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These are pulled straight from the raw data my spreadsheet with no attempt at rounding :

 

Pos Singles Albums

1 90237 48327

2 57014 42716

3 47510 34517

4 42663 27417

5 38051 23574

 

10 25107 15793

 

15 17821 12058

 

20 14171 9627

 

30 9678 6930

 

40 6928 5164

 

50 5501 4051

 

75 3360 2615

 

100 2483 1891

 

125 1878 1476

 

150 1565 1223

 

175 1331 1034

 

200 1141 896

 

NB, without Helping Haiti's massive first week sales, the average for the #1 single would be about 72k...

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1141 is pretty high imo for 200, i reckon if you sold 1141 in Ireland you'd reach at least Top 20 if not Top 10 on a bad week

I was shocked by the sales for #1, but then I read the NB, and remembered HH. :D

 

And the gap between singles and album sales seems to be increasing more every year. To be fair, most of the people I know buy mainly sinlges.

1141 is pretty high imo for 200, i reckon if you sold 1141 in Ireland you'd reach at least Top 20 if not Top 10 on a bad week

 

In France, one week, the sales for the #1 was 1,855. But in Fance, they only count physicals. However, even including digital sales, the number-one in France often sells less than 10,000.

 

It's weird how it varies with country so much. In Japan, they have huge sales apparently.

In France, one week, the sales for the #1 was 1,855. But in Fance, they only count physicals. However, even including digital sales, the number-one in France often sells less than 10,000.

 

It's weird how it varies with country so much. In Japan, they have huge sales apparently.

Yep, 100,000 for Physicals alone & god knows how many when including Digitals.

I wonder if the the average sale for a no.1 will ever break 100k for the whole year ? The last year this happened was 2002.

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I wonder if the the average sale for a no.1 will ever break 100k for the whole year ? The last year this happened was 2002.

It looks possible for 2010. Sales will ramp up at Xmas.

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It looks possible for 2010. Sales will ramp up at Xmas.

 

Not unless they ramp up to 'Candle In The Wind' levels! :P

I thought sales for no1 singles have dropped this year. The biggest selling single has only sold 600k so far and not many records have shifted 500k this year and we are nearly halfway through the year. I think there's been a lack of decent releases out but hopefully the 2nd half of the year will change things a bit.
I thought sales for no1 singles have dropped this year. The biggest selling single has only sold 600k so far and not many records have shifted 500k this year and we are nearly halfway through the year. I think there's been a lack of decent releases out but hopefully the 2nd half of the year will change things a bit.

 

There's a few songs close to 500,000 though. OMG will easily get there soon. Rude Boy, Telephone, Empire State of Mind and Pass Out all have a shot at getting to 500,000 over the next 6 months. But yes, I think this year is not performing at the same level as last year. However, the lack of Black Eyed Peas this year is largely to blame. :lol:

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I thought sales for no1 singles have dropped this year. The biggest selling single has only sold 600k so far and not many records have shifted 500k this year and we are nearly halfway through the year. I think there's been a lack of decent releases out but hopefully the 2nd half of the year will change things a bit.

 

I suspect it's more a case of singles that lack a wider appeal...

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There's a few songs close to 500,000 though. OMG will easily get there soon. Rude Boy, Telephone, Empire State of Mind and Pass Out all have a shot at getting to 500,000 over the next 6 months. But yes, I think this year is not performing at the same level as last year.

 

Actually, that's not true - I'll sort out some 2009 position figures to compare with the 2010 ones.

 

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2009 singles sales levels for comparison :

 

Sing 2009

1 70283

2 52823

3 41488

4 36411

5 32678

 

10 21352

 

15 14913

 

20 11645

 

30 8040

 

40 5993

 

50 4719

 

75 2958

 

100 2127

 

125 1624

 

150 1332

 

175 1131

 

200 980

 

So the average #1 sales for 2010 so far are higher than 2009 at this point, even ignoring the freak huge sales for Haiti. :o

I'm surprised how well songs sell further down the chart. Even in 2002, the last big singles year before the physicals slump, I'd be surprised if the top 20 averaged over 14k and the #5s over 38k.

 

Actually, does anyone have the breakdown for 2002?

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I'm surprised how well songs sell further down the chart.

 

A lot of people are.

 

I don't have info for 2002, but AIUI, before downloads were added, the #200 used to sell only 150-200 copies a week!

I'm surprised how well songs sell further down the chart. Even in 2002, the last big singles year before the physicals slump, I'd be surprised if the top 20 averaged over 14k and the #5s over 38k.

 

Actually, does anyone have the breakdown for 2002?

Quarter 1 2002

1- 249525

5- 32925

10- 18300

20- 8700

30- 5200

40- 3250

50- 2150

75- 950

 

Quarter 2 2002

1- 125400

5- 32125

10- 19150

20- 9250

30- 5725

40- 3600

50- 2325

75- 1025

 

The no.1 sale for Quarter 1 is very high because of Pop Idol Winner Will Young massive first week sale.

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200 1141

 

Following up on this, these are the some of the estimated average sales figures (for singles) that I use for my YTD lists :

 

#250(*) ~950 copies

#300 ~750 copies

#400 ~525

#500 ~450

#1000 ~300

 

(*) Based on positions in the iTunes T1000 charts, as obviously I don't have positions in the official chart below #200. The above estimates seem to work reasonably well for keeping YTD positions in line, for songs that've dropped out of the T200.

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i remember getting excited for rachel stevens selling 10,000 and getting to #10

 

these days that would have got her to #30

 

just shows how big the sales increase has been since the digital takeover!

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