June 8, 201114 yr ^^ Yeah, but there's a second (and maybe third) single before the album! And the only promo they are gonna do is small-ish shows like Daybreak, Lorraine and maybe Alan Carr.....
June 8, 201114 yr This is on air/on sale, the single is by no means over, you've got to treat it like it's a single after an album is released. Most of their promo will be aimed at the release week for the physical and digital bundles in hope of it peaking in that week. But this has never happened on this sort of chart-scale when the single has been released after the album. I don't re-call any of their singles that were released after the album bombing then climbing when the physical copy was out. It has always been a steady increase in sales, or a stable position (Ala Higher sticking Top 30 for agessssss). Never has one of their post-album singles bombed before the physical release. The single looks like an embaressment for them now, I hate to say it. Before I get shouted at, I know they haven't promoted it yet, and I know they're going to; but because this has bombed down the chart (meaning a lack of interest is surrounding it) the less the radio stations and video channels are going to continue supporting it regardless whether it has been released physically or not. The radio and video support is there at the moment, but people are not buying it which is worrying. They have taken a gamble doing this on air/on sale lark, and so far it has not paid off - whether it was "meant to" do this or not. Their management/label have always believed that The Sats are bigger than they really are which is why I believe they went for on air/on sale in the end - why else would they do it? I don't see any other groups that are doing it, especially girl groups. Their pre-album singles have always sold a decent amount, always over 100k - at the moment I don't see Notorious even out-selling If This Is Love. Of course this is all part of a bigger picture here; Their management thinking they are bigger than they are therefore not pushing them to the next level. They should have staggered the promo out. There is no way these average morning daytime shows are going to give the boost Notorious needs, back into the Top 10. Unless they have something huge planned, but this is The Saturdays we're talking about, lets not get our hopes up. The sad thing is, even if on air/on sale dosen't work for Notorious, I bet you they'll still go ahead and do it for the next pre-album singles, and if Notorious flops and sells less than their debut single they'll blame the failure on "It was a buzz single". And on a down note, I'm tired of Notorious already :mellow: :(
June 8, 201114 yr ^^ Well said! Couldn't have put it better myself - But I'm so worried that they're gonna do the same for the 2nd single :/ And it kinda makes me wonder, do they pay any attention to the charts? If you had a song falling from #8 to #21, and #28 in mid-weeks, I'm pretty sure you'd promote it!
June 8, 201114 yr Last night a Spanish radio station premiered Notorious...it doesn't mean they're gonna get playlisted, but we are on the right way. The program has a big presence on Facebook and Twitter, so I'm getting all the Spanish fans to put some pressure on them. If anyone wants to show some support, just look for "Euroclub EuropaFM" on Facebook and 'like' one of the comments that make reference to the song. Edit: Actually one of the presenters 'liked' my post on Facebook, so that's a good sign. Edited June 8, 201114 yr by The47thbelmon
June 8, 201114 yr But this has never happened on this sort of chart-scale when the single has been released after the album. I don't re-call any of their singles that were released after the album bombing then climbing when the physical copy was out. It has always been a steady increase in sales, or a stable position (Ala Higher sticking Top 30 for agessssss). Never has one of their post-album singles bombed before the physical release. The single looks like an embaressment for them now, I hate to say it. Before I get shouted at, I know they haven't promoted it yet, and I know they're going to; but because this has bombed down the chart (meaning a lack of interest is surrounding it) the less the radio stations and video channels are going to continue supporting it regardless whether it has been released physically or not. The radio and video support is there at the moment, but people are not buying it which is worrying. They have taken a gamble doing this on air/on sale lark, and so far it has not paid off - whether it was "meant to" do this or not. Their management/label have always believed that The Sats are bigger than they really are which is why I believe they went for on air/on sale in the end - why else would they do it? I don't see any other groups that are doing it, especially girl groups. Their pre-album singles have always sold a decent amount, always over 100k - at the moment I don't see Notorious even out-selling If This Is Love. Of course this is all part of a bigger picture here; Their management thinking they are bigger than they are therefore not pushing them to the next level. They should have staggered the promo out. There is no way these average morning daytime shows are going to give the boost Notorious needs, back into the Top 10. Unless they have something huge planned, but this is The Saturdays we're talking about, lets not get our hopes up. The sad thing is, even if on air/on sale dosen't work for Notorious, I bet you they'll still go ahead and do it for the next pre-album singles, and if Notorious flops and sells less than their debut single they'll blame the failure on "It was a buzz single". And on a down note, I'm tired of Notorious already :mellow: :( the label haven't been lazy or the band IMO, they will all be working their butts off when it comes near the physical release. OA/OS isn't supposed to produce big hits straight away (if it does thats a bonus) it's meant to stamp down on illegal downloading. Songs should eventually climb to their peaks. Much like the chart runs of most post album single releases.
June 8, 201114 yr the label haven't been lazy or the band IMO, they will all be working their butts off when it comes near the physical release. OA/OS isn't supposed to produce big hits straight away (if it does thats a bonus) it's meant to stamp down on illegal downloading. Songs should eventually climb to their peaks. Much like the chart runs of most post album single releases. They have been extremely lazy - letting members of the band go on holiday, and their management going away on release week too! This will look like a total embaressment when then drops out of the Top 40 in a week or two. I'm all for the physical release too like Una said she still believes in them - but doing all the promo in that week is a massive mistake. By the time the physical release comes round, it may still be bombing down the charts, therefore loosing valuable radio and video support which right now they need the most to keep Notorious alive. The Sats have always worked on air/on sale before with 'Issues', 'Ego' and 'Higher' some of their biggest post-album sellers, and Notorious is following in no such light which is worrying. I would have included work but it wasn't one of their most successful singles that also followed the OA/OS method. If I was their label/management group whatever, or whoever is in-charge of sorting the promotion out, they should have been perforing this on TV at least once a week to keep Notorious a-float. If all the promo they have for release week is the daytime rubbish then they'd be lucky to get it in the Top 20 again.
June 8, 201114 yr I completely agree with 2ndAdventure. Imagine the girls were doing minimal promo throughout the weeks between the digital and physical release. I mean just enough to be in the public eye and have a continuous buzz but not overexpose and get the public to be sick of them. They've made a major mistake, if they were showing their faces everywhere and their single staying in the top 20 for about a month and then re-entering the top 10 with the physical release they would've been taken much more seriously as that would have been much harder work. Edited June 8, 201114 yr by Jaynote
June 8, 201114 yr ^^ Yes, you're right! You know, the people onn here should really manage The Saturdays. We'd do a much better job!
June 8, 201114 yr My predictions for the rest of the year... Notorious charts (this week) #30 - # 45 - # 57 - # 38 - # 46 - # 65 - # 81 - # 83 - # OUT Single #2 is much more 'Saturdays' style than Notorious. Great song. Video gets released about 7 weeks before "official release" (CD/promo) but the song gets released on iTunes regardless and charts at #12 or something then has a similiar chart run to Notorious. Third single then gets completely overshadowed by X-Factor and underperforms as well. Album goes top ten but plummets. Tour goes ahead but fails to sell out (as expected) and half the seats get blacked off. Another single gets released, they go on a long break, return at the end of 2012 for a Greatest Hits album and split.
June 8, 201114 yr Haha talk about putting it bluntly shadow2009 haha! But I couldn't agree anymore. They are so irritating. If that did happen to them I wouldn't feel sorry for them to be honest.
June 8, 201114 yr We were discussing their Greatest Hits CD on PopJustice the other day. They would have a fantastic GH disk - all their singles have been above average. There's not one that I could pick out and think "I hate that one, skip it". Surely some are better than others, but they have all been very good pop singles. Even if this album bombs (which I hope it dosen't, because this album sounds like it has some very solid foundations) next year the label will comission their Greatest Hits collection regardless.
June 8, 201114 yr Unless they pull something amazing out of the bag to pull this back I am willing to write Notorious on the UK charts off. If it continues going the way it currently is, I hope it will be seen as a lesson gone VERY wrong and the managment/girls learn from it. It was very weird to have a release week without being begged by twitter/facebook to download their new *amazing* single. The only problem with this is, if they don't recover this, they have got flop sales to their name for a brand new single, so radio one my be less willing to play list their next single as a consequence of this.
June 8, 201114 yr I'm just fed up. Sats and their fans have been going round in circles for seemingly years now. :( Wordshaker era. One single rises iTunes quickly, we stan and think "possible #1?!?!" but then underperforms, and it's "awww :(". Second single is much better, scrapes the top ten and gets 'good' sales. Album goes top ten, goes down the chart with no real staying power. Fans discuss possible next singles. Fans then talk about the next era. 'Oh maybe they'll blow up this era!", "If they release the right single here, and then the next single in time for an X-Factor performance they could be huge!", 'I have good vibes about this era...' Silence for months. Headlines era One single rises iTunes quickly, we stan and think "possible #1?!?!" but then underperforms, and it's "awww :(". Second single is much better, scrapes the top ten and gets 'good' sales. Album goes top ten, goes down the chart with no real staying power. Fans discuss possible next singles. Fans then talk about the next era. 'Oh maybe they'll blow up this era!", "If they release the right single here, and then the next single in time for an X-Factor performance they could be huge!", 'I have good vibes about this era...' Silence for months. Now we're onto another era. We've already done the 'One single rises iTunes quickly...' part. Check. Will the rest happen? I doubt it because if the second single is OA/OS then it'll probably flop, too which means the album will also flop.
June 9, 201114 yr I'm in India, so only seeing updates every few days.... and every few days it has drtopped another 10 places lol. Bring back Jayne Collins, she would have never allowed this ridiculous on air on sale strategy.
June 9, 201114 yr They have been extremely lazy - letting members of the band go on holiday, and their management going away on release week too! You forget that going to holiday for those days (it wasn't even a full week and there were different days for each girl) takes out the option to take holidays during the summer. From now on they'll be working on the promo for Notorious and completing the album, then summer will come and they'll have festivals in UK and international promotion, so the time for resting was that week.
June 9, 201114 yr You forget that going to holiday for those days (it wasn't even a full week and there were different days for each girl) takes out the option to take holidays during the summer. From now on they'll be working on the promo for Notorious and completing the album, then summer will come and they'll have festivals in UK and international promotion, so the time for resting was that week. I don't believe for a second that they wont have another opertunity, of course they will. If not Una will just blag to Peter (It was Jayne before) that she's going away whether they like or not because she "wasn't been on a holiday in ages" even though they had festivals coming up. I'm not saying that they shouldn't have holidays, I'm saying they shouldn't have one when they are releasing - it's inapropriate. Their management are a bad example for them since they all went away as well. Ideally, they should have at least done another tv performance that week. Like I've been saying, the promo for Notorious wont do anything if it keeps on bombing down iTunes as radio and TV are going to be less likely to keep up the support for it, whether it has been released physically or not yet. If it's daytime shows they've got, they have no hope in hell of this going back Top 10.
June 9, 201114 yr I'm curious about what are they filming...a TV advert? UnaHealy Got some meetings and filming at our label then road trip with all @TheSaturdays to Newcastle for a show tonight!
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