June 10, 201015 yr Tbh, part of me is kind of inclined to just let em live in a $h!t-hole of their own making... It's disgusting to me that funding is being cut to Universities and that students actually working towards building career prospects for themselves (not to mention the absolute sh!te they have to go through to even get their loans, etc on TIME rather than three months fukkin' late <_< ) are considered a "burden" to the taxpayer, whereas these absolute SCUM who seem to breed incessantly and seem to be raiseing the next generation of muggers, burglars and car thieves are being given a "red carpet" treatment by comparison, at MY EXPENSE TOO as a taxpayer.... A friend of mine said to me about my prospects of getting a Council House when I considered putting myself on a waiting list - "you're a single bloke without a kid, you've no chance.....". Surely THAT is discrimination..... -_- Nah, fukk em, if cuts are to be made, I want them to be made to the Chavs who do nothing, not to hard working students (particularly disabled students who have to overcome all sorts of adversity and STILL get mucked around by this fukked-up system...) who actually DO have some ambition.... i agree, its just that i cant see the state allowing a return to victorian values... I HOPE YOURE SATISFIED THATCHER! .... sorry i couldnt resist quoting rik! lol
June 10, 201015 yr ... It's disgusting to me that funding is being cut to Universities and that students actually working towards building career prospects for themselves (not to mention the absolute sh!te they have to go through to even get their loans, etc on TIME rather than three months fukkin' late <_< ) are considered a "burden" to the taxpayer, whereas these absolute SCUM who seem to breed incessantly and seem to be raiseing the next generation of muggers, burglars and car thieves are being given a "red carpet" treatment by comparison, at MY EXPENSE TOO as a taxpayer.... ... and how tf are students a burden on the taxpayer?... courses run 3 years as a rule... theyll graduate, get a 'good' job, then be paying higher rate taxes for a further 40 years! surely tf it makes sense to support more students, as LABOUR DID.
June 10, 201015 yr Education • Volunteers provide school catering, for those that can't afford unsubsidized catering. • Libraries to be run and staffed by volunteers. • Make A-Levels harder. • Close all the universities outside of the Times Good University top 60. There's no point to Gloucester, or Buckingham polytechnics, unless the student obtains a first and gets a postgraduate qualification at a better institution, the degrees aren't worth the paper they're written on. • No one should be going to be University without the equivalent of 3 C's at A-level. • Shorter local courses for those not so academically gifted in IT, admin, and business etc, to help students get a real job. Social • Cut benefits, if you’re on benefits it should be unpleasant, and not a free ride at the tax payers’ expense; and stop benefits for asylum seekers and immigrants until they’ve paid taxes for 5 years. • The threshold for those on invalidity benefits need to be raised, to knock the scroungers back into the real world to work for a living. • Cut the minimum wage, until the deficit has been cleared. • Remove incentives for chavs to reproduce as a ‘career’ path. • Increase the prison tariffs for benefits cheats. • Prioritize policing on crime, cut funding for dealing with low priority complaints. • Raise, the drinking age to 21; introduce a licence to drink, 3 strikes and you’re out, so those who engage in violent and antisocial behaviour can be barred. • Community centres should be run by volunteers, and maintained by fundraising and providing money generating services. Health • Cut bureaucracy and waste, especially in management; the only departments that should be ring fenced is fire and rescue and emergency response services. • Stop profiteering by the private sector on equipment and supplies, a plastic bowl should not cost the tax payer £5 a piece. Banks • 50-75% of banks profits should be taxed to clear the deficit. Defence • Bring the line of operational command for the army, navy, and air force into one house. • More spent on equipment and training; less on paper chasers here. • The immediate withdrawal from Afghanistan. Local government/Civil Service • Eliminate the vast bureaucracy and wastage; there need not be a consultation fee for fitting a light bulb. This is an area where jobs can be slashed. • Outsource the tax office to India. International Development • Aid for the third world and reconstruction of Iraq and Afghanistan should be scrapped; it’s time for China and India to stump up their share.
June 10, 201015 yr Education • Volunteers provide school catering, for those that can't afford unsubsidized catering. • Libraries to be run and staffed by volunteers. • Make A-Levels harder. • Close all the universities outside of the Times Good University top 60. There's no point to Gloucester, or Buckingham polytechnics, unless the student obtains a first and gets a postgraduate qualification at a better institution, the degrees aren't worth the paper they're written on. • No one should be going to be University without the equivalent of 3 C's at A-level. • Shorter local courses for those not so academically gifted in IT, admin, and business etc, to help students get a real job. How is making A-Levels harder a cut? They're not exactly the walk in the park they're made out to be either - take History for example. Probably the hardest thing I've ever had to do in my life academically (and I've been told by uni students that it will almost certainly remain that way even after university) was my History coursework, which involved comparing ten sources which I had to find alone, without teacher help, evaluating the extent to which they answered the question as well as the extent to which their account was preferable to other sources, using a minimum of four primary sources (but not just primary sources which detailed information, ones which actually gave a viewpoint on the event. Pretty bloody hard to find for Charlemagne!), as well as providing an undetailed balance of information and evaluation, all in under 2,000 words and without any teacher guidance whatsoever - we had no idea whether what we were doing was the correct way of doing it or not, whether or not we were utilisating enough 'discrimination' and 'evaluation', vague terms that were simply thrown at us. Just because grades are going up doesn't mean that A-Levels are now 'easier' - it's simply far easier for teachers to train according to set syllabuses and there are many more resources than there used to be. The only way to make A-Levels 'easier' would be to change the nature of the course every single year - impracticable! The idea that all universities outside of the Times Good University top 60 should be closed is simply ridiculous. For a start, the TGU has its own criticisms, and the idea that we should hand government policy over to a subjective NEWSPAPER (which already does occur, if that weren't bad enough, but the idea that we should do it in such a direct fashion is nothing short of ridiculous) is frankly abhorrent. You also get many specialist universities outside of the TGU - take Preston for example, which is one of the leading universities for Journalism and Fashion. Not present in the TGU60, IIRC. Yeah, we're in the middle of an unstable economic situation. Where are all these volunteers coming from? Your ideas for making A-Levels harder (presumably reducing an A to about a C, as it 'used to be') along with making it so that only those with 3 Cs go to university are ridiculously elitist. Who's to say someone who is a specialist in just one subject but awful at all others shouldn't go to university for that one subject? How will these policies help the crisis? They'll just leave even more people unemployed! Social • Cut benefits, if you’re on benefits it should be unpleasant, and not a free ride at the tax payers’ expense; and stop benefits for asylum seekers and immigrants until they’ve paid taxes for 5 years. • The threshold for those on invalidity benefits need to be raised, to knock the scroungers back into the real world to work for a living. • Cut the minimum wage, until the deficit has been cleared. • Remove incentives for chavs to reproduce as a ‘career’ path. • Increase the prison tariffs for benefits cheats. • Prioritize policing on crime, cut funding for dealing with low priority complaints. • Raise, the drinking age to 21; introduce a licence to drink, 3 strikes and you’re out, so those who engage in violent and antisocial behaviour can be barred. • Community centres should be run by volunteers, and maintained by fundraising and providing money generating services. Yes, in the middle of a crisis where people are finding it hard enough to get jobs, we really want to make them suffer. Your policies here would seriously affect the poorest and divide society even moreso than in the 80s. How do you define the threshold for those on invalidity benefits? Too much is made of how people who are unemployed have it 'easy' and have a 'free ride' at the taxpayers' expense. I'd like to see most of you live easily on £60 a week, particularly if you have children. Child benefit is also just £20 a week, so it's hardly a 'career' path - most of the criticisms of the 'feral chavs' in this thread are quite simply just class warfare by proxy. How exactly is raising the drinking age to 21 going to help the deficit? We'd lose the tax from alcohol sales, and frankly it's not going to stop people under 21 from drinking. Again with the volunteers! Health • Cut bureaucracy and waste, especially in management; the only departments that should be ring fenced is fire and rescue and emergency response services. • Stop profiteering by the private sector on equipment and supplies, a plastic bowl should not cost the tax payer £5 a piece. I'll agree with the first point here, but the second one sounds suspiciously like a Daily Express front page headline. Banks • 50-75% of banks profits should be taxed to clear the deficit. Agreed. Defence • Bring the line of operational command for the army, navy, and air force into one house. • More spent on equipment and training; less on paper chasers here. • The immediate withdrawal from Afghanistan. Agreed. Local government/Civil Service • Eliminate the vast bureaucracy and wastage; there need not be a consultation fee for fitting a light bulb. This is an area where jobs can be slashed. • Outsource the tax office to India. I can't help but feel the 'vast bureaucracy and wastage' has been overestimated. Again, slashing jobs is hardly going to help the economy in the long run... Outsource GOVERNMENT to INDIA? Are you out of your mind? Apart from the fact there would be huge job losses as a result, do you really think such a measure (with the inefficiency bound to result) is going to go down well in this country? International Development • Aid for the third world and reconstruction of Iraq and Afghanistan should be scrapped; it’s time for China and India to stump up their share. China and India are still developing themselves, and why should they provide aid to countries which they haven't damaged at all through colonialism, unlike us? Frankly, China ALREADY basically supports the economy of Africa by buying its natural resources in bulk! Simply, the majority of these policies smack of you trying to use the economic crisis as an excuse to smuggle through your own hyperbolic tabloid-tainted agenda.
June 10, 201015 yr Education • Volunteers provide school catering, for those that can't afford unsubsidized catering. • Libraries to be run and staffed by volunteers. • Make A-Levels harder. • Close all the universities outside of the Times Good University top 60. There's no point to Gloucester, or Buckingham polytechnics, unless the student obtains a first and gets a postgraduate qualification at a better institution, the degrees aren't worth the paper they're written on. • No one should be going to be University without the equivalent of 3 C's at A-level. • Shorter local courses for those not so academically gifted in IT, admin, and business etc, to help students get a real job. Social • Cut benefits, if you’re on benefits it should be unpleasant, and not a free ride at the tax payers’ expense; and stop benefits for asylum seekers and immigrants until they’ve paid taxes for 5 years. • The threshold for those on invalidity benefits need to be raised, to knock the scroungers back into the real world to work for a living. • Cut the minimum wage, until the deficit has been cleared. • Remove incentives for chavs to reproduce as a ‘career’ path. • Increase the prison tariffs for benefits cheats. • Prioritize policing on crime, cut funding for dealing with low priority complaints. • Raise, the drinking age to 21; introduce a licence to drink, 3 strikes and you’re out, so those who engage in violent and antisocial behaviour can be barred. • Community centres should be run by volunteers, and maintained by fundraising and providing money generating services. Health • Cut bureaucracy and waste, especially in management; the only departments that should be ring fenced is fire and rescue and emergency response services. • Stop profiteering by the private sector on equipment and supplies, a plastic bowl should not cost the tax payer £5 a piece. Banks • 50-75% of banks profits should be taxed to clear the deficit. Defence • Bring the line of operational command for the army, navy, and air force into one house. • More spent on equipment and training; less on paper chasers here. • The immediate withdrawal from Afghanistan. Local government/Civil Service • Eliminate the vast bureaucracy and wastage; there need not be a consultation fee for fitting a light bulb. This is an area where jobs can be slashed. • Outsource the tax office to India. International Development • Aid for the third world and reconstruction of Iraq and Afghanistan should be scrapped; it’s time for China and India to stump up their share. Where to begin? Use volunteers to run school catering and libraries - where do you expect to get all these volunteers from? And how does it make sense to send tens of thousands of people on to the dole queue? Cut benefits - a lot of people on benefits have a job. They're just so low paid that they need benefits to bring their income up to something close to a reasonable level. Which brings us on to Cut the minimum wage - anyone on the minimum wage will be receiving benefit (see above). Reduce the minimum wage and they will claim more benefits. The minimum wage needs to go up. It is absolutely scandalous that a company like Tesco which makes over £1bn profit gets away with paying some staff the minimum wage. That means we are effectively subsidising Tesco. Prioritize policing on crime, cut funding for dealing with low priority complaints - crime has been falling for 15 years. What do you mean by low priority complaints? Many people would say speeding motorists are a low priority. But speeding motorists kill people and put others in hospital which costs money. Community centres funded by fundraising - fine in leafy Buckinghamshire but more difficult in the inner cities. So the community centres close and crime increases. Yet another false economy. Scrap aid to the third world - this will just lead to even more people wishing to leave their home country and move to countries like the UK.
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June 10, 201015 yr Everyone else has had a say so in a democracy I will. CUT TEACHERS PAY. They're just a pampered, underworked and overpaid profession. Only pay them for 5 weeks a year holiday instead of the 13 they're currently paid for. Anyone who rounds on me please tell me first which other workers get 13 weeks' paid holiday a year? Even MP's are having their holidays cut. I posted this on Digital Spy and several people agreed with me but said it would need pay cuts spread over the year so they can still make their mortgage repayments in August. Fine by me. If they won't accept this then get them in to paint the schools or clear canals or pick up litter during the summer. 13 weeks' paid leave a year? OUTRAGEOUS. :angry: Edited June 10, 201015 yr by Victor Meldrew
June 10, 201015 yr Author Everyone else has had a say so in a democracy I will. CUT TEACHERS PAY. They're just a pampered, underworked and overpaid profession. Only pay them for 5 weeks a year holiday instead of the 13 they're currently paid for. Anyone who rounds on me please tell me first which other workers get 13 weeks' paid holiday a year? Even MP's are having their holidays cut. I posted this on Digital Spy and several people agreed with me but said it would need pay cuts spread over the year so they can still make their mortgage repyments in August. If they won't accept this then get them in to paint the schools or clear canals or pick up litter. 13 weeks' paid leave a year? OUTRAGEOUS. :angry: You realise British schools have less holidays than almost every other country in the world... and all countries give teachers full holiday pay. The only way we'd be able to only give teachers five weeks' paid holiday a year is if the students also only got five weeks' holiday a year. Good luck convincing the kids on that one.
June 10, 201015 yr Everyone else has had a say so in a democracy I will. CUT TEACHERS PAY. They're just a pampered, underworked and overpaid profession. Only pay them for 5 weeks a year holiday instead of the 13 they're currently paid for. Anyone who rounds on me please tell me first which other workers get 13 weeks' paid holiday a year? Even MP's are having their holidays cut. I posted this on Digital Spy and several people agreed with me but said it would need pay cuts spread over the year so they can still make their mortgage repAyments in August. Fine by me. If they won't accept this then get them in to paint the schools or clear canals or pick up litter. 13 weeks' paid leave a year? OUTRAGEOUS. :angry: oh shut tf up you moron... you clearly havnt got a fcukin clue. especially coming from a bone idle bast*rd who has never worked a day for over 30 years... just go away.
June 10, 201015 yr You realise British schools have less holidays than almost every other country in the world... and all countries give teachers full holiday pay. The only way we'd be able to only give teachers five weeks' paid holiday a year is if the students also only got five weeks' holiday a year. Good luck convincing the kids on that one. Difficult times call for difficult measures though Danny. Plenty of work could be found during the summer as I mentioned above.
June 10, 201015 yr Education • Volunteers provide school catering, for those that can't afford unsubsidized catering. • Libraries to be run and staffed by volunteers. • Make A-Levels harder. • Close all the universities outside of the Times Good University top 60. There's no point to Gloucester, or Buckingham polytechnics, unless the student obtains a first and gets a postgraduate qualification at a better institution, the degrees aren't worth the paper they're written on. • No one should be going to be University without the equivalent of 3 C's at A-level. • Shorter local courses for those not so academically gifted in IT, admin, and business etc, to help students get a real job. that is utter bollox... so, sack school caterers and expect volunteers to do the work for nothing? ... give the sacked workers unemployment benefit instead of having them pay tax?... utter rubbish, who wrote that? crazy chris? surely to god the idea of getting people to uni is to better themselves... take my partner, clare (daylight dancer), she left school with sweet fa, got her modules and qualified for uni... shes now doing uni, she will get a much better paid job then what she ever would if she didnt volunterily take on further education. sure itll cost the country to educate her for 3 years.... after which upon gaining a well paid job, she will more then repay in the extra taxes she will be paying..
June 10, 201015 yr Difficult times call for difficult measures though Danny. Plenty of work could be found during the summer as I mentioned above. you are talking nonsense if there were that many jobs why arnt idle bast*rds like YOU doing them?... stop posting bollox or ill up your warning level.
June 10, 201015 yr you are talking nonsense if there were that many jobs why arnt idle bast*rds like YOU doing them?... stop posting bollox or ill up your warning level. Erm how is it bollox? You could say every other spending cut proposal is bolloxs then, like sickness benefit crackdowns, stopping benefits after one child. etc. Why are my proposals any less valid than other posters' in this thread? Edited June 10, 201015 yr by Victor Meldrew
June 10, 201015 yr Erm how is it bollox? You could say every other spending cut proposal is bolloxs then, like sickness benefit crackdowns, stopping benefits after one child. etc. Why are my proposals any less valid than other posters' in this thread? you post like a child, i told you very simplistically why its bollox, you just sound off like the sun reading idiot you are. 'your' proposals regarding teachers is simply UNTRUE, you are displaying a high ignorance level regarding teachers and its just a reactionary slogan put out to entertain your feeble mind. now please GO AWAY.
June 10, 201015 yr you post like a child, i told you very simplistically why its bollox, you just sound off like the sun reading idiot you are. 'your' proposals regarding teachers is simply UNTRUE, you are displaying a high ignorance level regarding teachers and its just a reactionary slogan put out to entertain your feeble mind. now please GO AWAY. Okay then name me another job or profession that gets 13 weeks holiday a year. MP's used to but I read they'll get less than that now. Go on then. Debate with me like an adult instead of telling me to "go away" Edited June 10, 201015 yr by Victor Meldrew
June 10, 201015 yr Difficult times call for difficult measures though Danny. Plenty of work could be found during the summer as I mentioned above. Again, excuse me? I'm stunned by the amount of ignorance shown by people in this thread towards my generation. We already have less holidays than any other country in Europe, and it's proven that exams are not getting easier. It's just stupid f***ers like yourself who claim they are to make yourselves feel better because you're too thick to get a job.
June 10, 201015 yr Okay then name me another job or profession that gets 13 weeks holiday a year. MP's used to but I read they'll get less than that now. Go on then. Debate with me like an adult instead of telling me to "go away" you fukin moron... they DO NOT get 13 weeks holiday a year... now unless you can post something thats a) accurate and b ) TRUE then go away. you get 52 weeks holiday a year... when YOU get a job then you are entitles to pass opinion, until then go away.
June 10, 201015 yr Again, excuse me? I'm stunned by the amount of ignorance shown by people in this thread towards my generation. We already have less holidays than any other country in Europe, and it's proven that exams are not getting easier. It's just stupid f***ers like yourself who claim they are to make yourselves feel better because you're too thick to get a job. Are you a teacher? I've never said anything about pupils holidays or exams have I? You must be confusing me with nother poster.
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