I could reconcile myself with that top ten. But only if it was in a completely different order.

Another one with odds and diaspora:

 

1. Norway (188)

2. France (176)

3. Moldova (174)

4. Greece (165)

5. Bosnia Herzegovina (153)

6. United Kingdom (149)

7. Serbia (142)

8. Russia (138)

9. Sweden (132)

10. Azerbaijan (128)

11. Italy (94)

12. Turkey (85)

13. Armenia (83)

14. Hungary (82)

15. Denmark (82)

16. Austria (75)

17. Poland (69)

18. Finland (68)

19. Spain (59)

20. Romania (56)

21. Ukraine (54)

22. Slovenia (50)

23. Latvia (41)

24. Germany (28)

25. Israel (23)

 

EPIC top 10, Moldova :mellow: excepted. Decent showing for Italy too :wub:

Wahey! I did it again too...

 

1. Turkey (248)

2. Azerbaijan (206)

3. France (204)

4. Estonia (199)

5. Sweden (192)

6. Bosnia Herzegovina (163)

7. United Kingdom (158)

8. Germany (150)

9. Norway (141)

10. Finland (90)

11. Russia (90)

12. Ireland (88)

13. Italy (80)

14. Switzerland (76)

15. Poland (69)

16. Austria (57)

17. Slovenia (48)

18. Israel (46)

19. Romania (43)

20. Serbia (38)

21. Denmark (34)

22. Greece (24)

23. Moldova (24)

24. Hungary (13)

25. Spain (13)

 

Not so great. That would probably the most diaspora-tastic top 2 ever. France doesn't deserve to (and won't) do that well either.

 

How so? It's easily the grandest song in the competition imo, the music is incredible (even if the vocals are marmite depending on whether you can stomach that sort of thing :lol:). I don't know if France WILL finish as high as the bookies are predicting, but they would definitely deserve it as they did for sending such an 'epic' and different sounding song to the contest. I'd like to see them rewarded with a top five finish at least, they seem to have put some actual thought into their entry for once, which they weren't doing for the majority of the 00s.

There is some originality in it for sure, more in actually choosing to send it than the song itself, which is Josh Groban singing Ravel's Bolero in Corsican, but I really don't know. It will score well with the juries of course, but I just can't see where it will get televotes from. Don't get me wrong I'd LOVE them to win, but it leaves me cold and I don't think i'll be the only one. Low top 10 beckons imho.

There is some originality in it for sure, more in actually choosing to send it than the song itself, which is Josh Groban singing Ravel's Bolero in Corsican, but I really don't know. It will score well with the juries of course, but I just can't see where it will get televotes from. Don't get me wrong I'd LOVE them to win, but it leaves me cold and I don't think i'll be the only one. Low top 10 beckons imho.

 

I adore it, but it's very difficult to see it going down that well with the general public, so I would share your view of low top 10 for it, possibly 7/8.

With current voting odds and diaspora I got:

 

01 Norway 201

02 United Kingdom 195

03 Armenia 174

04 Russia 163

05 Estonia 162

06 France 139

07 Finland 128

08 Sweden 128

09 Netherlands 126

10 Germany 121

11 Azerbaijan 121

12 Turkey 102

13 Ireland 91

14 Bosnia Herzegovina 87

15 Ukraine 77

16 Romania 71

17 Poland 68

18 Slovenia 50

19 Israel 48

20 Hungary 46

21 Greece 36

22 Austria 35

23 Spain 26

24 Switzerland 25

 

The UK was leading the entire way, until the last set of votes in fact.

 

Semi 1 results:

1. Azerbaijan (147)

2. Norway (123)

3. Russia (120)

4. Armenia (104)

5. Turkey (95)

6. Finland (92)

7. Poland (90)

8. Hungary (89)

9. Greece (74)

10. Switzerland (68)

11. Iceland (47)

12. Georgia (46)

13. Lithuania (31)

14. Portugal (29)

15. Albania (22)

16. Serbia (22)

17. San Marino (7)

18. Croatia (7)

19. Malta (5)

 

Semi 2 results:

1. Estonia (147)

2. Bosnia Herzegovina (138)

3. Austria (114)

4. Sweden (112)

5. Slovenia (112)

6. Israel (109)

7. Ireland (105)

8. Romania (82)

9. Ukraine (71)

10. Netherlands (63)

11. Denmark (55)

12. Slovakia (46)

13. Moldova (41)

14. Latvia (27)

15. Bulgaria (24)

16. Cyprus (12)

17. FYR Macedonia (7)

18. Belgium (7)

19. Belarus (4)

Edited April 18, 201114 yr by Johnkm

Everybody keeps saying that they don't think Sognu will go down well with the public even though they like it (a few people excepted of course, who genuinely don't like it!). I don't see why it can't connect to the televoters if it comes across as standout and above the pack, sometimes people vote for songs from genres they're not perhaps a fan of, just because it's THAT good a performance/moment - Lordi for example, who on earth would have thought that a song from that genre that could ever win? Ok, they had their gimmick in the costumes, but it was a solid, memorable song, far better than any other rock/metal-lite song entered into the contest before and since. I really think that Sognu will do better in the public vote than a lot of people seem to think it will personally. It's not my type of music at all, but I love it - so do most of the OGAE voters, so do the bookies, so do people on music forums across the internet. On paper it should flop, but in reality, I'm seeing a smash.

I think the main issue with Sognu is that it isn't especially instant. It takes a few listens to grow on you and that doesn't lend itself well to this kind of competition, especially not for one of the Big 4 being heard for the first time for most on the night. I think with a stellar performance it might do better than 7/8 but really what can he do. He's a fantastic vocalist, but again the song doesn't lend itself to a particularly energetic performance, at least not that I can see.

OMG the return of Inget konstigt alls? AMAZING.

 

My facebook URL is this. :kink:

 

 

NEJ NEJ NEJ

 

That never gets old.

The best bit is her doing the La Voix dance across the street :D

It's still genius :wub: The zebra crossing dance with shopping bags is unforgettable! Get it back in your 'profile description' too Pavster!

Here's my results for my latest simulation with odds and diaspora voting. So pleased for Estonia :wub: who after being around 5th most of the way shot up and beat France! UK didn't do to well though and how Malta lead the voting past the halfway stage is beyond me!

 

 

1. Estonia (214)

2. France (211)

3. Malta (191)

4. Hungary (189)

5. Germany (152)

6. Azerbaijan (147)

7. Armenia (145)

8. Denmark (127)

9. San Marino (122)

10. Lithuania (118)

11. Moldova (116)

12. Russia (97)

13. Romania (85)

14. Italy (85)

15. Croatia (80)

16. Israel (76)

17. Spain (71)

18. Sweden (59)

19. Ukraine (48)

20. Bosnia Herzegovina (45)

21. United Kingdom (37)

22. Switzerland (35)

23. Austria (17)

24. Poland (14)

25. Bulgaria (13)

 

Semi 1

1. Hungary (116)

2. Azerbaijan (115)

3. Malta (109)

4. Lithuania (104)

5. Russia (104)

6. Armenia (93)

7. Croatia (64)

8. San Marino (63)

9. Poland (63)

10. Switzerland (61)

11. Greece (59)

12. Turkey (55)

13. Finland (53)

14. Serbia (46)

15. Norway (37)

16. Albania (24)

17. Iceland (23)

18. Portugal (21)

19. Georgia (8)

 

Semi 2

1. Estonia (162)

2. Romania (161)

3. Sweden (118)

4. Moldova (111)

5. Ukraine (96)

6. Denmark (78)

7. Israel (75)

8. Austria (70)

9. Bulgaria (66)

10. Bosnia Herzegovina (64)

11. Latvia (60)

12. Ireland (57)

13. Slovenia (52)

14. Slovakia (33)

15. Belgium (20)

16. FYR Macedonia (18)

17. Belarus (17)

18. Cyprus (11)

19. Netherlands (7)

Edited April 20, 201114 yr by RC741

Surprised at the UK that low, what a very odd set of events that would be.

Edited April 21, 201114 yr by Johnkm

With current odds and diaspora:

 

1. Estonia (219)

2. Norway (171)

3. France (159)

4. Croatia (154)

5. United Kingdom (147)

6. Bosnia Herzegovina (146)

7. Germany (136)

8. Russia (128)

9. Poland (126)

10. Slovenia (115)

11. Ireland (110)

12. Azerbaijan (108)

13. Sweden (106)

14. Finland (105)

15. Armenia (91)

16. Greece (85)

17. Italy (71)

18. Hungary (61)

19. Netherlands (60)

20. Austria (37)

21. Spain (36)

22. Belgium (36)

23. Slovakia (30)

24. Moldova (30)

25. Switzerland (27)

 

It was actually a very interesting voting, France led for about 7 the first 5 votes, then the UK for another 5 votes, then Norway for a couple but then Estonia pretty much had it in the bag with a series of 4 12's on the trot.

 

Semi 1:

1. Croatia (130)

2. Norway (126)

3. Hungary (108)

4. Poland (97)

5. Russia (97)

6. Azerbaijan (96)

7. Greece (94)

8. Armenia (79)

9. Switzerland (77)

10. Finland (70)

11. Serbia (56)

12. Georgia (47)

13. Lithuania (46)

14. Iceland (33)

15. Turkey (21)

16. Albania (17)

17. Portugal (16)

18. San Marino (5)

19. Malta (3)

 

Semi 2:

1. Estonia (142)

2. Slovenia (121)

3. Ireland (119)

4. Bosnia Herzegovina (115)

5. Belgium (103)

6. Sweden (96)

7. Moldova (87)

8. Netherlands (73)

9. Austria (72)

10. Slovakia (62)

11. Cyprus (61)

12. Israel (56)

13. Latvia (49)

14. Ukraine (47)

15. Romania (21)

16. Bulgaria (18)

17. Belarus (14)

18. Denmark (13)

19. FYR Macedonia (7)

 

I think a few of those semi predictions seem a little odd though.

I'm going to make an attempt at adding up all the final scores to give us an overall simulation as I'm quite bored! Should be interesting :D

I'm going to make an attempt at adding up all the final scores to give us an overall simulation as I'm quite bored! Should be interesting :D

You should probably stick to ones that are explicitly odds-based otherwise you'll end up with some bizarre results...

You should probably stick to ones that are explicitly odds-based otherwise you'll end up with some bizarre results...

 

Yes, I will do :)

I'm about halfway through adding them up, I'll finish it tomorrow :)

 

Meanwhile, here's my new simulation results ;) Go Estonia and UK!!! :

 

 

1. France (314)

2. Estonia (211)

3. United Kingdom (198)

4. Bosnia Herzegovina (175)

5. Germany (159)

6. Russia (159)

7. Azerbaijan (154)

8. Armenia (143)

9. Sweden (121)

10. Turkey (103)

11. Hungary (90)

12. Latvia (87)

13. Serbia (72)

14. Denmark (65)

15. Spain (64)

16. Romania (61)

17. Austria (59)

18. Belarus (54)

19. Finland (49)

20. Italy (43)

21. Slovenia (37)

22. Norway (34)

23. Poland (24)

24. Bulgaria (16)

25. Georgia (2)

 

These results, plus all the ones I've done before are with odds and diaspora only.

 

1. Estonia (268)

2. France (233)

3. Azerbaijan (182)

4. Sweden (170)

5. Russia (149)

6. Bosnia Herzegovina (149)

7. Norway (140)

8. Denmark (138)

9. Slovenia (94)

10. Malta (94)

11. United Kingdom (89)

12. Romania (88)

13. Germany (88)

14. Armenia (82)

15. Turkey (78)

16. Finland (77)

17. Austria (72)

18. Switzerland (65)

19. Italy (54)

20. Moldova (53)

21. Israel (36)

22. Ukraine (28)

23. Hungary (25)

24. Poland (22)

25. Spain (20)

 

Fairly predictable tbh.