June 5, 201015 yr Author That is completely idiotic. Of course that is a derogatory term for an Irishman. Your Scots mates may accept the term Jock but how many people who you do not know would accept being called that. Try going into a pub in Belfast and see how far you get calling everyone Mick. Would you like being called Yid? All completely unacceptable and derogatory. Prepare to have your post dismissed as "political correctness" by Craig. I had this conversation with him when he thought it was OK to refer to a black person as a "pickaninny".
June 5, 201015 yr Prepare to have your post dismissed as "political correctness" by Craig. I had this conversation with him when he thought it was OK to refer to a black person as a "pickaninny". He's probably too busy watching his Love Thy Neighbour boxed set.
June 6, 201015 yr Try going into a pub in Belfast and see how far you get calling everyone Mick. If you did that, there would by a 99.9% chance of getting beaten up. If you go up to a nationalist and call them a 'mick', they will take it as an insult to their heritage in a 32 state Ireland and beat you up. If you go up to a unionist and call them a 'mick', they would be insulted that you would call a British citizen a derogatory insult for an Irishman, and direct you in the direction of a nationalist, whom he insists that you call a 'mick' to your hearts content. He will then beat you up.
June 6, 201015 yr Reasons why The Dail Mail is an utterly vile paper part 112,327: Actually, Israel wasn’t tough enough Sunday Mail Editorial 6th June 2010 One minute we’re all lined up against Islamic terrorists and the Iranian regime’s wicked manipulations. The next, we’re all suddenly swallowing the propaganda of Islamist terror sympathisers and Iran’s nasty clients. Israel’s assault on the Turkish ship Mavi Marmara was a textbook example of incompetence. These people are not as brilliant as they like to claim. The ship, despite its supercargo of PC, anti-Israel, Left-wing suckers, dupes and sandal-wearers, was also seething with militant and far-from-pacifist full-time Israel-haters. If the Mossad secret service types had lived up to their legend, they would have known this. So why lower troops, one by one, into the midst of a mob of foes? Why equip them with feeble paintball guns, shroud their hands in gloves so they can’t reach their sidearms, and order them not to open fire until things get out of hand? They did this because the Israeli military let their civilised, law-governed instincts get the better of sensible cynicism. The gullibility of the reporting on this issue defies belief. This wasn’t a humanitarian convoy. The Israelis were quite willing to send on the supplies, after searching them for contraband. Masses of humanitarian supplies get through from Israel to Gaza all the time, though you wouldn’t think it to listen to the BBC. And Egypt’s Gaza border is even more restricted than Israel’s, which rather contradicts the propaganda. The people on the ships weren’t ‘activists’ but campaigners against Israel, intent on provoking a clash (I wonder if the enemies of the Jewish state, now parading their outrage all over the place, would have been more pleased, or less pleased, if nobody had died in this event?). As for poor Gaza, who really cares about its people, pawns in a savage game since 1948? The Israelis have not behaved well, and should never have seized Gaza from Egypt (which occupied the Strip illegally from 1948 to 1967, without anyone protesting). But the Iranian-backed fanatics of Hamas are far more interested in the destruction of Israel than they are in the welfare of the Gazans. And it is the cause of Iran and of Hamas that has been helped by Western public opinion in the past few days. ------------------------------------------------- :rolleyes:
June 6, 201015 yr Reasons why The Dail Mail is an utterly vile paper part 112,327: Actually, Israel wasn’t tough enough Sunday Mail Editorial 6th June 2010 One minute we’re all lined up against Islamic terrorists and the Iranian regime’s wicked manipulations. The next, we’re all suddenly swallowing the propaganda of Islamist terror sympathisers and Iran’s nasty clients. Israel’s assault on the Turkish ship Mavi Marmara was a textbook example of incompetence. These people are not as brilliant as they like to claim. The ship, despite its supercargo of PC, anti-Israel, Left-wing suckers, dupes and sandal-wearers, was also seething with militant and far-from-pacifist full-time Israel-haters. If the Mossad secret service types had lived up to their legend, they would have known this. So why lower troops, one by one, into the midst of a mob of foes? Why equip them with feeble paintball guns, shroud their hands in gloves so they can’t reach their sidearms, and order them not to open fire until things get out of hand? They did this because the Israeli military let their civilised, law-governed instincts get the better of sensible cynicism. The gullibility of the reporting on this issue defies belief. This wasn’t a humanitarian convoy. The Israelis were quite willing to send on the supplies, after searching them for contraband. Masses of humanitarian supplies get through from Israel to Gaza all the time, though you wouldn’t think it to listen to the BBC. And Egypt’s Gaza border is even more restricted than Israel’s, which rather contradicts the propaganda. The people on the ships weren’t ‘activists’ but campaigners against Israel, intent on provoking a clash (I wonder if the enemies of the Jewish state, now parading their outrage all over the place, would have been more pleased, or less pleased, if nobody had died in this event?). As for poor Gaza, who really cares about its people, pawns in a savage game since 1948? The Israelis have not behaved well, and should never have seized Gaza from Egypt (which occupied the Strip illegally from 1948 to 1967, without anyone protesting). But the Iranian-backed fanatics of Hamas are far more interested in the destruction of Israel than they are in the welfare of the Gazans. And it is the cause of Iran and of Hamas that has been helped by Western public opinion in the past few days. ------------------------------------------------- :rolleyes: I have to agree with that editorial tbh particularly the type of people on board and the description of Hamas, both of them were spot on tbh Plus they are spot on with the bit about the aid, Israel deliver 15m tons a WEEK to Gaza, this was just thugs and savages after a ruck with Israel and they got it Part of me wishes they had done what the French did with Rainbow warrior and sunk the ship, international outrage yes but would have sent a clear signal to other lefties that fancied a ruck in the future
June 6, 201015 yr LOL. Left-wing suckers? The Daily Mail have just proved that they, the right-wing, are completely incompetent. It seems that they just throw these "facts" into their articles without even checking if they're facts... I'm not even continuing this because there is no point. Why people would believe the $h!t that tabloids feed them is beyond me.
June 7, 201015 yr LOL. Left-wing suckers? The Daily Mail have just proved that they, the right-wing, are completely incompetent. It seems that they just throw these "facts" into their articles without even checking if they're facts... I'm not even continuing this because there is no point. Why people would believe the $h!t that tabloids feed them is beyond me. Only this morning 6 Palestinian terrorists tried to launch an attack on Israel creeping in what they thought would be un-noticed to kill Israelis but Israel were too smart for them and killed the lot
June 7, 201015 yr Only this morning 6 Palestinian terrorists tried to launch an attack on Israel creeping in what they thought would be un-noticed to kill Israelis but Israel were too smart for them and killed the lot celebrating killing is getting close to having another warning, or even ban... ive never once read in here celebrating deaths of the taliban forces by us brits, behave.
June 7, 201015 yr celebrating killing is getting close to having another warning, or even ban... ive never once read in here celebrating deaths of the taliban forces by us brits, behave. They were on a mission to commit mass murder though, I don't see anything wrong in celebrating the failure of their mission, live by the sword die by the sword
June 7, 201015 yr They were on a mission to commit mass murder though, I don't see anything wrong in celebrating the failure of their mission, live by the sword die by the sword Allegedly. It's a little bit difficult to hear their side isn't it?
June 7, 201015 yr Stopping an infiltration by (alleged) terrorists is one thing but this is completely different to the illegal activities that the Israeli government have been engaged in recently.
June 7, 201015 yr Only this morning 6 Palestinian terrorists tried to launch an attack on Israel creeping in what they thought would be un-noticed to kill Israelis but Israel were too smart for them and killed the lot What's your point? You acknowledge that the people that were killed today were terrorists, but you probably deny that all of those thousands of civilians killed by Israel over the last ten years were actually innocent. Does that not set alarm bells off in your head? Edited June 7, 201015 yr by Cal
June 7, 201015 yr What's your point? You acknowledge that the people that were killed today were terrorists, but you probably deny that all of those thousands of civilians killed by Israel over the last ten years were actually innocent. Does that not set alarm bells off in your head? No citizens who are not terrorists are TARGETED by Israeli forces, Palestinian terrorists are notorious for using human shields so 20 can get killed along with the terrorist or some civilians can get caught in crossfire or some twats can find it funny to throw rocks at soldiers so inevitably there is civilian casualties but they are not the target, terrorists are If a terrorist holes up in a building with 30 hostages/human shields does it make sense to just let him live and leave him alone to kill Israelis ? course not, it is necessary to still blow up the building
June 7, 201015 yr What I would do if I was Netanyahu is bring things to a head, I would launch a full scale invasion of Gaza and West Bank and give every Palestinian and leftie activist 7 days to leave Gaza and West Bank and guarantee the safety of those that do so, anyone who does not leave after 7 days would be assumed to be an enemy combatant and arrested or shot. The Palestinian problem needs addressing once and for all
June 7, 201015 yr What I would do if I was Netanyahu is bring things to a head, I would launch a full scale invasion of Gaza and West Bank and give every Palestinian and leftie activist 7 days to leave Gaza and West Bank and guarantee the safety of those that do so, anyone who does not leave after 7 days would be assumed to be an enemy combatant and arrested or shot. The Palestinian problem needs addressing once and for all Well maybe that would finally force the US to stop funding Israel. Why should Palestinians leave the West Bank? It's their home. It may be a bit of a $h!t-hole at the moment but that's down to Israel. Where exactly do you expect them to go? Are you going to offer to put a few of them up in your house? Still, if you'd be proud to have your name mentioned in the same breath as Stalin, Hitler, Pol Pot and Saddam Hussein, that's your choice.
June 7, 201015 yr Well maybe that would finally force the US to stop funding Israel. Why should Palestinians leave the West Bank? It's their home. It may be a bit of a $h!t-hole at the moment but that's down to Israel. Where exactly do you expect them to go? Are you going to offer to put a few of them up in your house? Still, if you'd be proud to have your name mentioned in the same breath as Stalin, Hitler, Pol Pot and Saddam Hussein, that's your choice. They could easily go to Egypt and Jordan for example Unfair to compare with those men, no one need die, 7 days is quite sufficient time As for the US no chance, jewish money was pulled out of America and jewish run/owned businesses shut down Hollywood would die overnight, the movie industry would cease to exist virtually as would the media as would most of the banking system and much more, jews have America in its pocket $ wise
June 7, 201015 yr Well maybe that would finally force the US to stop funding Israel. Why should Palestinians leave the West Bank? It's their home. It may be a bit of a $h!t-hole at the moment but that's down to Israel. Where exactly do you expect them to go? Are you going to offer to put a few of them up in your house? Still, if you'd be proud to have your name mentioned in the same breath as Stalin, Hitler, Pol Pot and Saddam Hussein, that's your choice. Constant tension with Israel, West Bank being used to fire rockets into Israeli cities, strong links with Iran (Iran today offering to escort aid ships for example), Hamas links with Iran and Al Qaeda etc I regard Palestine as a rogue terrorist state and until all people are moved out of the West Bank and Gaza Israeli citizens won't be able to live in safety
June 7, 201015 yr They were on a mission to commit mass murder though, I don't see anything wrong in celebrating the failure of their mission, live by the sword die by the sword terrorists or freedom fighters?
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