Well I do think this is a bit pot kettle black Lily darl.

You DID use to take drugs so you can hardly criticise Victoria for being a bad role model but I think her comments are 100% true about Beckham being too skinny and especially about those THINGS rolling about and thrusting their skanky bodies in my face.

 

Lily needs to shut up though before she does a Charlotte Church :zzz:

hey guys lay of the Pussycat Dolls. If you think Pussycat Dolls promote prostitution then obviously artists such as Britney, Christina, Madonna, Beyonce and many more artsits out there.

Like I said, if you had body's like the Pussycat Dolls or one of the artists above then of course you would want everyone to see you in skimpy clothes!

And I think some of you need to look up the deffinition for prostitutes. Since one do the Pussycat Dolls encorouge people to pay others to have sex with them?! And the pussycat dolls arnt like that all the time, look at Stickwitu for example, there types of clothes they wear depends on the song if you ask me. A sexy song like buttons will have a sexy video. A slow song like stickwitu will have a smooth slow video.

I haven't heard Lily's song. One of the main reasons for this is that I gave up listening to daytime radio because of tripe like the Pussycat Dolls being on it all the time.

 

But her comments have been up until now 100% on point.

 

Victoria Beckham is TOLD WHAT TO SAY in interviews. Also, if she's at her natural weight now then she must have been eating like crazy pre-fame to have had the normal figure she had at the time of Wannabe. She's as much a liar as Michael Jackson with his "inherited skin condition" which turned him white...yeah, remember that interview? Funny how it only affects the wealthy members of the Jackson family...anyway...back to the point.

 

Pussycat Dolls are hyper-manufactured from LA session dancers. That's all they are. I can only assume the girl who does all the singing wasn't considered marketable on her own - at least not until they've done a couple of albums and she can embark on some kind of Beyonce solo career.

 

Oh, as for drugs...you don't know what your favourite clean cut pop stars get up to in their dressing rooms. Any number of them could have snorted more coke last night than Lily ever did. At least Lily had the sense to mention it herself before it came out in some dodgy tabloid story. Why hasn't your favourite clean cut pop star been in the tabloids then? Well, probably cos the tabloid hacks are in there sharing a line or two with them.

 

Go Lily - tell it like it is.

McFly spring to mind I bet they get up to all sorts B)

And no Josh - I don't want to see women acting like sluts on television. Not just the Pussycat Dolls but Christina, Britney alll of them even though I'm fans of their music I don't like watching the videos because of their antic and that goes for all these great dance tracks that decide to use hookers in the videos :puke:

 

And this isn't because I'm gay if there were videos with naked men in it I'd still think the same. Music isn't about whose the sexiest - its abou time people like teenage girls started to realise its about the heart, the lyrics and the emotion not the pretty boy ****tards like McFly who only sell records because everyone thinks they're oh so wonderfully gorgeous :puke:

McFly spring to mind I bet they get up to all sorts B)

And no Josh - I don't want to see women acting like sluts on television. Not just the Pussycat Dolls but Christina, Britney alll of them even though I'm fans of their music I don't like watching the videos because of their antic and that goes for all these great dance tracks that decide to use hookers in the videos :puke:

 

And this isn't because I'm gay if there were videos with naked men in it I'd still think the same. Music isn't about whose the sexiest - its abou time people like teenage girls started to realise its about the heart, the lyrics and the emotion not the pretty boy ****tards like McFly who only sell records because everyone thinks they're oh so wonderfully gorgeous :puke:

Dont forget all the screaming teenage girls <_< ...

She picks easy targets doesn't she? Pretty much everyone has slagged of Victoria Beckham by pointing out the bleeding obvious- that she's too skinny, she has no talent and was probably a forerunner to all these 'famous for being famous' people we have now as all the attention on her wasn't her unsuccessful solo career, it was who she was married to and where she was going shopping.

 

Lily herself doesn't have a much better voice than Victoria though. Plus, I'd say her overt 'it's funny to have someone beaten up and to break in their house and ruin all their stuff' video sends a lot worse message than the Pussycat Dolls generic seen it a billion times before 'dirty slags shoving their fannies in your face' videos do. Put it this way, if the Pussycat Dolls 'promote prostitution' I've yet to see a video which shows them accepting money from some guy who's just shagged them. Yes, you get them dancing around with some interchangable rapper but that's them and about a thousand other artists. If she considers that promoting prositution what does she consider her own video with her paying some chavs to beat that bloke up and break into his house and wreck it while she pours tablets into his drink and laughs as he gets upset about it all. ''Tongue-in-cheek'' and ''Just a bit or harmless fun'' probably.

 

Why do some people hold her opinions up as pearls of wisdom? She's just some spoilt little rich girl who pretends she's a chav and says nothing that hasn't been said a lot more eloquently before. She just sounds thick.

 

Pussycat Dolls, Victoria Beckham, Silly Alan- they're all as $h!t as each other.

Edited July 19, 200618 yr by e-motion

So what if the pussycat dolls dress slutty? they look far better than how she looks.. stupid women.. i can't wait for her to flop and i shall laugh.

Victoria is too thin but she is a good mother unlike lily would be.. " word on da street kidz is to mug n smoke pot"

She picks easy targets doesn't she? Pretty much everyone has slagged of Victoria Beckham by pointing out the bleeding obvious- that she's too skinny, she has no talent and was probably a forerunner to all these 'famous for being famous' people we have now as all the attention on her wasn't her unsuccessful solo career, it was who she was married to and where she was going shopping.

 

Lily herself doesn't have a much better voice than Victoria though. Plus, I'd say her overt 'it's funny to have someone beaten up and to break in their house and ruin all their stuff' video sends a lot worse message than the Pussycat Dolls generic seen it a billion times before 'dirty slags shoving their fannies in your face' videos do. Put it this way, if the Pussycat Dolls 'promote prostitution' I've yet to see a video which shows them accepting money from some guy who's just shagged them. Yes, you get them dancing around with some interchangable rapper but that's them and about a thousand other artists. If she considers that promoting prositution what does she consider her own video with her paying some chavs to beat that bloke up and break into his house and wreck it while she pours tablets into his drink and laughs as he gets upset about it all. ''Tongue-in-cheek'' and ''Just a bit or harmless fun'' probably.

 

Why do some people hold her opinions up as pearls of wisdom? She's just some spoilt little rich girl who pretends she's a chav and says nothing that hasn't been said a lot more eloquently before. She just sounds thick.

 

Pussycat Dolls, Victoria Beckham, Silly Alan- they're all as $h!t as each other.

 

Pretty much sums it all :cheer: Although i like PCD and Victoria lol

Another week at #1, another inflation to the ego and more convincing she has the right to slate others when she's a skanky whore and releases dreadful music herself. :rolleyes:

Right, and is that some kind of scientific fact? Rapists attack any girl whether with skirts or jeans doesnt really matter to them. By having a sexier image you're not really attacking anyone, girls can have a sexy image but still have safe sex too, image doesnt affect intelligence. Now by beating people up you're certainly causing more harm.

I doubt it could be proven scientifically but I'm 99% sure it could be proven! And of course it will promote rape. A rapist is going to attack someone who's vunerable and you can't get much more vunerable than a girl of 14/15 wearing hardly anything and who's probably pissed as they think it's a good thing to go out, lie about your age, binge drink and attract boys!

 

I am fairly certain that it can be proven that there is a link between the growing amount of teenage pregnancy & STI's in teenagers with when 'celebs' started to dress in hardly anything. It never used to happen but now popstars like Girls Aloud, PCD, Britney, Christina, Rachel Stevens etc, "It" girls and WAG's (or in short, anyone who appears in Heat magazine) all dress in hardly anything when it's teenagers and pre-teens (mainly girls) that look up to them as role models. That's why I like the Sugababes so much, because they don't have to dress like slags or pose nude in some $h!te like Zoo or Nuts to sell records. They actually wear clothes and are probably the biggest pop band around. They're excellent role models.

 

And how exactly is violence in a music video going to do much? Because it really won't, violence is never off the TV. Millions of people of all ages watch Eastenders and Coronation Street and they both have violence in them a lot, as do many other shows on pre-watershed. Even CARTOONS have violence in it. Things like Action Man and Power Rangers were marketed for kids when I was about 3, you've been able to buy toy guns and knives for years. A video or two with violence in it is going to do naff all! How many tv programs or films do you see aimed at kids or shown pre-watershed with girls dressed in hardly any clothing and look like complete sluts. Hardly any, and most of those are music videos by the likes of Aguilera and PCD. Why is it now possible to buy kids of around 8-9 yo skirts that are barely bigger than belts? As soon as "celebs" started to do it that's what young girls want to be. They all wanted to be a Spice Girl or part of S Club 7 so they pretend to be them and part of doing that is dressing like them, in hardly anything. They are the worst role models possible!

Oh and as for the safe sex promotion. WHY DONT THEY then, because none of them EVER do. We got Rachel Stevens telling us to check our balls but that's it. If a pussycat doll or some other $l*t celeb like them decided to actually promote the issues that kids need educating on then they would be good role models, but they don't. All they care about is selling a few more records and making a few more bucks while they can before their short lived careers are over... <_<

 

Oh, as for drugs...you don't know what your favourite clean cut pop stars get up to in their dressing rooms. Any number of them could have snorted more coke last night than Lily ever did. At least Lily had the sense to mention it herself before it came out in some dodgy tabloid story. Why hasn't your favourite clean cut pop star been in the tabloids then? Well, probably cos the tabloid hacks are in there sharing a line or two with them.

 

Go Lily - tell it like it is.

 

Great post, even Take That would give Pete Doherty a run for his money!

I doubt it could be proven scientifically but I'm 99% sure it could be proven! And of course it will promote rape. A rapist is going to attack someone who's vunerable and you can't get much more vunerable than a girl of 14/15 wearing hardly anything and who's probably pissed as they think it's a good thing to go out, lie about your age, binge drink and attract boys!

 

I am fairly certain that it can be proven that there is a link between the growing amount of teenage pregnancy & STI's in teenagers with when 'celebs' started to dress in hardly anything. It never used to happen but now popstars like Girls Aloud, PCD, Britney, Christina, Rachel Stevens etc, "It" girls and WAG's (or in short, anyone who appears in Heat magazine) all dress in hardly anything when it's teenagers and pre-teens (mainly girls) that look up to them as role models. That's why I like the Sugababes so much, because they don't have to dress like slags or pose nude in some $h!te like Zoo or Nuts to sell records. They actually wear clothes and are probably the biggest pop band around. They're excellent role models.

 

And how exactly is violence in a music video going to do much? Because it really won't, violence is never off the TV. Millions of people of all ages watch Eastenders and Coronation Street and they both have violence in them a lot, as do many other shows on pre-watershed. Even CARTOONS have violence in it. Things like Action Man and Power Rangers were marketed for kids when I was about 3, you've been able to buy toy guns and knives for years. A video or two with violence in it is going to do naff all! How many tv programs or films do you see aimed at kids or shown pre-watershed with girls dressed in hardly any clothing and look like complete sluts. Hardly any, and most of those are music videos by the likes of Aguilera and PCD. Why is it now possible to buy kids of around 8-9 yo skirts that are barely bigger than belts? As soon as "celebs" started to do it that's what young girls want to be. They all wanted to be a Spice Girl or part of S Club 7 so they pretend to be them and part of doing that is dressing like them, in hardly anything. They are the worst role models possible!

 

Is there any actual proof for any of that though other than you being 'sure'? I think blaming pop stars for all the problems in the world is going way over the top, but that isn't anything new. Ever since the 1950s at least there have been people blaming it for the decay of society and predicting the world will end because of it. In reality I think it's often just a scapegoat to avoid dealing with the actual problems head on.

 

The Pussycat Dolls are a rubbish, fine, but blaming them for paedophilia is going just a little too far. There are rapists, paedophiles, STIs and teenage pregnancies in countries where all the women are expected to be covered up from head to toe.

 

In any case, none of this has much to do with what Lily Allen said. She just said Victoria is skinny (very observant isn't she? How many of us never knew that before Lily kindly informed us of it) and that her video doesn't promote mugging but the Pussycat Dolls somehow promote prostitution. Unless she ranted more on her blog apart from that, she never said anything about how young girls shouldn't look up to them and dress like them. All she said from the look of it was a typical Vicky Pollard-esque bitching session slagging off other girls for how they look and how they dress. Why people seem to think Lily's opinions are any more relevent than those of the next gobby little slapper I don't know.

They aren't directly linked to it, but it's surely more than just co-incidence, people want to be like their favourite celebs, moreso now than ever. And when your favourite celebs go around like they, and various other people, do then there will surely be a link. There are certainly going to be various different reasons as to why this is happening but celebs have GOT to be one of them!

 

Oh and I never actually mentioned paedophilia anywhere in that post!

Edited July 19, 200618 yr by RabbitFurCoat

"Why is it now possible to buy kids of around 8-9 yo skirts that are barely bigger than belts?"

 

In my experience 8-9 year olds don't buy their own clothes so if that's what they are wearing put the blame for it where it belongs - their parents!

"Why is it now possible to buy kids of around 8-9 yo skirts that are barely bigger than belts?"

 

In my experience 8-9 year olds don't buy their own clothes so if that's what they are wearing put the blame for it where it belongs - their parents!

I don't think any responsible parent would buy anything like that without the child atleast asking first.

"Why is it now possible to buy kids of around 8-9 yo skirts that are barely bigger than belts?"

 

In my experience 8-9 year olds don't buy their own clothes so if that's what they are wearing put the blame for it where it belongs - their parents!

 

 

Yeah, their 'parents' who more than likely got pregnant themselves aged 14 or 15 and were listening to the sodding Spice Girls (Victoria Beckham's old group...) and thinking they were acceptable role models..... <_<

 

Blame the parents, yes indeed absobloodylutely, but we know where it all starts - the so-called "fashion" Industry which links in with the Pop Music Industry, both of whom sexualise and objectify young lassies at ever more alarmingly young ages.....

little girls have been dressing in 'mini' versions of the current fashions as long as i can remember. thats what they want, to emulate 'stars'. they might not buy them themselves, but pressurise their parents into doing so.

 

encouraging paedophillia....?.... well yes, i think it does!

 

i dont think that its any co-incidence that when little girls go missing (only later to be found dead after being subjected to an horrific sexual attack) it always seems to happen in summer.

 

diane tift (1966), caroline hogg, susan maxwell ('83) sarah payne, and others all seem to go in summer. i reckon its because they are dressed in fewer, summery clothes (and why not, that is no excuse) and people who are pretty weak and depraved are effected by it, tipping them over the edge.

 

if the pussycat dolls started wearing sacks then our kids would be safe!

Yeah, their 'parents' who more than likely got pregnant themselves aged 14 or 15 and were listening to the sodding Spice Girls (Victoria Beckham's old group...) and thinking they were acceptable role models..... <_<

 

Blame the parents, yes indeed absobloodylutely, but we know where it all starts - the so-called "fashion" Industry which links in with the Pop Music Industry, both of whom sexualise and objectify young lassies at ever more alarmingly young ages.....

 

 

absolutely scott.... i detest the way that this so called 'girl power' has infact returned 'girls' into being sex objects, which is exactly what the punk generation liberated females from!

 

maybe 'punk' was real girl power.

I'm not saying they arent, but surely there's more to it than just to wear short skirts and wearing make up. Its all about attitude, you can be sexy but still be respected, just dont act like a whore.

 

Yeh, okay, but the point I'm trying to make really is that there's a huge gulf of difference in an 18, 19, 20, 21 year old dressing like this and a 12, 13, 14 year old doing it. Women aged 18, 19 and above have more life experience, street smarts and have a better idea of the sorts of characters to avoid, young teenage girls do not have this experience at all and as such are a lot more vulnerable and impressionable... And I really dont think that aiming groups like PCD at this young-teen or pre-teen age group is a good idea....

 

But then again, the problem is, the music itself is pretty damn childish and basic, which is probably why the kids love it.....