dope!

i don't think this will be any different to the last album. He doesn't really have a unique take on anything.

 

I cannot understand what you mean. For a start this album has reached No.2 in the album chart while Wide Awake got to No.3. What do you mean about him not having a unique take? Singing in Italian is rather unique for a 20-year-old "geordie" lad! And singing very well indeed. I could go on but will pass for the moment.

I mean he's just going to be an album artist.

What's wrong with that? As I understand it albums make more money than singles which are usually tied to a so-called play list which are compiled at the whim of a couple of executives at a radio station.

Nothing whatsoever. I just mean he won't really need to promote singles, as he was always more suited to being an albums artist.

I have a feeling there might be a single or two from this album later on.

 

Anyway congratulations to Joe for the gold certification = 100,000 copies shipped to the retailers. Confusing I know but I have had it on good authority that this is so.

Nothing whatsoever. I just mean he won't really need to promote singles, as he was always more suited to being an albums artist.

 

In order to be an albums artist he needs to sell albums... and he doesn't.

To be an albums artist you need to have more success with your albums than with your singles. Joe isn't releasing singles in this era, and his album is doing surprisingly well. That makes him an album artist, even if it isn't a massive seller.

 

The Gold thing is a bit deceptive, but it shows that the retailers have faith in his ability to shift units in the coming weeks.

He isn't gold.

 

PIERCES - YOU & I

Gold Certification (Album) 02 September 2011 UNIVERSAL MUSIC (POLYDOR) Released 30 May 201

 

Only new update on Friday.

Joe isn't releasing singles in this era, and his album is doing surprisingly well. That makes him an album artist, even if it isn't a massive seller.

 

The Gold thing is a bit deceptive, but it shows that the retailers have faith in his ability to shift units in the coming weeks.

 

I don't agree, you need to be a successful artist in the first place, only then it shows if you're an albums seller or a singles seller.

 

If my single flops and my album goes silver I'm not an albums seller because I'm not even successful.

I still can't understand why he won over Olly.

 

I mean look at the way their careers have went post X Factor. speaks for itself really.

I don't agree, you need to be a successful artist in the first place, only then it shows if you're an albums seller or a singles seller.

 

If my single flops and my album goes silver I'm not an albums seller because I'm not even successful.

I disagree. Loads of non-chart artists have perfectly successful careers never selling much in the way, of anything of singles, but selling albums albeit in low volumes compared to the big pop acts. They are album acts.

 

Anyway, Joe was described as an album artist, which means that's the focus of his career. It isn't a judgement on how successful he is or isn't at it, it's a description of the direction of his career.

He isn't gold.

 

PIERCES - YOU & I

Gold Certification (Album) 02 September 2011 UNIVERSAL MUSIC (POLYDOR) Released 30 May 201

 

Only new update on Friday.

 

He is gold. He confirmed that on twitter and someone from the official charts has also confirmed it.

I still can't understand why he won over Olly.

 

I mean look at the way their careers have went post X Factor. speaks for itself really.

 

Joe is a lot better, and the one with real talent. Winning that show with over 60%, and another show with 80% are pretty crazy. There really is no talent and nothing really with Olly, and speaks a lot when he took his clothes off for a number 1.

 

What it speaks is that Joe was stuck with a shite label company that doesn't know shite about music. Syco is truly an awful label. It really shows more now with Universal.

 

Syco can try to give him crap and no support, but they can't take away his talent, and why he was always better and the winner in the end. Joe was the real stuff, and he is only 20 years old.

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Well Olly has a decent voice (so does Joe) and he writes (some?) of his own songs so you are... wrong to say he has no real talent. He can sing and he can write. Does Joe write any of his own songs?

An artist does not need to write songs. The person can be just a singer (Whitney, Katherine, Alex) or maybe do a little songwriting. Doesn't make a difference. Adele, Florence, Whitney and Ellie Goulding have all been famous with their cover songs. It is about having support if the artist wants to, which Syco never gave Joe and Joe wanted to do some songwriting. He is only 20 years old anyways and has a lot of time.

 

Olly has a below average voice. There is nothing to it; my younger cousin can sing better than Olly. Joe's is pretty exceptional with his tone and great control at such a young age.

 

 

Being able to write songs does matter though, it shows the singer can do more than just sing.

Olly has a better voice than people give him credit for. Joe's isn't as good as you say it is.

Being able to write songs does matter though, it shows the singer can do more than just sing.

Olly has a better voice than people give him credit for. Joe's isn't as good as you say it is.

 

It is about the song and the production done. Not about the song writer. When I heard Adele sing Make You Feel My Love, I didn't even know it was a cover, and people, in general, could care less as how well it did. Same with Florence.

 

Joe winning X Factor with just his voice and then winning like crazy again in opera, which he has never done in his life, should tell you otherwise. ;)

It is about the song and the production done. Not about the song writer. When I heard Adele sing Make You Feel My Love, I didn't even know it was a cover, and people, in general, could care less as how well it did. Same with Florence.

 

Joe winning X Factor with just his voice and then winning like crazy again in opera, which he has never done in his life, should tell you otherwise. ;)

 

The ability to write a good song is important too, otherwise the world would be full of shit songs with terrible lyrics. No amount of decent singing or production could hide that.

 

Steve Brookstein won X-factor with just his voice and look where he ended up. Singing opera isn't exactly difficult, any trained singer could learn how to do it really.

I mean, Kylie Minogue has never done Opera but she sings parts of Your Disco Needs You in an Opera manner.

The ability to write a good song is important too, otherwise the world would be full of shit songs with terrible lyrics. No amount of decent singing or production could hide that.

 

Steve Brookstein won X-factor with just his voice and look where he ended up. Singing opera isn't exactly difficult, any trained singer could learn how to do it really.

I mean, Kylie Minogue has never done Opera but she sings parts of Your Disco Needs You in an Opera manner.

 

Are you serious? Singing opera is not difficult??!! You must think everyone can magically become an opera singer by just opening their mouth. It looks like you don't know how opera singers work.

 

Also, Joe is not a trained singer. He never did it before, and he is still very young.

 

Steve won because of Simon and the manipulation that year, not because of his voice. G4 should have won.

 

Whitney and Britney Spears never had a problem about not writing songs. ;) Yes, song writing is important, but a singer does not need to have original matter to make a song great like Adele's Make You Feel My Love.

 

Also, have you listened to half the shite in the charts? You described it perfectly "shit songs with terrible lyrics" like Swagger Jagger.

 

There are people out there called songwriters. ;)