OH MY, I should never have lost faith in it, 2 episodes later and its as tense, well written and surprising as ever. The reveal at the end of episode 9 is a perfect combination of YAY/OMG. Very excited to see how they play that out, I assume

Olivia is the 'she' mentioned in the conversation and given Nina's relationship with her in this timeline for her to be working against her is doubly exciting

is it going to be cancelled?

Yes. I really can't see a way that FOX can keep it, 1.1/1.2 ratings are bad even for a Friday and they've even admitted it's losing money. They could do with more room on the schedule too.

Yeah, it's a goner without a doubt, shame as they said it won't get wrapped up.

I'll be a quite disappointed if Fringe is cancelled. It's very hit and miss, sometimes going from brilliant to terrible from one week to the next, but when it's on form, it's some of the best TV out there.

 

I think this alternate timeline storyline was a bad idea and has kind of killed the show. If they'd addressed it early in season 4 it would've been better, but they just tried to turn things back into a weekly procedural when really, the only people watching now are people that have watched every season.

 

This is kind of the main problem, Fringe is a procedural but it has a big over arching storyline and mythology, so it will never attract people thinking they'll jump in for one episode because the mythology is too complex, but it also puts fans off when you want to know what's going to happen next in the big story and instead they give you a crappy story about a husband time travelling to save his wife.

 

Like I say, it's a shame, because the recent episodes since the break have been good. Ideally, they'll get something like a 12 episode season 5 to tie things up.

Well, all I can say is, that if Fringe gets cancelled then it just proves that American TV audiences are brain dead goldfish who need to be spoonfed Reality shows, whatever CSI or NCIS spin-off they can dream up (CSI Kentucky or NCIS Alaska maybe..?) or whatever shite the Kardashian slags are getting up to.... -_-

Well, all I can say is, that if Fringe gets cancelled then it just proves that American TV audiences are brain dead goldfish who need to be spoonfed Reality shows, whatever CSI or NCIS spin-off they can dream up (CSI Kentucky or NCIS Alaska maybe..?) or whatever shite the Kardashian slags are getting up to.... -_-

 

Has this not being known for ages? At least non-cable shows. Just about everything has to have a procedural element for it survive. I don't think it's viewers faults, its the networs fault. Having 24 episodes sustained over 9 months is hard. And it's hard for ratings to be consistent, especially when shows have cliffhangers. Look at LOST, the show had probably two of the most ever talked about cliffhangers ever in modern day television (The hatch, and "we have to go back") yet the show lost millions of viewers, and not because of the decline of quality, but because of the way the show was aired. Shows like Fringe would work much better over 12 episodes.

Has this not being known for ages? At least non-cable shows. Just about everything has to have a procedural element for it survive. I don't think it's viewers faults, its the networs fault. Having 24 episodes sustained over 9 months is hard. And it's hard for ratings to be consistent, especially when shows have cliffhangers. Look at LOST, the show had probably two of the most ever talked about cliffhangers ever in modern day television (The hatch, and "we have to go back") yet the show lost millions of viewers, and not because of the decline of quality, but because of the way the show was aired. Shows like Fringe would work much better over 12 episodes.

 

I'd agree with that to be fair. And, tbh, I dont really see the reason that any show should last 22 episodes a year, there's too much danger of 'filler' setting in.. If you look at how BBC does it with Dr Who and Merlin, 13 episodes is perfectly acceptable. The Cable networks also strike the right balance, it cant be coincidence that most of my favourite shows (Dexter, Mad Men, Game of Thrones and Walking Dead) are only 12/13 episodes a year..

 

Fringe would be much better suited to a cable network. Less episodes and more of a niche audience would work well for it.

 

 

It's not the kind of show that does very well on the 5 main networks right now. Broadcast TV seems to go through phases and we're looking at the decline of the reality phase and the peak of the crime procedural.

Got through exactly half of season 3 in one day. The juggling between universes, episode about the past! Almost no filler at all! :wub:

 

Y'all can say anything about the quality of the beginning of season 4 but I for one LOVE it so far. It gives me a strong season 1 vibe, which is a very good thing.

Oh contrary to everything I said before about the quality of S4, it really picked up after the halfway mark. Everything does seem to coming together a little more now, but then they go and pose another big question! I'm only on episode 17, but looking at the screencaps of the next few it seems as though it'll be V good -

David Robert Jones is BACK *.*

I LOVED the three seasons of Fringe, it was so amazing! The alternate universe, Jones, Bell, the shapeshifters etc., but now? I want old Fringe back but I still LOVE the show! :wub:

Episode 19 was all kinds of AMAZING short of that weird ending. I hope season 5 will take place in the future or something.

 

AAAAAND... JUST CAUGHT UP.

 

 

I never liked William Bell. And don't let Astrid die plz

:'(

 

The show is now so complicated that it's insane to think how it all started.

Edited May 6, 201213 yr by Caïn

Fantastic finale. If not for the last scene and

William Bell's escape

they could really finish the whole thing.

 

And they probably did think season 4 would be the last one so just added the cliffhanger after it'd been renewed. :lol:

The finale was INCREDIBLE!!

 

Nice to see Season 4 actually did build up to something as FAB as in the past, despite the slow start.

 

Edited August 18, 201212 yr by Vandmanden

Ok, that was really very good indeed. What an AMAZING performance from John Noble, the final scene in particular had me tearing up. It wasn't perfect though, I think how they solved the Olivia issue at the start was done a little too quickly and I'm not feeling Henrietta in a more expanded role, but it's so good to have it back and it's good to see the producers/writers have basically thought 'right, by some miracle we have a final season to wrap it up, lets give it all we've got and not f*** it up'

 

Of course they may yet do so, but next weeks promo suggests not. YAY.

OMG Ett a :(

 

I had a feeling it would happen sooner rather than later given she was only a 'guest star' despite being one of the main 5 in each episode but it was still really sad, but in typical fringe style handled beautifully. Love where the series is going, it feels like an extended movie 4 DA FANZ at this point, which it IS effectively, but I just hope the ending is worthy.

OMG, so gutted and so early in the series.