June 27, 201114 yr Glad it's just not me that does not like the songs..Love Love is a good song but the rest are phiiiiiiiiiTT!! Do you think they came to a mutual agreement just to shovel out anything while the going was good <_< They keep sayng Gary Barlow is in charge so is he responsible for this fiasco (or did Robbie bribe him ) :lol: B) I think combined they had enough songs for ONE decent album. Take two tracks off the original Progress (Affirmation for one - I've not made my mind up about the other). Replace said removed track(s) with Love, Love and they'd have had one album that was at least half-way worthy of all the praise it was getting. Then all the tracks on Progressed (with the exception of Love, Love) together with the two ditched tracks off the original album should have been thrown in the nearest waste-disposal unit. Barlow apparently laid down the tracks for all songs so yes - he is largely to credit/blame for the whole thing (Progress and Progressed). Having said that - the lyrics are pretty dire across both albums so I think they all share the blame on that front. Either way - Progress was worth perhaps 7/10 in any final rating and Progress was worth (and I'm being generous here) 2/10. Kath Edit - its a bloody good job that their live shows are always 110% and more because since their return - their albums have got progressively worse. Edited June 27, 201114 yr by Kathyp
June 27, 201114 yr I think combined they had enough songs for ONE decent album. Take two tracks off the original Progress (Affirmation for one - I've not made my mind up about the other). Replace said removed track(s) with Love, Love and they'd have had one album that was at least half-way worthy of all the praise it was getting. Then all the tracks on Progressed (with the exception of Love, Love) together with the two ditched tracks off the original album should have been thrown in the nearest waste-disposal unit. Barlow apparently laid down the tracks for all songs so yes - he is largely to credit/blame for the whole thing (Progress and Progressed). Having said that - the lyrics are pretty dire across both albums so I think they all share the blame on that front. Either way - Progress was worth perhaps 7/10 in any final rating and Progress was worth (and I'm being generous here) 2/10. Kath Edit - its a bloody good job that their live shows are always 110% and more because since their return - their albums have got progressively worse. Yes !!! I cannot criticise the gigs from what Iv'e seen of them..they have put on a mighty good show ;) & people who were there seem to be fairly positive about it all ...
June 27, 201114 yr I concur. Drivel indeed. I don't think Robbie was even there. I don't hear him on any of those tracks. :unsure:
June 28, 201114 yr Author When we were young sounds like Robbie singing to me :unsure: that's why I like the song. :cry: is it not Robbie?
June 28, 201114 yr When we were young sounds like Robbie singing to me :unsure: that's why I like the song. :cry: is it not Robbie? I'm pretty certain he sings that one (but even this WWWY is crap). The problem with Take That though - is no-one can see beyond the lead singer and hence fans of each automatically name that (whichever) song as the best regardless of whether the song is sh/te or not. I count my assessment of Love, Love as the best only decent song on Progressed as fairly unbiased. I have put my impression of Gary (as a Tory Tw*t) aside to assess that he has probably had 'dibs' on bagging the best song on a bag of sh/te songs. I'd probably put this down as a side-effect of him being a self-centred (whilst at the same time convincing all around him that he's today's answer to Mother Theresa) Tory Tw*t. Kath Edited June 28, 201114 yr by Kathyp
June 28, 201114 yr I'm pretty certain he sings that one (but even this WWWY is crap). The problem with Take That though - is no-one can see beyond the lead singer and hence fans of each automatically name that (whichever) song as the best regardless of whether the song is sh/te or not. I count my assessment of Love, Love as the best only decent song on Progressed as fairly unbiased. I have put my impression of Gary (as a Tory Tw*t) aside to assess that he has probably had 'dibs' on bagging the best song on a bag of sh/te songs. I'd probably put this down as a side-effect of him being a self-centred (whilst at the same time convincing all around him that he's today's answer to Mother Theresa) Tory Tw*t. Kath Kath...You are very harsh on Gary :o ...Cmo'n now..if Robbie can forgive him..so can you :angel:
June 28, 201114 yr Kath...You are very harsh on Gary :o ...Cmo'n now..if Robbie can forgive him..so can you :angel: No - me and sister are firmly anti-Gary now (she couldn't stand him in the first place though - she thought he was an arrogant git ... and she was right). I still like Take That though. I think I was going off Gary long before he started brown-nosing David Cameron though (all the high-profile, self-promoting charity work started to turn me) and I'm glad that - on The Circus album - my favourite songs are actually Mark-led ones - apart from the atrocious 'Julie'. Kath BTW - I've no doubt that Mark, Howard, Jason and even Robbie are staunchly Conservative (they do best preserve the interests of the rich) but at least they have the good sense to keep it to themselves and not go on the campaign trail. Edited June 28, 201114 yr by Kathyp
June 28, 201114 yr No - me and sister are firmly anti-Gary now (she couldn't stand him in the first place though - she thought he was an arrogant git ... and she was right). I still like Take That though. I think I was going off Gary long before he started brown-nosing David Cameron though (all the high-profile, self-promoting charity work started to turn me) and I'm glad that - on The Circus album - my favourite songs are actually Mark-led ones - apart from the atrocious 'Julie'. Kath BTW - I've no doubt that Mark, Howard, Jason and even Robbie are staunchly Conservative (they do best preserve the interests of the rich) but at least they have the good sense to keep it to themselves and not go on the campaign trail. You obviously have never heard Bono doing his preaching then , you can see his bandmates squirm right before your eyes :lol: Edited June 29, 201114 yr by Sacramento
June 28, 201114 yr I think combined they had enough songs for ONE decent album. Take two tracks off the original Progress (Affirmation for one - I've not made my mind up about the other). Replace said removed track(s) with Love, Love and they'd have had one album that was at least half-way worthy of all the praise it was getting. Then all the tracks on Progressed (with the exception of Love, Love) together with the two ditched tracks off the original album should have been thrown in the nearest waste-disposal unit. Barlow apparently laid down the tracks for all songs so yes - he is largely to credit/blame for the whole thing (Progress and Progressed). Having said that - the lyrics are pretty dire across both albums so I think they all share the blame on that front. Either way - Progress was worth perhaps 7/10 in any final rating and Progress was worth (and I'm being generous here) 2/10. Kath Edit - its a bloody good job that their live shows are always 110% and more because since their return - their albums have got progressively worse. I agree partly that they could have taken a couple out and made the album a few songs longer my ideal album: the flood sos wait love love kidz dont say goodbye pretty things happy now underground machine what do you want from me aliens when we were young eight letters
June 29, 201114 yr My late dad used to say that any rich person who isn't a Tory is seriously bonkers. :lol: (Or alternatively they are so rich that money ceases to matter a jot to them). I have always thought that Gaz is very money orientated. He is a music businessman at heart I think. Robbie, I don't think so. He probably falls into the second category.
June 30, 201114 yr My late dad used to say that any rich person who isn't a Tory is seriously bonkers. :lol: (Or alternatively they are so rich that money ceases to matter a jot to them). I don't think there was any doubt that Gary Barlow was anything but a Tory - but I thought he'd have the good sense to not broadcast it quite so loudly (and to endorse a party whose policies are only for the rich). Its the fact that all of Take That (some with valid cases) played on the 'Working Class Hero' - imagined largely perhaps by the Press - but Take That never denied it. I mean - have you ever been to Frodsham, Cheshire? Its a very wealthy area of the North West (OK - it isn't Alderley Edge or Holmes Chapel - but its certainly not working class.) Mind you - John Lennon was the same - Working Class Hero my arse! Then again - I always preferred McCartney's contribution to the song-writing more than Lennon's (and personally I can't stand McCartney either). Kath And on Gary 'n' Dave's famous Walkabout - whatever happened to Gary's National Singing Competition? I mean - who needs scientists, doctors, nurses, teachers, etc, etc - when you can have wannabe X-Factor contestants? Edited June 30, 201114 yr by Kathyp
June 30, 201114 yr And on Gary 'n' Dave's famous Walkabout - whatever happened to Gary's National Singing Competition? I mean - who needs scientists, doctors, nurses, teachers, etc, etc - when you can have wannabe X-Factor contestants? :lol: :lol: :lol: I have to agree here. People seem to take the showbiz too serious... The higest note you can hit is more important than the highest grade of your degree nowadays! I won't blame Gary for that, it was the National Singing Competition well before his arrival. But now I came to to think of it, he is not the TV star-person but he could be the elitist-opportunist, cynical, strict judge. Perhaps he fits after all, you need one of those at talent shows!!! As for Progressed I really hope there won't be a second single. (I am 90% sure there won't be) However Progress Live will definitely be something worth buying . (when it shows up) Let's move on to Robbie's new album now :yahoo:
June 30, 201114 yr I wouldnt mind when we were young been released as a single but i dont thinkl they will do any more singles from this era, id say finishing the tour, gary doing x factor etc will be the focus, and then we will get the dvd released in or about november and hopefully a live album aswell.
June 30, 201114 yr Looking forward to the dvd. But looking forward much more to Robbie's new solo album :w00t:
June 30, 201114 yr Looking forward to the dvd. But looking forward much more to Robbie's new solo album :w00t: The sales for the Progress Tour DVD are going to be immense. The Circus DVD has been in the top 40 music DVD chart for 83 weeks (60+ weeks of that inside the top 20 and 11 of those weeks at number 1). Even this week its just outside the top 10 at number 11 - and total sales are nearly a million (if not there already) but I have a feeling Progress will dwarf it. Kath
June 30, 201114 yr yeah i have a feeling they will perform a track on the x factor to promote the live album and dvd, perhaps this will be when we were young. they did the same thing by releasing hold up a light to radio stations and as a promo so i wouldnt be suprised
July 1, 201114 yr Caught the end of the Love Love video last night..looks rather cool actually with lots of graphics...i like it
July 7, 201114 yr Author Yup :unsure: http://www.robbiewilliams.com/news-blogs/t...n-we-were-young 7 Jul 2011 Take That and Constantin Film/Impact Pictures jointly announced today that the band's next, and final, single to be released from the Progress studio sessions will be When We Were Young, on 22nd August. The ballad, which was inspired following a private screening of the The Three Musketeers with its director Paul W. S. Anderson in LA, will be the theme song of the highly-anticipated movie, which hits the big screen from 1st September. Speaking about the track, Gary Barlow said: “The film is visually so rich and beautiful that our main challenge was to then match it musically. We’ve returned to guitars, real pianos and a conventional song structure to achieve this. We also thought that the Musketeers reminded us of ourselves.” When We Were Young features on Take That's No.1 album Progressed and is available to buy right now from iTunes.
