It was not a flop. 3 Top 10 smashes from 1 album is something Girls Aloud and The Saturdays can't even achieve anymore. This also against all the negativity they were faced with after Keisha left, this era was actually remarkable. The group held it together and proved they are still relevant and can still smash on the charts even with a highly controvertial member change. The album would have done a lot better had 'Wait For You' been released as the 4th single or in place of 'About A Girl', and that was the mistake of the label. With no 4th single, the amount of confusion surrounding its release date and all the unnecessary and bias negative reviews it had, the album actually did better than I had expected...

I particularly giggled at '3 top-10 smashes'. 'Wear My Kiss' got to around #170 in the year-end chart of 2010. Even bloody 'Girls' got top-75 with the autumn release! Album is a flop, and they didn't massively sell singles, so overall it was a flop.

I particularly giggled at '3 top-10 smashes'. 'Wear My Kiss' got to around #170 in the year-end chart of 2010. Even bloody 'Girls' got top-75 with the autumn release! Album is a flop, and they didn't massively sell singles, so overall it was a flop.

The singles were a success, the album was obviously was not. But it was inevitable the album would not be a success considering the conditions and contributing factors. The next album will obviously do a lot better though.

We're not talking singles here we're talking the whole era. Anyone who says it was a success is a lunatic. The proceeds from global album sales alone probably didn't even cover the costs of Jade rerecording her parts. And why are you so confident the next album will be a success. Right now they are indistinguishable from other girl groups out there and those are all doing even worse.

If the era was not a success, they would have not had THREE top 10 hits, they would have not been able to form a new group AND hold that group together under bad press. If the era was not a success, the group would have been dropped. Please remember we are talking about the Sugababes, not The Saturdays. So there is going to be a lot of anticipation to see if Sugababes can redeem themselves with the upcoming era after the bad reception of the last, unlike The Sats who bring poor albums out every year that nobody could be bothered in buying...

Besides, the singles sales are pretty much unimportant for the labels unless they are damn hot huge. Only 'Push the Button', 'About You Now' and maybe 'Hole in the Head' (as it was a worldwide success) sales are up to these standards. Selling one album (before the discount kicks in) is equal to selling 8-10 singles.

 

We could argue about flopness of 'Catfights & Spotlights' with its 200k worldwide album sales (which the current girl-band the Saturdays is struggling to get) but the verdict to 'Sour 7' could be only one: epic flop!

 

EDIT: noticed another post.

 

Please remember we are talking about the Sugababes, not The Saturdays.

Hence they are getting the second (er.. second?) chance, only because of the fact that these three ladies are under the name of Sugababes, not because 'Sour 7' era wasn't a flop. And they basically WERE the Saturdays during the Sour 7 era: they were an image-oriented girl-group with generic pleasant and absolutely not outstanding songs which everyone personality-less could sing. Maybe they were a trend-followers during the C&S era but at least they still had a unique sound for a girl-group.

 

I wish the Sugababes 4.0 the best of luck but I don't have high hopes either for the quality of music or for the chart performance.

Edited April 13, 201114 yr by Arrs

Noone has the patience the wait for a throwaway girlband to redeem themselves over and over again to recover from yet another flop era (like Arrs said, C&S also produced highly underwhelming results) . Clearly there's an optimist in charge of them at Island or a very good lobbyist at the 'babes management.

 

Either way - when you want to consider whether an album ERA was a success or not, put on the hat of the record company exec and see what they would think.

 

FLOP and close the thread.

Edited April 13, 201114 yr by Andrew*

Sugababes are still a leading a girl group despite Sweet 7 being less successful than their previous albums. The fact that they were still able to score THREE top ten hits and not be dropped speaks enough for the era's success. Especially considering the 4.0 fiasco.

 

Lets compare it to other girl bands, The Saturdays or GA can't score 3 top 10 hits from a single album, other major girl groups like All Saints with Studio 1 for example flopped and got dropped following group splitting and a similar like fiasco plus lots of bad press much like Sweet 7. FOR EXAMPLE: If GA were to comeback with an album that did not feature Cheryl Chav Cole, would they score 3 top ten hits and avoid being dropped with the album's inevitable poor sales? No. I think I have made my point.

Are you seriously basing ALL your argumentation on the fact that they scored 3 Top 10 singles? So basically you're suggesting that for Girls Aloud Out Of Control ERA was a flop becuase they didn't manage that? Singles don't generate any income

 

And please refrain from from using patronising nicknames, first they're incredibly childish and secondly they emphasize your bias even more

Edited April 13, 201114 yr by Andrew*

Of for the love of god!

 

 

Listen loon thing, the era was a disgusting flop. The album barely sold 25k in the UK if it has even managed to reach that.

 

World wide it hasn't even cleared 35k.

 

 

 

When Mutya Buena can out sell you by 5x then you know you've more than f***ing flopped.

 

 

You can harp on about 3 top 10 singles all you want, but the fact is not a single one of them cleared 200k. In the past couple of years sales have risen to the point that a top10 hit by someone like the Sugababes should sell 350k without breaking a sweat. The singles made losses because they just didn't sell. Nothing about this era can even remotely be considered successful.

 

 

So get your head out of Jade's vag and wake up to the facts. This era was a flop, it was in no way successful. Only in the most deluded of 4.0 loons minds would this be anything other than an epic fail. The fact that it was the Sugababes makes it even worse. Mutya left midway through Taller In More Ways and the first single with Amelle outsold Ugly iirc. Had their been no line up change this album was still going to flop. Why might you ask, it's simple. It was overly generic and try hard. That is why the abonination that is Sweet 7 deservedly flopped.

 

 

END OF DISCUSSION

I'm closing this topic for the following reasons:

 

1] The era was a flop. Anyone with a brain and sanity can clearly see that. There is nothing to discuss, ergo closing.

2] To stop ridiculous arguments like the above from continuing or starting.

3] There is no need for this topic full stop. Why dear god would anyone even think about calling it a success????

 

 

I only kept it open for this long as everything had been going to my satisfaction, but now a 4.0 Loon has demonstrated why i can't stand them it has to be closed.

 

 

Blame the 4.0 loon.