Not if we're doing it on who the Queen of Pop today is. If we are then I'd say it's a tie between Gaga, P!nk, Britney and possibly Beyoncé (difficult to know whether she counts since many of her songs are R&B tinged at the very least). I think when you get to a certain point in your career it becomes so much more difficult to sell albums and singles - you can either do a Celine and still shift albums or do a Madonna/Mariah and still have big lead singles but managing both is hard. But Madonna's most recent lead single wasn't a hit and the album it was selling didn't match expectations either so right now, today, she's not the Queen of Pop.

 

Beyoncé is the Queen of RnB today for sure. P!nk doesn't have a pure pop sound enough to get the title, she's more like the Queen of Pop-Rock (with Avril Lavigne second depending on what you call Paramore).

when I say Gaga might not be around in 10-20 years, we'll just see. its easy to have an amazing start to your career and then eventually just fade out.

 

I think unless GaGa somehow manages to majorly bugger it up on her second album she should easily still carry on as she is, she seems to have the capability to keep herself fresh and exciting for a long time but by the same token she could just as easily get it wrong and slip up, I guess time will tell with that one. She's had a major impact in her (almost) 2 years of being successful though, she has the qualities that made Madonna exciting at the start of her career.

Compare I Should Be So Lucky with Can't Get You Out Of My Head it is differnt, ISBSL is sweet and cheerful just like Kylie, but CGYOOMH despite being catchy is provocative same with All the Lovers, she is 42 she should act like it by being really classy, her boundry pushing music sound is but not her videos. She should class it up like her age.

Obviously no one is going to agree, but if we are going to go on opinion then I can say my mom is the queen of pop because she made a demo when she was in her twenties. Let's look at facts instead of what you like or dislike about the artist.

 

It's easy to look at the facts and see the 5 women who are leading the train. Just because you may not like their output it's ridiculous to shun the fact they are pop icons. I don't like Beyonce but I'm not gonna sit here and deny her popularity and success just because of it. Don't blind yourself just because you like another artist more.

Edited July 6, 201014 yr by Tyler

Compare I Should Be So Lucky with Can't Get You Out Of My Head it is differnt, ISBSL is sweet and cheerful just like Kylie, but CGYOOMH despite being catchy is provocative same with All the Lovers, she is 42 she should act like it by being really classy, her boundry pushing music sound is but not her videos. She should class it up like her age.

 

I hate to say this, but you seriously have no idea what you are talking about. The end.

I agree that P!nk is the Queen of Pop-Rock (without any doubt at all since it's not such a popular genre as it was 5 years ago) but I wouldn't say Avril is second! I know her last album was still big and she had two big hit singles but she's been away quite a while and she seems to be widely disliked nowadays. I'd say Kelly Clarkson is second in command for Queen of Pop-Rock. Once upon a time it would've been Anastacia of course but we all know what happened there.

OH ANASTACIA.. how i miss you :wub: left outside alone <333

I don't hate Kylie, she is defo the second Queen of Pop for me, but i'm saying that Britney Spears is better.

In the Uk Britney's sales have been dying her sales just seem to go into decline, Kylie is selling more than Madge and britney recently if you compare all the last albums from each act in the Uk. So it depends where you look. This is by far Kylies best album. Kylie had her most successful Single and Album in 2001 like 13 years into her music career how many other artists can say that? Also this album will probably be her 2nd most successful in her parlaphone era! Kylies on top form and doing better than ever!

I agree that P!nk is the Queen of Pop-Rock (without any doubt at all since it's not such a popular genre as it was 5 years ago) but I wouldn't say Avril is second! I know her last album was still big and she had two big hit singles but she's been away quite a while and she seems to be widely disliked nowadays. I'd say Kelly Clarkson is second in command for Queen of Pop-Rock. Once upon a time it would've been Anastacia of course but we all know what happened there.

 

Yeah, agreed with P!nk. She has a lot of credibility and she's not really disliked, and is accepted by people who like a wide range of genres because she has a really real and raw quality, I don't mind Avril and I do own two of her albums but she is incredibly fake and not that talented, and can't sing.

Compare I Should Be So Lucky with Can't Get You Out Of My Head it is differnt, ISBSL is sweet and cheerful just like Kylie, but CGYOOMH despite being catchy is provocative same with All the Lovers, she is 42 she should act like it by being really classy, her boundry pushing music sound is but not her videos. She should class it up like her age.

LOL. I'm sorry but I completely disagree. Had you said it about Madge, I would have agreed. But Kylie's image sort of defines classy, elegant and sexy without overdoing it. She get's it just right for me personally. Especially in the 'All The Lovers' video.

Compare I Should Be So Lucky with Can't Get You Out Of My Head it is differnt, ISBSL is sweet and cheerful just like Kylie, but CGYOOMH despite being catchy is provocative same with All the Lovers, she is 42 she should act like it by being really classy, her boundry pushing music sound is but not her videos. She should class it up like her age.

How in the hell is All The Lovers 'provocative'? I hate to patronise anybody but you really need to do some research before you post. Nobody is claiming the Kylie of today is the Kylie of 1988. She's had three distinctive stages of her career - manufactured pop puppet (from the start until '92 or so), taking some control of her career and writing more brooding songs but getting less success ('94-'98) and finally the Parlophone years of making largely disco-pop ('00-current). And within the Parlophone years, which is the context it will be judged within, the new album is not any kind of departure.

yes kylie is 42.. whats she supposed to be singing about then? menopause??

This is an interesting read...

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honorific_nic...n_popular_music

yes kylie is 42.. whats she supposed to be singing about then? menopause??

 

I would so buy that.

This topic really interests me actually. There's so many factors to consider when you're trying to label a popstar as the queen of whatever genre. When they last released an album, how many hit singles they manage from an album, how many copies they sell globally, whether they're popular in America (as it's the world's biggest market), whether they still get hit singles and albums or only one or the other, whether they're widely liked/disliked/respected/ridiculed (and trying to measure that without letting your own feelings get in the way). Quite interesting. Or maybe I'm just boring, ha.

Sclub fan or whatever your name is, seriously if your a Britney fan you have no room to talk about class. Kylies new number one album is coming! Get over it!

I agree that P!nk is the Queen of Pop-Rock (without any doubt at all since it's not such a popular genre as it was 5 years ago) but I wouldn't say Avril is second! I know her last album was still big and she had two big hit singles but she's been away quite a while and she seems to be widely disliked nowadays. I'd say Kelly Clarkson is second in command for Queen of Pop-Rock. Once upon a time it would've been Anastacia of course but we all know what happened there.

 

Ah my darling Sporck Queen :snif: she got married and that buggered up her song writing for HR :lol:

Now we can see a change in her appearence and she is going back to sprock so she can retake that second place

Not a fan but of course it is Madonna, to keep reinventing her image, sound and remaining relevant in pop through many years and leaving her contempories like Whitney, Celine and Mariah in the dust ensures she is Top Dog.

I like Kylie and fair play to her continued success but she is not an International star on the level of Madonna or even Britney.Her success in the biggest music market in the world the US has been limited.

Britney may have been the Princess of pop at some point not because of her vocals but in terms of the popularity of her songs, her stage performances and her International suceess but those days are long gone.She has become lazy and sloppy regarding her image and performances.

Without a doubt the reigning Princess of Pop is Beyonce her songs and even her voice is more pop than RnB.The fact that like Madonna she is so take charge and controlling over her career will ensure longevity for her.

This topic really interests me actually. There's so many factors to consider when you're trying to label a popstar as the queen of whatever genre. When they last released an album, how many hit singles they manage from an album, how many copies they sell globally, whether they're popular in America (as it's the world's biggest market), whether they still get hit singles and albums or only one or the other, whether they're widely liked/disliked/respected/ridiculed (and trying to measure that without letting your own feelings get in the way). Quite interesting. Or maybe I'm just boring, ha.

 

I do agree, it'd be nice to have a debate about all the factors of what make up such a status or their place in the industry as opposed to the usual "well X sold more than Y in Z amount of countries with their last album".