plot developments were mapped out by the soap's team.

 

In a forthcoming twist, estranged couple Cheryl and Chris are expected to reunite and leave the Street with son Russ, causing heartbreak for their new partners Lloyd Mullaney and Maria Connor.

 

 

Sian has also been tipped for heartache before her departure as The People claims that Sophie is to embark on a new relationship with Dev Alahan's daughter Amber, who is returning to the programme.

 

In the story, Amber is expected to return home from university and it soon becomes clear that she has been questioning her sexuality.

 

Craig Charles, who plays Lloyd, will also disappear from Corrie later this year, but only on a temporary basis as bosses have granted him three months off to film new episodes of Red Dwarf. His Weatherfield commitments will continue as usual once he has reprised his role as Dave Lister for the project.

 

 

I'm rather pleased that the first 3 will be leaving, pretty disappointed

Sian

seems strange, I'm sure she has alot of fans. I always liked Amber though ^_^ Will be interesting to see how Dev & Sunita react, especially when it comes to her religion etc.

Fiz is up in court next week on fraud charges. She applies for bail though. Wonder how this will pan out as regards custody of Hope as surely her fraud means a certain eventual prison sentence even if she gets bail?

Edited June 2, 201114 yr by Common Sense

Is it wrong I laughed when Fizzy-wizzy got ran over? :lol: :( Anyway, :( at

Sian leaving

Edited June 2, 201114 yr by Liаm

Is it wrong I laughed when Fizzy-wizzy got ran over?

 

 

Yes. :angry: :o

Short advert for the new family:

 

 

 

 

Michelle Collins will play Leanne's real mother, Stella.

 

Looks promising, although it won't be hard to improve on the underwhelming week that has just passed.

That ad is really good if rather EastEnders in tone. Do we think the daughter is going to be another gay character then? She's played by Catherine Tyldesey who did a short stint on Emmerdale last year. She's a properly good actress.

That ad is really good if rather EastEnders in tone. Do we think the daughter is going to be another gay character then? She's played by Catherine Tyldesey who did a short stint on Emmerdale last year. She's a properly good actress.

 

She could be. They're writing out

Sian

so she'd be a new love interest for

Soorrphie

.

 

I just think Corrie's got too ridiculous lately even for me though. Now that the Stape storyline has finished (ridiculous but entertaining) I'm going to start making the most of my summer evenings.

 

Kath

Looks promising, although it won't be hard to improve on the underwhelming week that has just passed.

I was really disappointed too. A load of hype over nothing <_< Don't get why they didn't just kill John off, it's not like he can ever return!

I was really disappointed too. A load of hype over nothing <_< Don't get why they didn't just kill John off, it's not like he can ever return!

 

It was awful. And the John thing - if they were going for a kind of Hallow'een 'bogey-man' ending - then they shouldn't have let us, the viewer, see him lying on the ground at all. As ridiculous as it was until the end - I'd rather have watched the Stape scenes over and over rather than watch the utterly boring Graeme/Zin or Becky/Whatever Comes In Becky's Way scenes that were going on. My God can Katherine Kelly over-act - I can't wait until they get shut of her ... and the actions of the character just proves why Liz McDonald was right when she said the Steve 'There's a reason why Becky can't have children'.

 

Kath

I wonder if Ken and Dreary will do anything about their living room being smashed up? Surely they won't just let her get away with that?! :huh: