NBC are in a similar position to CW really, although I guess they have 2-3 'hit' comedies and one/two 'hit' dramas (using the term vv loosely) so they need to anchor entire nights around them. Some of their pilots look very strong though - the Western Frontier is probably the biggest gamble they could take but it could pay off big time, apparently the visuals are stunning.

 

WOAH ABC has a pilot with Mary McCormack? Pick up now pls.

NBC are in a similar position to CW really, although I guess they have 2-3 'hit' comedies and one/two 'hit' dramas (using the term vv loosely) so they need to anchor entire nights around them. Some of their pilots look very strong though - the Western Frontier is probably the biggest gamble they could take but it could pay off big time, apparently the visuals are stunning.

 

 

I think NBC have some good pilots aswell. I can't remember them all, but I reckon they will have to take on 3/4 new dramas. I'm not sure what's behind their lacklustre performance really, I don't think cable has really affected them. Must be poor marketing stratagies. They've definitely made some bad decisions this year. Their saving grace really is The Voice and The Office at the moment.

 

I dunno what I'd do if Vampire Diaries got cancelled!

I dunno what I'd do if Vampire Diaries got cancelled!

 

 

It won't. It's The CW's best show and 1 season away from syndication :D

It won't. It's The CW's best show and 1 season away from syndication :D

 

Being stupid, but what does that mean? :lol:

Once a scripted show has enough episodes (normally 88), it can be sold for a fee to another network for 'stripped syndication' where episodes can be shown at the same time every day, Monday-Friday. Networks will often keep shows around even if they have low ratings if they're one season or less away from syndication (such as TVD is, having 66 episodes at the end of S3) so they can collect the money from selling it into syndication. Not the best explaination but I think it gets the point across.

 

 

I'm hoping The CW cancel the majority of their line-up. Just to try and ensure that 'The Selection' gets a place.

Once a scripted show has enough episodes (normally 88), it can be sold for a fee to another network for 'stripped syndication' where episodes can be shown at the same time every day, Monday-Friday. Networks will often keep shows around even if they have low ratings if they're one season or less away from syndication (such as TVD is, having 66 episodes at the end of S3) so they can collect the money from selling it into syndication. Not the best explaination but I think it gets the point across.

I'm hoping The CW cancel the majority of their line-up. Just to try and ensure that 'The Selection' gets a place.

 

Hence why if a show is green lit for season 3, 90% of the time it means there will also be a season 4 as well. (assuming every season has had 22 or more episodes.)

I really feel like syndication has a part in network ratings starting to fall, when a show is kept on just for syndication it's ratings would continue to fall and when new shows come they don't get a bigger audience to play off.

I really feel like syndication has a part in network ratings starting to fall, when a show is kept on just for syndication it's ratings would continue to fall and when new shows come they don't get a bigger audience to play off.

 

I dunno, I think a big part of network ratings starting to fall is both down to the real infux of cable TV over the past 3/4 years. More choice for viewers, and not only that but the amount of ways you can watch TV shows now is unreal. Who in their right mind would watch 15 minutes of adverts when they don't have to. I think syndication can do shows good too, look at Big Bang Theory for example.

Networks need to start embracing a cable model of shorter seasons (15 eps) airing uninterrupted. The breaks from week and random repeats are what's killing network TV, not cable competition. Nobody knows when the hell their favourite show is on and after a while they stop bothering trying to watch live. They might DVR it but when you have a backlog of shows built up actually watching them can feel like a chore.

 

Maybe if they found a way for syndication to be 75 episodes they could do the 15 ep season thing. That would also sustain quality and in theory viewers wouldn't turn off in droves every new season.

 

I dunno, I think a big part of network ratings starting to fall is both down to the real infux of cable TV over the past 3/4 years. More choice for viewers, and not only that but the amount of ways you can watch TV shows now is unreal. Who in their right mind would watch 15 minutes of adverts when they don't have to. I think syndication can do shows good too, look at Big Bang Theory for example.

 

Well it helps for successful shows it doesn't really do anything for the shows that stay just for syndication and hinders new shows.

 

Networks need to start embracing a cable model of shorter seasons (15 eps) airing uninterrupted. The breaks from week and random repeats are what's killing network TV, not cable competition. Nobody knows when the hell their favourite show is on and after a while they stop bothering trying to watch live. They might DVR it but when you have a backlog of shows built up actually watching them can feel like a chore.

 

Maybe if they found a way for syndication to be 75 episodes they could do the 15 ep season thing. That would also sustain quality and in theory viewers wouldn't turn off in droves every new season.

 

 

I definitely think they should be cutting the amount of episodes ordered, then they could have more shows at better quality with less breaks.

but when you have a backlog of shows built up actually watching them can feel like a chore.

Bitch please. There's nothing better than watching one of your favourite show's TWENTY EPISODES IN A ROW *.*

Edited April 29, 201213 yr by Caïn

Jark's right. Virgin are thieving their TiVo box back so I've had to go through the hard disk contents. SUCH a pain trying to get through it all. I'm an extreme TV watcher but not even I could cope with the DVR backlog.

NBC will premiere the Matthew Perry comedy pilot Go On (which they picked up early) in August coming off their Olympics coverage. Same for Grimm season two.

 

That could potentially be a genius move.

NBC has picked up 'Save Me'.

Could be a great idea, but I can't help remembering that 'Up All Night' started with 3.7 and ended with 1.4, so hopefully they'll manage to avoid shows doing that next season!

Sounds decent... shouldn't be much of a stretch for batshot crazy Anne Heche to play a crazy woman who thinks she's channeling God. :D

 

'The New Normal' [Ryan Murphy comedy] & 'Revolution' [JJ Abrams drama] both ordered by NBC.