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I had expected more concerts in the UK + Ireland but a LONG tour would only tire them up. (perhaps even split them appart earlier)

A wise combination of stadiums in Europe. TT HAD to announce some international concerts to show they want to become international. (this will guarantee them a little more push for the album in the chosen countries) TT have never been big outside the UK so it is wise not to announce too many concerts. If the album does well they will probably add some dates here and there. These stadiums would be packed by only mentioning Robbie's name so I guess it is a safe start.

The truth is nobody really knows if Europe will eventually buy the new TT... :unsure:

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I had expected more concerts in the UK + Ireland but a LONG tour would only tire them up. (perhaps even split them appart earlier)

A wise combination of stadiums in Europe. TT HAD to announce some international concerts to show they want to become international. (this will guarantee them a little more push for the album in the chosen countries) TT have never been big outside the UK so it is wise not to announce too many concerts. If the album does well they will probably add some dates here and there. These stadiums would be packed by only mentioning Robbie's name so I guess it is a safe start.

The truth is nobody really knows if Europe will eventually buy the new TT... :unsure:

 

I have no doubt many more dates will be added to the UK and likely another one (two at the most due to limits for the stadium) in Ireland (Croke Park). But with the UK - this is only 14 initial dates - I expect at least another half a dozen to be added for the UK. In Wembley for example - I have no doubt they will want to break Michael Jackson's record of a 7 night residency there.

 

Europe is where it gets very interesting. I knew they would be playing stadiums in Germany - but I am very surprised with the news they are playing the San Siro and The Amsterdam Arena (actually a 50,000+ stadium, not an arena). They will need to emphasize Robbie much more here - and he will have to do a much longer solo section accross Europe. And plus Rob did say when in Paris a few weeks back that they will be playing Paris too - so more cities to be announced.

 

It's a truly fascinating situation really - TT's last album reached #68 in the Netherlands and #48 in Italy and they are going to play the two biggest stadiums there is in both countries. Kathy was correct all along - it's all about money. Together in the UK they are most defiantly going to be selling more tickets together then either would have done apart due to the manner in which it is being marketed. And abroad TT are going to get a truly unique opportunity to play stadiums, which otherwise would not have been possible. It has been a brilliantly orchestrated plan by all involved. Very impressive. :D

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Take That Announces European Stadium Shows

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Billboard.Biz

October 26, 2010 - Global | Touring | Rock and Pop

 

Reformed U.K. pop group Take That has confirmed one of the worst kept secrets in the music biz -- the band will tour European stadia next summer.

 

The announcement was made today (Oct. 26) at London's Savoy Hotel where all five original band members, Gary Barlow, Mark Owen, Howard Donald, Jason Orange and Robbie Williams held a press conference in front of invited media.

 

The "Progress Live" tour commences May 30 next year at Sunderland's Stadium of Light before calling at the City of Manchester Stadium for a four-night run (June 3, 4, 5 and 7). Other U.K. dates include Cardiff Millennium Stadium (June 14), Dublin Croke Park (June 18), two nights at Glasgow Hampden Park (June 22 and 23), Birmingham Villa Park (June 27) and a closing four-night run at London's Wembley Stadium (July 1, 2, 3, 5).

 

European dates include Milan's San Siro stadium (July 12), Copenhagen Parken (July 16), Amsterdam Arena (July 18), Hamburg Imtech Arena (July 22), Düsseldorf Espirit Arena (July 25) and Munich Olympiastadion (July 29). The promoters are Manchester-based SJM and KSE; Samsung is the headline sponsor for the tour, which marks the first time that Williams will have performed with the band since the mid-nineties.

 

Tickets for the U.K. dates are priced between £55 ($87.40) and £90 ($143) and go on sale 9am GMT Friday Oct. 29 from a range of ticket vendors; tickets for European shows go on sale Nov. 5.

 

Confirming the tour, which had been widely expected ever since Williams announced that he was re-joining the band in July this year, Barlow told the audience that the forthcoming live dates would not be a "stripped back acoustic tour," but will be "a big production stadium show."

 

Williams also confirmed that he would perform a selection of his solo material at the live dates.

 

"There's going to be a bit for everybody," said Williams. "I'm going to be doing a bit. The lads are going to be doing a bit and then we're all going to be doing a bit."

 

"That's an important message for the fans that are coming," added Barlow. "In [these shows] they will get to see us all do our individual bits."

 

Asked from the floor if one of the reasons why Williams had rejoined the band was that his solo career was beginning to stall, the singer issued a defiant response. Williams greatest hits collection "In and Out of Consciousness -- Greatest Hits 1990-2010" (Virgin/EMI) debuted atop the Billboard European chart last week. (Billboard.biz, Oct. 21). The album was Williams' ninth No. 1 in the U.K. albums chart.

 

"[My] Greatest hits [was] No. 1 in 14 countries," the solo star stated. "[My] last album sold more than [Take That's 2008 studio set, released on Polydor] "The Circus" so, at the risk of sounding like a sour puss -- f*** off."

 

Williams also spoke about the differences between being Take That now and in the mid-nineties when the Manchester-formed group had their first wave of chart-topping success.

 

"The first time around, there was a lot of power struggles with everybody and this time around there just isn't," a relaxed, jocular Williams said. "We're all in it for the same reasons, the right reasons whatever they are and it's a good thing."

 

Reflecting on the band's phenomenal success since they first reformed as a four-piece (minus Williams) in 2005, Donald added: "I truly believed at that time, I think most of did, that it would be a one-off -- a trip down memory lane. But here we are doing our fourth tour and [third] album. I didn't expect it; I don't think any of us did."

 

Take That's new studio album "Progress" (Polydor) will be released Nov. 22 in the U.K. and is widely expeced to be one of the year's biggest sellers. According to a statement from the band's label, Take That and Robbie Williams have sold more than 80 million albums between

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So based on the album title I suspect the setlist will done in progression. Likely to be the following.

 

TT 5 singing the 90's material - Pray, Could It Be Magic, Everything Changes, Back For Good, Never Forver, RMF etc

Rob solo section - LMEY, Come Undone, No Regrets, Feel, Angels, Rock DJ etc plus possibly 'Shame'.

TT 4 singing the hits from the past two albums - Patience, Shine, Rule The World, Greatest Day, Up All Night etc

TT 5 again singing The Flood and other new material from the album. Obviously it is likely they will also sing the biggies from the 90's like BFG and NF at the end too for better effect.

 

Interestingly on Irish radio - people are texting in complaining that the gig in Croker should be free considering Rob will be singing solo and seeing as he has a long-overdue promise of a free gig in that exact venue. :lol: You would think they would have picked the Aviva Stadium to avoid this sort of thing, although I doubt it will effect ticket sales in Dublin. I certainly won't be going though but look forward to seeing it on the telly. ^_^

It's a truly fascinating situation really - TT's last album reached #68 in the Netherlands and #48 in Italy and they are going to play the two biggest stadiums there is in both countries. Kathy was correct all along - it's all about money. Together in the UK they are most defiantly going to be selling more tickets together then either would have done apart due to the manner in which it is being marketed. And abroad TT are going to get a truly unique opportunity to play stadiums, which otherwise would not have been possible. It has been a brilliantly orchestrated plan by all involved. Very impressive. :D

 

I'm touched that I've been accorded the credit for what I said. Also ... if it wasn't about money ... how come they've had a film crew following them about for the last six months (even more) to cover 'The full story'.

 

I did think a few moments ago about going to the concerts. The way Rob said ... 'I'll be singing some of my stuff, the guys will be singing some of their stuff ... and then all of us will be doing something together' .... I mean the arrogance of it (and I don't mean Rob ... I mean all five of them). Those girlie fans screaming 'I've waited ages for our five boys to be together again' will be forking out a fortune for about 20 minutes of action!

 

I really would have gone to the shows if all five of them were together for the whole two hours ... but not now! This is a total cop-out. I really can't be arsed now. We do have one guy out on the lookout for tickets this Friday - he's lucky with every concert he tries for - and we're fickle ... we may change our minds at a later date. So if our detestation of the whole shebang continues ... we'll just shift them on Ebay nearer the dates. Hell ... if Gary, Mark, Rob, Howard and Jason can make money out of this ... I don't see why I shouldn't.

 

Another thing (and this is funny) you know I said I wasn't going to spend my own money ... but suggest people (husband) can buy the album as a stocking filler? Well Al said to me 'I'm not putting a penny in that Tory-backing b*stard's pocket' (I think he means Gary). Ah well ... I'll have to wait 'til its on sale for £4 after Christmas! He is a hypocrite ... he's a Stones fan and there's not a bigger Tory Tw*t than Mick Jagger!

 

Kath

 

Did you miss me ... while I was away?

 

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Thanks ICR :D

 

Very short press conference. Very first question was if Rob is going to be singing solo material and he confirmed he will be doing so. Gary then said there will be fans there to see only Rob, other fans for the TT4 and others for all five and there will be something there for everyone. And of course in the TV advert there is a mix between TT and Rob solo songs to promote the shows. Very clever move it has to be said from a marketing point of view - it doesn alienate the separate fanbases - and means far more people will be going to the shows then if both were separate. They still won't be playing the reported 58 dates though as the media reported - it may be 58 when they include international markets, especially Germany but not a hope in hell for the UK and Ireland alone. Besides 58 dates would not mean 2M tickets but rather over 3.4M. Typical ignorance UK tabloids. :lol:

 

Is that Lulu coming back :unsure: that's all we need B)

Is that Lulu coming back :unsure: that's all we need B)

 

The full, original TT line-up will not be complete without the sixth member. I have heard it rumoured that Nigel Martin-Smith will therefore be doing the Lulu bit in Relight My Fire.

 

Kath

So based on the album title I suspect the setlist will done in progression. Likely to be the following.

 

TT 5 singing the 90's material - Pray, Could It Be Magic, Everything Changes, Back For Good, Never Forver, RMF etc

Rob solo section - LMEY, Come Undone, No Regrets, Feel, Angels, Rock DJ etc plus possibly 'Shame'.

TT 4 singing the hits from the past two albums - Patience, Shine, Rule The World, Greatest Day, Up All Night etc

TT 5 again singing The Flood and other new material from the album. Obviously it is likely they will also sing the biggies from the 90's like BFG and NF at the end too for better effect.

 

Interestingly on Irish radio - people are texting in complaining that the gig in Croker should be free considering Rob will be singing solo and seeing as he has a long-overdue promise of a free gig in that exact venue. :lol: You would think they would have picked the Aviva Stadium to avoid this sort of thing, although I doubt it will effect ticket sales in Dublin. I certainly won't be going though but look forward to seeing it on the telly. ^_^

 

They may announce a second date for Croker ..I would prefer AVIVA, I believe the sound is much better there

“The greatest hits album was number one in 14 countries. My last album sold more than (Take That’s) The Circus. At the risk of sounding like a sourpuss, f**k off,”

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:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: Brilliant!

 

 

I'll be very surprised if they are still talking to each other by the time the tour comes around. It'll be tiaras and tantrums I expect. :lol:

 

Is that Lulu coming back :unsure: that's all we need B)

 

 

We-e-e--e-llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll

 

:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

 

 

 

She must be about 95 by now. Bits of her anyway. -_-

I think I'm going to give this tour a miss. Whilst I'd love to see Robbie again, I'm not shelling out £100 for half an hour or however long his wee segment is. I think I'll just wait for the dvd (and I have no doubt there will be one).

 

As I said to Sparkle earlier, I'd be in danger of throwing myself off the top tier of Hampden if they started to sing Shine. God I hate that song. So much. :arrr:

 

But we'll see. I guess there's an outside chance I'll change my mind before Friday. I don't think so though. :unsure:

We-e-e--e-llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll

 

:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

She must be about 95 by now. Bits of her anyway. -_-

 

 

She needs to start acting her 'effin age ' B)

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It's her accent that kills me. Every time she gets interviewed on UK (ie English) telly she tries to adopt something akin to a Home Counties accent . Then when she comes back up to Scotland for anything she's like 'Hullaw ther Glesga ma wee chinas. How's it gaun?'

 

People that change their accents for different audiences really annoy me. Of course Sheena Easton went the opposite way. She went to America for 2 weeks and returned with an accent straight out of Hollywood Wives. Diddy. <_<

I think I'm going to give this tour a miss. Whilst I'd love to see Robbie again, I'm not shelling out £100 for half an hour or however long his wee segment is. I think I'll just wait for the dvd (and I have no doubt there will be one).

 

As I said to Sparkle earlier, I'd be in danger of throwing myself off the top tier of Hampden if they started to sing Shine. God I hate that song. So much. :arrr:

 

But we'll see. I guess there's an outside chance I'll change my mind before Friday. I don't think so though. :unsure:

 

 

Just in case you do Jups, her'es some additional date news

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCxa5KjKlSI

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I think I'm going to give this tour a miss. Whilst I'd love to see Robbie again, I'm not shelling out £100 for half an hour or however long his wee segment is. I think I'll just wait for the dvd (and I have no doubt there will be one).

 

As I said to Sparkle earlier, I'd be in danger of throwing myself off the top tier of Hampden if they started to sing Shine. God I hate that song. So much. :arrr:

 

But we'll see. I guess there's an outside chance I'll change my mind before Friday. I don't think so though. :unsure:

 

 

I agree. I've nothing against the TT lads, but their music and especially live shows are the opposite of what I would pay to see, so I could not bring myself to spend so much on a ticket. Plus seeing Rob up there doing all the choreographed nonsense would really p*** me off - to such an extent I'd have to be pay the 100 quid to witness it :lol: Mark Owen said it would be like the circus but bigger . It's a shame us solo only fans and the TT4 only fans can't just buy reduced tickets for just the parts we want and then leave. :lol:

 

And welcome back Kathy. Were you away on holiday?

I agree. I've nothing against the TT lads, but their music and especially live shows are the opposite of what I would pay to see, so I could not bring myself to spend so much on a ticket. Plus seeing Rob up there doing all the choreographed nonsense would really p*** me off - to such an extent I'd have to be pay the 100 quid to witness it :lol: Mark Owen said it would be like the circus but bigger . It's a shame us solo only fans and the TT4 only fans can't just buy reduced tickets for just the parts we want and then leave. :lol:

 

And welcome back Kathy. Were you away on holiday?

 

I'm still a bit in a quandarry about all this tour stuff. I really had got used to the idea of Rob being on stage with the other four ... but if I'm paying to see a concert that is, lets face it, bragging about and playing on the big 'reunion' business ... it is a total cop-out to be doing it the way they are. Why didn't they just announce it as Take That ... with Special Guest Robbie Williams or Robbie Williams with Special Guests Take That ... then they could quite legitimately perform it as a Rob solo slot, Take That (4) slot, and then a bit of nostalgia together doing the old hits. The whole thing just screams 'Money, Money, Money'. To me ... there is no point in going if you are staunchly a Rob fan, a Take That fan or even a Take That (5) fan ... as you'll be paying for a whole concert but only be truly satisfied with a 3rd of it. Does that make sense?

 

Kath

 

Yes ... I had a fabulous time ... just a pain having to come back a day early (I've just started a new job and felt bad asking to swap a day so early on). Went down to Somerset to see an old friend and her family. Visited the Grand Pier at Weston-Super-Mare (newly re-opened after a fire a couple of years back). Loads of walks with a labrador in the glorious Somerset countryside ... and the weather was fabulous! Plus a few bottles of very nice wine were supped!

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As I have always enjoyed Robbie live AND I enjoyed TT live last year I am assuming I will enjoy the Progress tour?

 

altho may need a trip to loo if he sings Angels :puke2:

 

You'll enjoy it fine. You love everybody :P

 

 

not everybody - I can quite selective when the need arises -_-

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