These are my results based on the current odds but without allowing for neighbour/diaspora votes.

 

1. Sweden (224)

2. Bulgaria (199)

3. United Kingdom (177)

4. Denmark (172)

5. Bosnia Herzegovina (162)

6. Cyprus (147)

7. Turkey (144)

8. Germany (141)

9. Ukraine (128)

10. Hungary (103)

11. Azerbaijan (101)

12. Norway (97)

13. Italy (97)

14. Slovenia (91)

15. Ireland (83)

16. Finland (70)

17. Romania (62)

18. Spain (60)

19. Georgia (59)

20. Switzerland (59)

21. Estonia (48)

22. Portugal (29)

23. Armenia (24)

24. Greece (17)

25. France (0)

Right, I've had another go and Russia has taken the win. Big improvement for Estonia, winning the SF and top 5 in the Final. UK slightly worse in 6th, France really struggled this time. Shame Slovenia & Slovakia didn't qualify :)

 

FINAL

 

1. Russia (196)

2. Bosnia Herzegovina (189)

3. Sweden (175)

4. Azerbaijan (155)

5. Estonia (154)

6. United Kingdom (132)

7. Serbia (114)

8. Belarus (110)

9. Poland (108)

10. France (106)

11. Armenia (106)

12. Finland (96)

13. Denmark (94)

14. Germany (88)

15. Romania (87)

16. Switzerland (80)

17. Moldova (69)

18. Hungary (68)

19. Cyprus (66)

20. Austria (66)

21. Spain (61)

22. Italy (60)

23. Israel (49)

24. Norway (33)

25. Georgia (32)

 

SEMI 1

1. Russia (147)

2. Azerbaijan (126)

3. Poland (113)

4. Hungary (109)

5. Armenia (94)

6. Serbia (83)

7. Finland (77)

8. Norway (76)

9. Georgia (70)

10. Switzerland (67)

11. Turkey (50)

12. Iceland (49)

13. Croatia (46)

14. Lithuania (35)

15. Greece (24)

16. San Marino (21)

17. Albania (20)

18. Portugal (9)

19. Malta (2)

 

SEMI 2

1. Estonia (162)

2. Sweden (147)

3. Austria (112)

4. Belarus (110)

5. Denmark (103)

6. Bosnia Herzegovina (101)

7. Moldova (83)

8. Cyprus (72)

9. Romania (63)

10. Israel (62)

11. Bulgaria (57)

12. Slovenia (51)

13. Ukraine (47)

14. Netherlands (36)

15. Ireland (33)

16. Latvia (14)

17. FYR Macedonia (11)

18. Belgium (10)

19. Slovakia (2)

1. Norway (219)

2. Sweden (219)

3. Estonia (214)

4. France (197)

5. Georgia (177)

6. Germany (158)

7. Azerbaijan (130)

8. Russia (111)

9. Armenia (98)

10. Hungary (97)

11. Greece (89)

12. Israel (89)

13. Belarus (78)

14. Ireland (77)

15. Finland (76)

16. Poland (73)

17. Switzerland (70)

18. Belgium (69)

19. Slovenia (65)

20. Bosnia Herzegovina (64)

21. Denmark (39)

22. Italy (37)

23. Romania (37)

24. United Kingdom (7)

25. Spain (4)

 

ITS A TIE. An exciting tie too, because Sweden shot themselves in the foot at the end by giving Norway 12! Not quite sure how UK ended up with 7 despite having odds turned on but alas.

 

 

SF1

 

1. Norway (130)

2. Azerbaijan (122)

3. Georgia (110)

4. Poland (97)

5. Finland (96)

6. Greece (92)

7. Switzerland (80)

8. Hungary (70)

9. Russia (69)

10. Armenia (66)

11. Albania (61)

12. Turkey (46)

13. Portugal (45)

14. Serbia (41)

15. Croatia (28)

16. Lithuania (24)

17. San Marino (20)

18. Iceland (18)

19. Malta (3)

 

 

SF2

 

1. Sweden (155)

2. Estonia (152)

3. Slovenia (113)

4. Ireland (108)

5. Belarus (101)

6. Denmark (78)

7. Bosnia Herzegovina (77)

8. Israel (65)

9. Belgium (62)

10. Romania (58)

11. Moldova (54)

12. Austria (47)

13. Slovakia (46)

14. Cyprus (46)

15. Latvia (42)

16. Ukraine (26)

17. FYR Macedonia (19)

18. Bulgaria (17)

19. Netherlands (10)

Argh but now we have to do countback! Who got more 12s?

1. Iceland (268)

2. Azerbaijan (210)

3. Armenia (198)

4. Germany (151)

5. Slovakia (126)

6. Russia (126)

7. Estonia (126)

8. Sweden (124)

9. Turkey (120)

10. Ireland (112)

11. Denmark (96)

12. Poland (92)

13. Malta (87)

14. United Kingdom (85)

15. Norway (84)

16. Bosnia Herzegovina (78)

17. Finland (72)

18. Italy (66)

19. Moldova (58)

20. Georgia (51)

21. Romania (50)

22. Israel (48)

23. Austria (33)

24. Spain (32)

25. France (1)

 

Iceland? :mellow: And yes that was with odds. Poor France :snif:

The simulator is BIZARRE. It seems to have one of the favourites catastrophically failing every time.

Is that not what tends to happen in real life anyways?

To the degree of them only getting 1-10 points?

Hmmm...well to the degree of them majorly flopping yes, except for 2009.

 

2006 - Belgium

2007 - Switzerland

2008 - Sweden

2010 - Croatia

1. Azerbaijan (263)

2. United Kingdom (256)

3. France (231)

4. Germany (173)

5. Russia (142)

6. Bosnia Herzegovina (137)

7. Romania (118)

8. Turkey (114)

9. Spain (108)

10. Norway (106)

11. Hungary (93)

12. Austria (91)

13. Armenia (86)

14. Israel (83)

15. Finland (71)

16. Moldova (64)

17. Ukraine (62)

18. Denmark (58)

19. Italy (46)

20. Estonia (45)

21. Ireland (41)

22. Greece (38)

23. Georgia (35)

24. Poland (33)

25. Slovakia (0)

 

 

 

1. Azerbaijan (145)

2. Hungary (140)

3. Norway (108)

4. Russia (108)

5. Finland (95)

6. Armenia (90)

7. Turkey (87)

8. Poland (70)

9. Georgia (68)

10. Greece (65)

11. Switzerland (61)

12. Serbia (51)

13. Iceland (27)

14. Albania (26)

15. Lithuania (22)

16. Croatia (20)

17. Portugal (15)

18. San Marino (13)

19. Malta (7)

 

 

1. Estonia (138)

2. Ireland (126)

3. Moldova (123)

4. Bosnia Herzegovina (111)

5. Romania (106)

6. Denmark (104)

7. Austria (84)

8. Ukraine (67)

9. Slovakia (61)

10. Israel (59)

11. Belarus (55)

12. Latvia (55)

13. Sweden (54)

14. FYR Macedonia (48)

15. Netherlands (35)

16. Belgium (27)

17. Slovenia (12)

18. Bulgaria (8)

19. Cyprus (3)

 

 

Estonia, Moldova and Ireland :mellow:

 

 

Also, 3 of the Big 5 countries in the Top 4 :o

1. France (276)

2. Estonia (271)

3. United Kingdom (165)

4. Romania (156)

5. Azerbaijan (150)

6. Germany (147)

7. Sweden (134)

8. Norway (132)

9. Hungary (130)

10. Armenia (126)

11. Greece (103)

12. Denmark (79)

13. Slovenia (73)

14. Italy (70)

15. Serbia (69)

16. Malta (69)

17. Ireland (63)

18. Moldova (57)

19. Finland (54)

20. Bosnia Herzegovina (53)

21. Switzerland (51)

22. Spain (32)

23. Israel (14)

24. Austria (13)

25. Georgia (7)

 

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1. Azerbaijan (145)

2. Hungary (137)

3. Greece (126)

4. Norway (113)

5. Georgia (104)

6. Finland (98)

7. Malta (94)

8. Switzerland (76)

9. Armenia (76)

10. Serbia (65)

11. Russia (62)

12. Poland (42)

13. Lithuania (21)

14. Albania (15)

15. Croatia (13)

16. Turkey (13)

17. Iceland (8)

18. Portugal (8)

19. San Marino (2)

 

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1. Estonia (183)

2. Denmark (133)

3. Romania (130)

4. Sweden (129)

5. Slovenia (113)

6. Ireland (100)

7. Israel (92)

8. Bosnia Herzegovina (75)

9. Moldova (73)

10. Austria (63)

11. Latvia (49)

12. Ukraine (44)

13. Slovakia (35)

14. FYR Macedonia (18)

15. Belarus (13)

16. Bulgaria (8)

17. Netherlands (7)

18. Belgium (7)

19. Cyprus (4)

 

 

 

An impressive lead the Top 2 got there. :o

Just did one, with odds and diaspora set on:

 

Semi 1

---------

1. Greece (171)

2. Azerbaijan (160)

3. Hungary (123)

4. Russia (103)

5. Turkey (92)

6. Norway (86)

7. Georgia (70)

8. Finland (68)

9. Serbia (64)

10. San Marino (55)

11. Switzerland (53)

12. Lithuania (49)

13. Armenia (39)

14. Croatia (29)

15. Poland (22)

16. Albania (13)

17. Iceland (12)

18. Portugal (9)

19. Malta (0)

 

Poor Malta got the nil points.

 

Semi 2

---------

1. Moldova (158)

2. Estonia (141)

3. Bosnia Herzegovina (127)

4. Slovenia (117)

5. Denmark (111)

6. Romania (84)

7. Ukraine (71)

8. Slovakia (69)

9. Austria (61)

10. Belgium (60)

11. Ireland (55)

12. Sweden (51)

13. Latvia (42)

14. Belarus (35)

15. Cyprus (34)

16. Netherlands (30)

17. Bulgaria (13)

18. Israel (10)

19. FYR Macedonia (7)

 

Ireland just missed out.....and also Sweden failed too. That seems to be happening quite often with these simulators. There's probably something in their accounting for Sweden's failure last year.

 

Final

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1. France (203)

2. Bosnia Herzegovina (193)

3. Greece (179)

4. Russia (157)

5. Moldova (151)

6. United Kingdom (150)

7. Turkey (143)

8. Norway (142)

9. Hungary (136)

10. Azerbaijan (133)

11. Estonia (128)

12. Denmark (98)

13. Ukraine (91)

14. Italy (71)

15. Romania (71)

16. Finland (67)

17. Germany (63)

18. Belgium (62)

19. Serbia (54)

20. Georgia (51)

21. Slovenia (49)

22. Slovakia (38)

23. Austria (32)

24. San Marino (26)

25. Spain (6)

 

Poor Spain never got to double digits. :( So France won and it was right up to the wire too. BH was above France by two points but then Russia gave France the 12. Although there was a point just past the halfway point I started to feel like the winner would be France since it was starting to get high points and lingering around 3rd/4th the whole time. A lead of just 10 points, still quite close.

 

However Cyprus did not give their 12 to Greece so this simulation is completely null and void.

 

(Cyprus gave 8 points to Greece! :o)

Edited April 11, 201114 yr by Sabrewulf

Semi Final 1:

 

1. Portugal (156)

2. Croatia (149)

3. Hungary (146)

4. Malta (143)

5. Finland (131)

6. Greece (93)

7. Azerbaijan (82)

8. Serbia (75)

9. Iceland (47)

10. Lithuania (42)

11. Armenia (39)

12. Norway (29)

13. San Marino (28)

14. Poland (23)

15. Russia (13)

16. Georgia (11)

17. Switzerland (9)

18. Albania (2)

19. Turkey (0)

 

Semi Final 2:

 

1. Slovakia (141)

2. Israel (119)

3. Austria (119)

4. Moldova (118)

5. Sweden (112)

6. Ireland (93)

7. Denmark (91)

8. Estonia (86)

9. Netherlands (85)

10. Slovenia (82)

11. FYR Macedonia (61)

12. Belgium (53)

13. Cyprus (51)

14. Bosnia Herzegovina (51)

15. Romania (11)

16. Ukraine (2)

17. Belarus (1)

18. Bulgaria (0)

19. Latvia (0)

 

Final:

 

1. Croatia (298)

2. Malta (249)

3. Hungary (165)

4. Slovakia (163)

5. Portugal (150)

6. Israel (149)

7. Italy (148)

8. Austria (143)

9. Finland (140)

10. Azerbaijan (115)

11. Greece (105)

12. Sweden (93)

13. Netherlands (85)

14. France (75)

15. Germany (60)

16. Estonia (58)

17. Denmark (56)

18. Slovenia (46)

19. Spain (43)

20. Serbia (40)

21. Lithuania (39)

22. Moldova (33)

23. Iceland (28)

24. Ireland (13)

25. United Kingdom (0)

 

0 points for UK, Jedward above. fail.

However Cyprus did not give their 12 to Greece so this simulation is completely null and void.

 

(Cyprus gave 8 points to Greece! :o)

 

Well the 50-50 negates the diaspora voting. A bit. Anyway, I just did one based on my feelings about how well the songs will do:

 

1. Bosnia Herzegovina (328)

2. Estonia (206)

3. United Kingdom (186)

4. Iceland (161)

5. Turkey (160)

6. Russia (152)

7. Spain (141)

8. Lithuania (126)

9. Greece (111)

10. Azerbaijan (105)

11. Italy (96)

12. Armenia (93)

13. Norway (89)

14. Denmark (76)

15. Croatia (74)

16. Bulgaria (60)

17. Moldova (51)

18. Slovenia (50)

19. Romania (47)

20. Germany (44)

21. Ukraine (42)

22. Poland (38)

23. Netherlands (24)

24. Sweden (23)

 

Yes I may have overrestimated Lithuania, but Sweden is TOTALLY realistic.

 

SF1

 

1. Turkey (118)

2. Lithuania (117)

3. Croatia (107)

4. Iceland (106)

5. Azerbaijan (103)

6. Russia (102)

7. Norway (82)

8. Greece (79)

9. Poland (72)

10. Armenia (57)

11. Finland (55)

12. Albania (55)

13. Portugal (50)

14. Malta (45)

15. Hungary (35)

16. Serbia (18)

17. San Marino (11)

18. Switzerland (6)

19. Georgia (0)

 

SF2

 

1. Bosnia Herzegovina (206)

2. Estonia (151)

3. Bulgaria (132)

4. Moldova (100)

5. Slovenia (88)

6. Netherlands (82)

7. Denmark (77)

8. Ukraine (63)

9. Sweden (61)

10. Romania (61)

11. Latvia (55)

12. Israel (49)

13. Belarus (48)

14. Slovakia (40)

15. Austria (31)

16. FYR Macedonia (15)

17. Ireland (12)

18. Cyprus (5)

19. Belgium (0)

SF1

 

1. Poland (145)

2. Azerbaijan (140)

3. Hungary (135)

4. Russia (111)

5. Iceland (106)

6. Norway (94)

7. Armenia (76)

8. Switzerland (65)

9. Portugal (62)

10. Finland (53)

11. Serbia (45)

12. Greece (39)

13. Turkey (34)

14. Georgia (32)

15. Lithuania (26)

16. Albania (25)

17. Croatia (21)

18. San Marino (5)

19. Malta (4)

 

SF2

 

1. Estonia (178)

2. Bosnia Herzegovina (137)

3. Latvia (121)

4. Slovenia (112)

5. Netherlands (107)

6. Romania (98)

7. Denmark (90)

8. Moldova (87)

9. Austria (70)

10. Israel (59)

11. Ireland (58)

12. Ukraine (48)

13. Bulgaria (29)

14. Slovakia (26)

15. Sweden (23)

16. Belarus (17)

17. FYR Macedonia (10)

18. Cyprus (5)

19. Belgium (1)

 

Final

 

1. France (252)

2. Bosnia Herzegovina (203)

3. Germany (184)

4. Estonia (172)

5. Russia (170)

6. Poland (164)

7. Azerbaijan (155)

8. Iceland (143)

9. United Kingdom (142)

10. Netherlands (117)

11. Slovenia (115)

12. Hungary (103)

13. Latvia (88)

14. Norway (76)

15. Armenia (67)

16. Israel (66)

17. Denmark (52)

18. Finland (47)

19. Austria (44)

20. Romania (36)

21. Moldova (28)

22. Switzerland (21)

23. Portugal (20)

24. Italy (17)

Well the 50-50 negates the diaspora voting. A bit. Anyway, I just did one based on my feelings about how well the songs will do:

 

1. Bosnia Herzegovina (328)

2. Estonia (206)

3. United Kingdom (186)

4. Iceland (161)

5. Turkey (160)

6. Russia (152)

7. Spain (141)

8. Lithuania (126)

9. Greece (111)

10. Azerbaijan (105)

11. Italy (96)

12. Armenia (93)

13. Norway (89)

14. Denmark (76)

15. Croatia (74)

16. Bulgaria (60)

17. Moldova (51)

18. Slovenia (50)

19. Romania (47)

20. Germany (44)

21. Ukraine (42)

22. Poland (38)

23. Netherlands (24)

24. Sweden (23)

 

Yes I may have overrestimated Lithuania, but Sweden is TOTALLY realistic.

You wish! When was the last time such an event performance finished last - or even bottom five? :lol:

There's a fine line between "event performance" and "cold mess" - see Albania 2008.

What on earth was eventful about Albania 2008? Nothing happened!

 

(In any case, whatever was supposed to be eventful about that - it didn't finish bottom five, much less last :P)

What are the odds like for Malta? Is anyone else finding that putting the settings to the latest odds invariably has them always qualifying?

Wasn't that the one by Olta Boka or something with all those candles and it was like religious and all that?