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is it part of the Japan CD? I think that was released this week...I could be wrong though

 

No, it's a new single. It seems to be a new version of SING :P It's now up to #51 :o

 

If you mean 'Songs For Japan' that was released a couple of weeks back

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ONE non-American song left in the top ten then, and it's from Adele (naturally) but as low as #8. I wonder if we've ever had an all American official top ten before, if not it surely can't be far off. Where have all the homegrown acts gone? Or anybody from any other country for that matter :drama:

 

Well, there is David Guetta...

Don't forget that Elly Jackson is on All of the Lights which can hopefully go top 10 soon.

 

I never though I'd say this, but I hope Black and Yellow falls faster! :lol:

 

I'm sure Wiz's next single (Roll Up) will be huge anyway. Fingers crossed he'll steal Bruno Mars's fanbase. :kink:

 

Also, I think on air-on sale hinders British artists. I think I explained it before, but looking at last year, the only British songs that could've realistically got to #1 through on air-on sale would've been Promise This, Love You More and The Club is Alive (due to large fanbases), Everybody Hurts, When We Collide, the X Factor charity song, Shout (they were pretty much on air-on sale anyway) and Pass Out, because that song was just massive.

 

Here's how Chipmunk feels about it: http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/music/news/a31...-is-fed-up.html

 

Basically, he's bitter that In the Air isn't doing very well. :lol: He does make some good point though.

Also, I think on air-on sale hinders British artists.

It didn't do Jessie J any harm. :P

It didn't do Jessie J any harm. :P

 

No. Neither Adele, as Someone Like You was essentially on air-on sale.

 

Jessie J is definitely a one-off though. Anybody who has followed the charts knows that Price Tag debuting at #1 like that is certainly not normal chart behaviour.

 

Although Price Tag wasn't technically on air-on sale anyway. Radio 1Xtra and Capital were playing it since 2010 apparently.

How can anybody say that the lack of British acts is to do with on air/on sale is beyond me. It's because there's simply not THAT many British acts releasing at the moment for some baffling reason that I can't explain. Perhaps they're all on holiday. The only high profile "flop" by a British act because of this is probably Chipmunk (at the moment), yes, but he still could climb. The likes of Jodie Connor and Dionne Bromfield would be probably top 20 at best even if they were front-loaded.

 

There's also Arctic Monkeys, of course, but frankly they're from a dead genre at the moment. Holding back the release wouldn't do them much better IMO than they're doing now with the on air/on sale.

 

The better question would be "where are all the high profile British acts? :drama:"... the ones who could actually make a push to the upper reaches of the charts. There doesn't seem to be any of them about at the moment. Of course the Americans have so many acts they can pump out big hits all year round.

 

That said, it's amazing that record companies haven't realised that releasing the video and sending the song to radio at the same time is by far a better strategy. Surely it's common sense? Instead of getting one form of promotion, you're getting two at the same time for a much longer period?

ONE non-American song left in the top ten then, and it's from Adele (naturally) but as low as #8. I wonder if we've ever had an all American official top ten before, if not it surely can't be far off. Where have all the homegrown acts gone? Or anybody from any other country for that matter :drama:

 

I'm sure there were plenty back in 2003/2004 time when US acts dominated the UK charts. Unless you just mean on iTunes then I'm not 100% sure.

How can anybody say that the lack of British acts is to do with on air/on sale is beyond me. It's because there's simply not THAT many British acts releasing at the moment for some baffling reason that I can't explain. Perhaps they're all on holiday. The only high profile "flop" by a British act because of this is probably Chipmunk (at the moment), yes, but he still could climb. The likes of Jodie Connor and Dionne Bromfield would be probably top 20 at best even if they were front-loaded.

 

There's also Arctic Monkeys, of course, but frankly they're from a dead genre at the moment. Holding back the release wouldn't do them much better IMO than they're doing now with the on air/on sale.

 

The better question would be "where are all the high profile British acts? :drama:"... the ones who could actually make a push to the upper reaches of the charts. There doesn't seem to be any of them about at the moment. Of course the Americans have so many acts they can pump out big hits all year round.

 

That said, it's amazing that record companies haven't realised that releasing the video and sending the song to radio at the same time is by far a better strategy. Surely it's common sense? Instead of getting one form of promotion, you're getting two at the same time for a much longer period?

 

I completely agree, Adele and Jessie J released in January and have just been hanging around for an age. All of the other British acts in the chart are b/c-list type stars (probably not even that). There are notable UK acts with anything out at the moment, which is very odd. Even last year we had all of those British rap/R&B acts dominating, but now we only have Wretch 32, who just doesn't feel like he'll take off as much as some as the others did.

Do we think Traktor have gone top 10 if it was on air-on sale?

 

I think another part of the problem is I think that the mainstream British artists simply aren't releasing as good songs. Let's look at dance-pop songs, for example. Which British pop artists are putting out songs as good as Firework, Only Girl, Bad Romance, etc?

I agree with superbossanova. The only reason there's not much British music in the chart at the moment is because all the big UK artists are asleep for some reason.

 

16. S&M (Remix) [feat. Britney Spears] - Rihanna

46. #SINGItForJapan - My Chemical Romance

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I agree with superbossanova. The only reason there's not much British music in the chart at the moment is because all the big UK artists are asleep for some reason.

 

Yeah, I agree with him too tbh. Cheryl Cole, JLS, etc. need to wake up and release new songs!! :D

 

Although, that is true. Where's Dizzee Rascal, for example? I bet he's still in mourning for not being able to do a verse on Game Over. :lol:

Do we think Traktor have gone top 10 if it was on air-on sale?

 

I think another part of the problem is I think that the mainstream British artists simply aren't releasing as good songs. Let's look at dance-pop songs, for example. Which British pop artists are putting out songs as good as Firework, Only Girl, Bad Romance, etc?

Yeah, it's true that American music is much more in keeping with chart trends right now (I don't want to say higher quality, personally, as I actually prefer British music as a whole :lol:). I think British music tends to be less mainstream, too.

 

Yeah, I agree with him too tbh. Cheryl Cole, JLS, etc. need to wake up and release new songs!! :D

 

Although, that is true. Where's Dizzee Rascal, for example? I bet he's still in mourning for not being able to do a verse on Game Over. :lol:

That's another point, actually - so many of our major acts these days build their schedule around The X Factor or to release albums at the end of the year. And it doesn't help that acts like Cheryl Cole like to end their campaigns after TWO (:manson:) singles just because one of them flopped. Great way to tell us your album sucks, dear. High profile American acts tend to release at least four singles from an album, regardless of previous singles' performances.

 

I'd say the Sound of poll is perhaps another reason, too - it seemed to be even less mainstream this year, at least in terms of current trends, compared to the days when several new acts would be launched into the charts each year just from that alone.

Yeah, it's true that American music is much more in keeping with chart trends right now (I don't want to say higher quality, personally, as I actually prefer British music as a whole :lol:). I think British music tends to be less mainstream, too.

That's another point, actually - so many of our major acts these days build their schedule around The X Factor or to release albums at the end of the year. And it doesn't help that acts like Cheryl Cole like to end their campaigns after TWO (:manson:) singles just because one of them flopped. Great way to tell us your album sucks, dear. High profile American acts tend to release at least four singles from an album, regardless of previous singles' performances.

 

I'd say the Sound of poll is perhaps another reason, too - it seemed to be even less mainstream this year, at least in terms of current trends, compared to the days when several new acts would be launched into the charts each year just from that alone.

 

:lol: Yeah, that's true.

 

Hopefully the success that Adele and Jessie J have had so far this year might encourage more artists to try a similar schedule to them for next year. We'll have to wait and see. It might not make much of a difference. :(

15. S&M (Remix) [feat. Britney Spears] - Rihanna

44. #SINGItForJapan - My Chemical Romance

 

So the Britney remix of S&M should pass the original (#13) very soon, I wonder if the original will then start falling quickly as it has done in the USA for some reason? It'll probably go top 10 as well, but I hope it doesn't because this is surely Kanye's last chance at going top 10 :( Also it'll push Adele down to #9

 

If #SINGItForJapan is combined to SING (which it should be IMO as it's just a reworked version but we shall see what the OCC thinks...) SING could go top 40 either this week or next week.

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15. S&M (Remix) [feat. Britney Spears] - Rihanna

44. #SINGItForJapan - My Chemical Romance

 

So the Britney remix of S&M should pass the original (#13) very soon, I wonder if the original will then start falling quickly as it has done in the USA for some reason? It'll probably go top 10 as well, but I hope it doesn't because this is surely Kanye's last chance at going top 10 :( Also it'll push Adele down to #9

 

If #SINGItForJapan is combined to SING (which it should be IMO as it's just a reworked version but we shall see what the OCC thinks...) SING could go top 40 either this week or next week.

 

About the S&M thing, I think the Britney version is 79p, while the Rihanna version is 99p, which might be why the original is falling, as there's a similar song available for cheaper.

 

Ideally all three of Kanye, Arctic Monkeys and Rihanna/Britney can go top 10. Kanye needs to get there first though. He'll never be able to catch up with any of the others, methinks.

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Yeah, it's true that American music is much more in keeping with chart trends right now (I don't want to say higher quality, personally, as I actually prefer British music as a whole :lol:). I think British music tends to be less mainstream, too.

 

That's another point, actually - so many of our major acts these days build their schedule around The X Factor or to release albums at the end of the year. And it doesn't help that acts like Cheryl Cole like to end their campaigns after TWO (:manson:) singles just because one of them flopped. Great way to tell us your album sucks, dear. High profile American acts tend to release at least four singles from an album, regardless of previous singles' performances.

 

I'd say the Sound of poll is perhaps another reason, too - it seemed to be even less mainstream this year, at least in terms of current trends, compared to the days when several new acts would be launched into the charts each year just from that alone.

 

I'll tell you why, and if anybody has a better point that me, then please do share it. The X Factor. A lot of acts now purposely are waiting for the Christmas market, so they can maximise sales and get a spot on the X Factor. Cheryl Cole, JLS, Take That, Leona Lewis etc. - all are big British acts, but they purposely don't release now so they can get a performance on X Factor and get a x100000 boost opposed to releasing in the summer. A lot of what is popular at the moment is club music. There aren't many British artists that dive specifically in to that market.

 

The decline in rock/indie music in the charts also had a big effect (Kasabian and Coldplay possibly). The likes of Arctic Monkeys, Muse, Bloc Party, Lostprophets, The Kooks etc. - it was extremely likely that their lead singles would always go top 10, but now not so much anymore.

its a relatively quiet time of year as well, as said, Christmas time and X Factor season is a huge time for sales, thats why Take That planned their 'big comeback' at Christmas, it didn't do them badly as sales were sky high then

 

I think Christmas and Summer are the busiest time for releases, most of the 'big' releases of previous years are releases around that time so we'll likely some high profile releases then

 

 

5. Beautiful People (feat. Benny Benassi) [Main Version] - Chris Brown :up:

12. S&M (Remix) [feat. Britney Spears] - Rihanna :up:

13. Bright Lights Bigger City - Cee Lo Green

14. S&M - Rihanna :down:

15. Don't Sit Down 'Cause I've Moved Your Chair - Arctic Monkeys :down:

17. Skinny Love - Birdy :up:

24. Blow - Ke$ha :up:

28. Yeah Right (Radio Edit) - Dionne Bromfield :up:

29. Tik Tok (Glee Cast Version) - Glee Cast :down:

42. #SINGItForJapan - My Chemical Romance :up:

 

About the S&M thing, I think the Britney version is 79p, while the Rihanna version is 99p, which might be why the original is falling, as there's a similar terrible version of the song available for cheaper.

Fixed it for you. :kink:

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