Posted September 1, 201014 yr Law expert: public within their right to seek Pope arrest warrant Source - The Pink Paper A leading international law expert claimed the public are perfectly within their right to approach their local magistrate to seek an arrest warrant for the Pope during his visit to Britain later this year. Calum Liddle news.PinkPaper.comWednesday, 1 September 201031 August 2010Post your comment A leading international law expert claimed the public are perfectly within their right to approach their local magistrate to seek an arrest warrant for the Pope during his visit to Britain later this year. Professor Philippe Sands QC made the comments in a public debate as part of the Edinburgh Festival's Spirituality and Peace programme on Saturday. Speaking about Benedict XVI's impending visit to the UK, he said: “In terms of individual claims being brought forth, it depends on what the claim is about. There are certain international conventions in which when an individual crime is committed and that crime is capable of being subject to legal proceedings of criminal law of any country in the world, the criteria has then been met for arrest and prosecution.” “When someone enters a country, international law no longer has the same leverage, it uses the national legal system of that country, whether it be Scotland or England. Anybody can go to a magistrate with colourful evidence, and on the basis of that evidence a magistrate can issue an initial arrest warrant. Individuals are perfectly within their right to do that during the [Pope's] visit. “I'm a very strong supporter of that model, albeit with obvious safeguards. It's a positive thing, it's a good thing, it's the right thing.” Atheist and evolutionist Richard Dawkins and civil rights campaigner Peter Tatchell, among others, hope to have the Pope arrested on the same legal principal used to arrest Augusto Pinochet, the late Chilean dictator, on a Spanish warrant when he visited Britain in 1998. Sands, the author of Lawless World, added: “The basic proposition exists; if you commit an international crime – torture, an act of genocide in a systematic way, a war crime - you are subject to arrest. It is the same reason why Tony Blair will not be doing book signings in certain jurisdictions around the world because there is a real and justified fear of arrest.” Prominent Scottish human rights lawyer, Aamer Anwar – a fellow panellist during the open public debate on international law – said he wanted to see more “people power on the ground." “We need to shift the argument of justice beyond international law. If we look at the last century, major changes over equality, suffrage and civil rights were possible because people demanded change.” Anwar, a member of the Stop the War Coalition, encouraged people to “exercise their human and legal rights for what is morally correct." ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- My own considered opinion...? Fukk it, let's do it..... :lol: :lol:
September 1, 201014 yr Author A bullet in between the eyes would be better IMHO I wouldn't argue against that either..... :lol: But surely it would be even more fun to see the b'astard up before The Hague..... :lol:
September 1, 201014 yr Peter Tatchell will try, Peter Tatchell will probably be beaten mercilessly by his bodyguards. It seems if you're a head of state you can get away with anything these days!
September 1, 201014 yr Author It seems if you're a head of state you can get away with anything these days! Too true - Bush, Blair, The Chinese PM, Kim Jong Il, Putin, Benjamin Nethan-yahoo.... Of course, not if you happen to be Ajmadinijad or Saddam though... Cant be a coincidence that the above have nuclear weapons whereas the others dont.... Cant say I blame Iran for wanting nukes tbh, if the Americans and Brits are pretty much leaving North Korea alone and letting them sink South Korean vessels no less with not much more than an "Oi, you Kim Jong Il, stop that you naughty man". Certainly a more naked act of war than anything Saddam or the Taliban ever did (and before anyone says "what about September 11?", the Afghans and Iraqis had feck-all to do with that, that was all the doing of SAUDIS, the terrorists were all Saudis, the leaders of Al Qaeda are all Saudis.....)
September 1, 201014 yr Law expert: public within their right to seek Pope arrest warrant Source - The Pink Paper Fukk it, let's do it..... :lol: :lol: Go on then Scott, and get shot dead by one of his armed bodyguards!!!! Edited September 1, 201014 yr by Common Sense
September 2, 201014 yr Author Go on then Scott, and get shot dead by one of his armed bodyguards!!!! Trust you to defend the fukkin' Pope Chris.... Even though you're not actually a Catholic, you PRETEND to be one so you can send your daughter to a better school though.... <_<
September 2, 201014 yr Trust you to defend the fukkin' Pope Chris.... Even though you're not actually a Catholic, you PRETEND to be one so you can send your daughter to a better school though.... <_< I consider myself now to be a lapsed Catholic. Well very lapsed! My dad was Catholic and I was brought up as one, attending mass every Sunday, until I rebelled at 16 and refused to go to mass any more. I got married in a Catholic church but only to please my dad really. Yes I admit that I started going again to get my daughter in to a Catholic primary school, then stopped again, then started again to get her in the Catholic secondary school. What's wrong with that? They're better schools. I've nothing against the Pope. Scott, you can't blame him for the misdemeanours of Catholic priests. It's like saying a guy murders someone so the boss of his workplace is to blame. Ludicrous. Edited September 2, 201014 yr by Common Sense
September 2, 201014 yr Author I consider myself now to be a lapsed Catholic. Well very lapsed! My dad was Catholic and I was brought up as one, attending mass every Sunday, until I rebelled at 16 and refused to go to mass any more. I got married in a Catholic church but only to please my dad really. Yes I admit that I started going again to get my daughter in to a Catholic primary school, then stopped again, then started again to get her in the Catholic secondary school. What's wrong with that? They're better schools. I've nothing against the Pope. Scott, you can't blame him for the misdemeanours of Catholic priests. It's like saying a guy murders someone so the boss of his workplace is to blame. Ludicrous. You clearly know nothing about Ratzinger when he was a Cardinal.. He covered up for p**** priests and helped them escape the law, he and his little squad of "enforcers" even went around threatening people with excommunication if they repeated allegations to the authorities... Fukk him, he's a scumbag and deserves shooting.... And his homophobia and still refusing to be open to contraception and birth control even though about a third of Africa is dying of AIDS and is overpopulated and cannot feed itself is certainly his fault.... Oh yeah, and he was a member of the Hitler Youth.... :rolleyes:
September 2, 201014 yr The Catholic Church IS homophobic though Scott so you can hardly expect it's Leader to come out and back homosexuality can you really? Every Pope is homophobic as I would think most Cardinals, Bishops and priests are. That's what the religion teaches them. Same with birth control. It's not just him as a person who is against it. He can't come out tomorrow and tell Catholics to use condoms or take the pill as the Catholic Church believes sex to be for pro-creation only and is also against abortion. Makes me laugh when we have a change of Pope and people start thinking that the Catholic church may become "more tolerants of gays and birth control." It's the RELIGION and not just the man at the top who decides. Edited September 2, 201014 yr by Common Sense
September 3, 201014 yr Author The Catholic Church IS homophobic though Scott so you can hardly expect it's Leader to come out and back homosexuality can you really? Every Pope is homophobic as I would think most Cardinals, Bishops and priests are. That's what the religion teaches them. Same with birth control. It's not just him as a person who is against it. He can't come out tomorrow and tell Catholics to use condoms or take the pill as the Catholic Church believes sex to be for pro-creation only and is also against abortion. Makes me laugh when we have a change of Pope and people start thinking that the Catholic church may become "more tolerants of gays and birth control." It's the RELIGION and not just the man at the top who decides. Then religion is evil, simple as and needs to be eradicated, it's all man-made anyway, has nothing to do with "God" or spirituality, anything created by man is flawed and therefore very much open to interpretation... And dont tell me that things cant change, that's rubbish, Martin Luther changed things in the middle-ages and split the Catholic church asunder... There is nothing in the 10 Commandments about homosexuality or indeed birth control... So, it's not a pronouncement from "god", it's a pronouncement from man's bigotry and ignorance... And where does it say in their "religion" that it's acceptable for Priests to bugger choir boys and orphans....?
September 6, 201014 yr Then religion is evil, simple as and needs to be eradicated, it's all man-made anyway, has nothing to do with "God" or spirituality, anything created by man is flawed and therefore very much open to interpretation... And dont tell me that things cant change, that's rubbish, Martin Luther changed things in the middle-ages and split the Catholic church asunder... There is nothing in the 10 Commandments about homosexuality or indeed birth control... So, it's not a pronouncement from "god", it's a pronouncement from man's bigotry and ignorance... And where does it say in their "religion" that it's acceptable for Priests to bugger choir boys and orphans....? Very True.
September 8, 201014 yr Arrest the f***er for inciting racial hatres and perverting the courts of justice. Apparently you need a warrant to perform a citizen's arrest, I'm sure Richard Dawkins will be on it :D
September 15, 201014 yr So, he arrives tomorrow. I was talking to a staunch Catholic old lady from our church today. She cleans for the priest. She was talking about the visit and how she's going to Hyde Park for the vigil on Saturday, £10 pp entry. I said that there was a lot of animosity towards this Pope and she got angry and said "they want shooting, anyone saying a word against him or our Church" Hardly a Christian outlook to shoot and kill people is it? :rolleyes: I nearly said that it's him who wants shooting but decided not to as I'm well thought of at the church and school still. Edited September 15, 201014 yr by Common Sense
September 15, 201014 yr So one of his cardinal's calls the UK a THird World country. Boy is this trip going to go down well, not...
September 15, 201014 yr 'Third world country' is supposed to be a reference to the UK being MULTICULTURAL? Is that supposed to be any less offensive? :/ Nick Griffin's been slaughtered for less...
September 15, 201014 yr 'Third world country' is supposed to be a reference to the UK being MULTICULTURAL? Is that supposed to be any less offensive? :/ Nick Griffin's been slaughtered for less... Agree, can add racism to the charge sheet of the upper levels of the catholic church alongside perversion, paedophilia, theft of gold etc Just hope there is another Mehmet Ali Agca out there tomorrow who will shoot the pope between the eyes
September 15, 201014 yr So, he arrives tomorrow. I was talking to a staunch Catholic old lady from our church today. She cleans for the priest. She was talking about the visit and how she's going to Hyde Park for the vigil on Saturday, £10 pp entry. I said that there was a lot of animosity towards this Pope and she got angry and said "they want shooting, anyone saying a word against him or our Church" Hardly a Christian outlook to shoot and kill people is it? :rolleyes: I nearly said that it's him who wants shooting but decided not to as I'm well thought of at the church and school still. Never had you down as a churchgoer :o You should have just said it lol
September 15, 201014 yr Never had you down as a churchgoer :o You should have just said it lol He's only in it for Crazy Chris reasons though, getting his daughter into a school :lol:
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