I've had a listen and if it were Olly Murs singing this, as it's a similar sounding type of song imo, then it would probably end up top 5, as it's Westlife and the airplay will be poor, #16.

Top 10 my arse!!!! #36ish. (32-38)

TOP 10 I THINK

Nice to know so many people commented without even listening.

 

It's by far a much better song than Safe. It's hard to tell how it will do though, the fanbase certianly like it (it came 2nd in the official poll behind 'I Will Reach You') so that should garantee them top 20 IMO. Whether it will or won't make top 10 is going to come completely down to radio airplay though. It's a more radio friendly song than Safe, but with Safe not doing well it could potentionally put radio off supporting them. However, Radio 2 have played this twice already when the album was released.

 

It'll be ashame if this is the song to end their top 10 streak when it's a billion times better than that of 'Home', 'Mandy', 'When You Tell Me You Love Me' etc.

 

I'm going to predict #8 (UK) with the assumption that they will get fairly good radio backing and they will bulk their tv promo to the first two weeks of the songs release. #6 in Ireland.

 

so what? One of their best songs ever ended their Top 5 run, US AGAINST THE WORLD!

FLOP!

 

Terrible song. :(

Sounds like a Bruno Mars 'Amazing' rip off, only with more production behind it. Infact I found myself singing 'Amazing' as soon as the chorus started..

I usually like most westlife singles! (although when you get to listen to a lot of them ane after the other they get boring-to-death).

It is not great but not bad either... I just prefer both safe and (by a mile) what about now. But honestly after how bad safe has done, I don't think it is going to make an impression. If sales are low it may get a bit higher but I can see it having a top20 peak...

 

The album is doing slightly better than their last one but I would call it dead (chartwise) already... It would be a twist if Westlife manage to push either the album or the new single back to the top10.

so what? One of their best songs ever ended their Top 5 run, US AGAINST THE WORLD!

 

Why did you quote me any say that? I don't understand what it has to do with my post...?

Why did you quote me any say that? I don't understand what it has to do with my post...?

 

probably i tried to quote the previous post or somethin, sry mate! :P

Though I'm not generally a fan of Westlife singles (probably about 1/4 are bearable, many are simply $h!te), I would like them to keep up their all-top 10s run. Girls Aloud and the Spice Girls (and Pink and Blue) broke theirs with number 11s, so it would be good if Westlife could keep theirs up.

 

It won't, though. Top 20. Probably another number 11...

Though I'm not generally a fan of Westlife singles (probably about 1/4 are bearable, many are simply $h!te), I would like them to keep up their all-top 10s run. Girls Aloud and the Spice Girls (and Pink and Blue) broke theirs with number 11s, so it would be good if Westlife could keep theirs up.

 

It won't, though. Top 20. Probably another number 11...

 

they have 25! however. It's still a big number and if the downloads never entered the charts, westlife wouldn't not even break their top 5 run, never! also they might had more number ones! :P

they have 25! however. It's still a big number and if the downloads never entered the charts, westlife wouldn't not even break their top 5 run, never! also they might had more number ones! :P

 

But downloads did happen and SyCo never took advatnage of it for them.

Nice to hear that the lads are hoping for some remixes of this, I also think if they had an acoustic version it would really help too.

If you don't have multiple versions you are automatically putting yourself at a disadvantage. Hopefully they will have this time, I really want to hear a good remix of this song!

All i hope for is that it goes top 20. Anything more is just an amazing bonus!

They need to leave syco!

Top20 at best. Its pretty bad. I not a fan at all and some of their ballads actually are quite good. But this is just rubbish

Top20 at best. Its pretty bad. I not a fan at all and some of their ballads actually are quite good. But this is just rubbish

 

not a fan of it either. It's probably the first time i am not looking forward to having a new single from westlife. . .

- Complaint 1 - There is no option on the poll for a likely outcome..."pulled"..."withdrawn"... ie it wont even get a chance to be the certifiable HUMONGOUS flop (top 10? NURSE! The STRAITJACKET!) it would otherwise be. How come the MEGA relevance that the Gravity album (the (financial) point of single releases unless HUGE hits) just died on its arse (ie #13>#37 !!!!) last week has failed to even get a single mention in this thread??? Despite the unbelievable irony of the title of the trk 'Safe' this lead flop on the epic level nowhere near Westlife has ever experienced has hastened their commercial chart death further still.

 

- Complaint 2 - i thought some BJ members were ardent supporters of chart integrity but their presence and their slaughtering of such shocking lack of the concept of fair play throughout this thread is sadly absent - i can only assume them having such superior chart knowledge + wisdom to realize that WL are most certainly over and have little significance to anything or anyone anymore, so there's no need for their efforts, karma has caught up with WL at last!.

 

- Anything along the lines of "it would be a shame for this song to end their Top 10 run"

 

P-A-R-D-O-N!!!!!

 

The only SHAME is WL(ie following their renown PUPPET MASTERS (morality free)Cowel etc) and their INTEGRITY FREE, CYNICAL,REPUGNANT, + SLY MANIPULATION + ORCHESTRATION of the charts - the endless last minute release date jumping around, the releasing 1 less post album release single as their chart success dwindles to delay the inevitable loss of their top 10 run TILL they only released ONE from "Where we are" :D:D:D They simply don't deserve the chart run they've had because the degree of desperate tactics they used isn't comparable to any other act (exception eg"busted" + their endless ringtone/chart gimmicks - just being legal does not make it ethical/fairplay)

 

they have 25! however. It's still a big number and if the downloads never entered the charts, westlife wouldn't not even break their top 5 run, never! also they might had more number ones! :P

- Rather like me saying Kylie would have more top 10 hits and #1 if it weren't for downloads and/or if VINYL still sold as well as it used to in the 80's. You can't use the excuse of technological evolution to explain the lack of success of an act, since some acts can survive, EVEN thrive in it perfectly well, its WL's lack of appeal to a new generation of music buyers that is the problem, the advantages and disadvantages of the new technology are applied equally to all acts just as they were with other previous advances in music recording + playing technology over recent decades.

 

- Similar comparisons further point out it is MERE LUCK more than anything else that WL have achieved the chart run they have;

 

The single chart environment into which WL arrived and for the most part of their career was marked by records debuting at their peak and(at least sales) dropping off at huge rates, the hype/huge promo rushes happened before the release date - chart life was shorter. Both the further forward/backward you go from the late 90s/early00s(download era) the more the reverse the nature of the chart.Getting any/all your singles to have top of the chart peaks become progressively more difficult eg now releasing a post album release single there is no way to built up sales to a release date because the track is already available to download from the album. When Kylie had her initial few years of success it was UNUSUAL for new entries near the top of the chart, heavy metal was the main exception just as exceptional as the short chart life it was too associated - records tended to be slow moving/stabler/less records making higher peak positions even though they sold the same overall as they hung around longer at lower position much like the download chart today, instead of the endless new entires in the Top 10 of one to fall out by the next week + replaced by new entries,in the late 90's. Basically you have to take into account the nature of the chart of the time or look at the overall sales of a record from different time periods for a fair comparison and this is where WL success has become artificially inflated eg Kylie only had half the consecutive chart run of top 10 hits since her DEBUT/first ever record on the chart,however given what i've just said about the smaller chance of getting high peaks in that chart era for Kylie its clearly much easier to score top 10 hits in WL's era ie WL would never have managed that 25 run back in the 80's - the average number of sales for a top 10 record are vastly greater then for top 10 record in the debut high then bomb the next week or 2 chart climate of WL. eg OVERALL SALES Very few of WL top charting hits have anything other than achingly average unremarkable sales they would have had corresponding. MUCH lower less remarkable peaks in the 80's/ early 90's.

 

EXCESSIVE/DEGREE of use of 'COVER VERSIONS': both the essentially "ready made" "success pre-proven" huge classics they murder.Also the blinding classic that didn't get any attention by the media the first time round/never given a release then WL do a poor man's version which gets(at least just some) airplay + becomes a hit for them from someone else talents (+ since they aren't a solo act what incredible talent do they then all offer if they don't even write the majority of material they had hits with (its too late that they "appear" to have involvement now :blush:) ie a few of them have no worthy contribution basically just surplus to requirement - few artists use cover versions to the extent of WL so thats another unfair tactic they used.

 

- Other comments;

 

The title says 'Predict', not 'Do you like this song?'

im sick of westlife . They dont Write $h!t and only 2 ever sings solo parts . The other 2 just stand there . Harmonies my ass they do f*** all

Seriously neat biting remarks guys - just a shame there appears so few on a such thread so badly of need :(

 

 

- Airplay; "Safe" could not have caused/cost them too loose virtually all Airplay (peak airplay was something the odd 100 plays in 1 week http://209.85.12.227/431/162/emo/yowza.gif MORE than if they had all just been publicly convicted for padeophilia. There is NO WAY, WHATEVER song they release next, that their Airplay will rebound to ANY significant or beneficial extent. Radio are sick + tired to their cowardly lack of (degree) of taking risks/changing their bland + life force sucking insipid formula as the rest of us. Their tvplay finished ages ago and their "Big TV show" promo will dry up now there commercial success is - no sales from the public because they never here your records + that even successful tours don't guarantee record deals only means ONE thing ;)

 

Sounds like a Bruno Mars 'Amazing' rip off, only with more production behind it. Infact I found myself singing 'Amazing' as soon as the chorus started..

<'Victor Meldrew' voice> I DON'T BELIEVE IT! Westlife doing a COVER? http://209.85.12.227/431/162/emo/yowza.gif

 

- Given how shocking badly in ALL aspects 'Safe' did it seems quite an achievement the album managed platinum in the UK however it is NOT doing better than the last one (WWA), given that it now irreversibly dead, bombed so low down the chart where sales are post Xmas NON-EXISTENT, due to;

 

1) Despite 'Gravity' having 1 extra week in the sales weeks preceding Xmas than WWA it sold ~100k LESS than their last album still!

 

2)MAJOR RELEVANCE - INTERNATIONAL = essentially DEAD since release, a WL album has NEVER, EVER performed as poorly as this before (obviously the Irish sales are too insignificant to matter internationally) a UK platinum selling album ALONE is debatable if the Record Co. will end up any profit after all the expenses have been taken into account. Given how ruthless Syco are....

They need to leave syco!

...from what i've said above you know won't have to wait long - they just won't have the hassle of it being a 'choice' ;)

 

-What is it with the WL Loons on this thread not only do they not seem to read the threads they contribute to on the WL forum they come from, they don't even seem to have read their OWN posts their? :blink:

It will go top 20 but its pretty below average stuff - even for a Westlife single.

Edited January 9, 201114 yr by sasha2

Kylie fan, i can't believe you wasted a part of your life writing up that huge post.

We as westlife fans love westlife in a very special way. They never pretend to be superstars, they never got so loud. . . They were always quiet and decent guys with very little earnings! UK hates them because they were lucky to have so many No.1's. I admit it some songs didn't deserve to be, but Westlife don't deserve what they get. I mean they are a bit underrated as singers, even from their record company. Their record company since 2002 used them just to sell 1 million albums and 200.000 singles every november. . . It wasn't westlife fault. However we love westlife, we don't love either simon or his choices. . .

I love how someone honestly said that 12years of top 10 singles was down to luck! I wish I had luck to last that long. Apart from that it is completely untrue, they built up a massive and very loyal fanbase throughout the first three albums and their GH, and a lot of them have stuck with Westlife. That's not luck, thats making your fans feel appreciated and giving them what they want, which for the majority of the time they did. It's only been recently I've started to feel that the fanbase isn't liking what Westlife put out anymore and with one single per album it's hard to justify staying a fan. But luckily they feel the same away as you can hear from this interview:

 

 

SyCo would be stupid to let them go, their last album sold just under 500,000 from one single and very little promo, they don't have that garantee with any other act. But I think it would be much much better for Westlife too leave SyCo and to sign up to someone like Mercury.

 

Back to BT, I think it's their first step to putting things right. From John Shanks tweets, it seems the recorded the video before they went on their christmas break. If they get the promo right and do a radio tour I think top 15 is very likely as it's one of the fans favourites. However, if SyCo are lazy like they were with Joe's second single and Alexandras 'The Silence' it could be a very different story. Like I said in my earlier post, it's all about radio airplay now, much more than before. They NEED to get radio back on their side, touring 10 radio stations in the whole of the UK, none in the London isn't going to massively increase their airplay. I do think overall this will outsell Safe though.