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Surely if you were talking about a 90's list, Robert Miles - Children would be in there?

 

And I agree about the Spice Girls, "Wannabe" should pretty much be in a lot of all-time lists. Ground-breaking song, whether you find it annoying or not~

I always loved Womack & Womack's Teardrops.

 

Me too :heart:

 

Also, I can't argue with this:

 

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02. Joy Division – “Love Will Tear Us Apart”

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Three of the greatest songs ever written.

 

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At least now we know where they are going wrong in the last 15 years list. Those are the only ones I approve off. I'd probably include more Pearl Jam (Jeremy, Even Flow) Hole (Malibu) Jeff Buckley (Grace, Last Goodbye should be bumped to top 10), Alice in Chains (Would), Placebo (Every You, Every Me), Smashing Pumpkins (Disarm, Tonight Tonight),No Doubt (Just a Girl) and Nirvana (Come as you Are)

 

On top of that I would add more dance.

 

Surely if you were talking about a 90's list, Robert Miles - Children would be in there?

 

And I agree about the Spice Girls, "Wannabe" should pretty much be in a lot of all-time lists. Ground-breaking song, whether you find it annoying or not~

 

 

The NME rarely acknowledge pure dance. The Prodigy is about as far as they go. To have a 90s list without dance music, crazy. Children is like the hymn of Acid House

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what sort of ground did Wannabe break?

 

The list contradicts their 'Last 15 Years List'.

 

Plus any 90s list that doesn't include Enjoy the Silence is deeply questionable.

what sort of ground did Wannabe break?

 

The list contradicts their 'Last 15 Years List'.

 

Plus any 90s list that doesn't include Enjoy the Silence is deeply questionable.

 

I'm guessing that they think of it as an 80s record.

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There isn't enough dance music in it either. And that New Raddicles song is shite.
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It needs a trance anthem - System F -Out of the Blue, preferably....

How the holy f*** does Robert Miles deserve inclusion?

Nothing more than Jean Michel Jarre for the rave generation. Absolutely dire.

 

And the only thing ground breaking about Wannabe is it ushered in a whole new age of bland insipid boy and girl bands.

 

Oh and I don't find it annoying, just bloody shit.

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How the holy f*** does Robert Miles deserve inclusion?

Nothing more than Jean Michel Jarre for the rave generation. Absolutely dire.

 

And the only thing ground breaking about Wannabe is it ushered in a whole new age of bland insipid boy and girl bands.

 

Oh and I don't find it annoying, just bloody shit.

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How the holy f*** does Robert Miles deserve inclusion?

Nothing more than Jean Michel Jarre for the rave generation. Absolutely dire.

 

And the only thing ground breaking about Wannabe is it ushered in a whole new age of bland insipid boy and girl bands.

 

Oh and I don't find it annoying, just bloody shit.

 

I'd say Robert Miles being derivative of someone that great isn't a bad thing? A lot of bands and singers draw copious amounts of inspiration from great artists yet still receive acclaim .

 

On it's own however that track was a phenomenon, because of the concept of what it was to be used for and how it unified a generation of people at the time. I don't think it should be shooed away on the grounds that it's a dance track, it's hardly generic trash. But in a publication like this it wouldn't fit.

 

Spice Girls were ground-breaking because it was a controversial, abrasive, and new - yet despite mixed reviews at the time is looked back with positive reviews across the board - which is the case for a lot of famous 'credible' bands whose recognition is awarded on nostalgic principle. Spice Girls were a revolution that is looked back on fondly, and not sneered at like one would expect.

 

Tbf, it doesn't matter about if it's included in something like this - NME are one of the most back-and-forth when it comes to staff lists. Songs and artists they TRASHED are now at the forefront of their lists because they're all about cliché, nostalgic choices / the shocking ironic entries. They just seem to alter their decisions whenever they feel like to appear like they know the trends of the people, even if it goes against their previous thoughts.

Tbf, it doesn't matter about if it's included in something like this - NME are one of the most back-and-forth when it comes to staff lists. Songs and artists they TRASHED are now at the forefront of their lists because they're all about cliché, nostalgic choices / the shocking ironic entries. They just seem to alter their decisions whenever they feel like to appear like they know the trends of the people, even if it goes against their previous thoughts.

The other important thing to remember is all NME list are done by either the staff or the readership. These are two constantly changing entities so it stands to reason that there will be variety in the list. Time also changes individuals views on songs.

 

I'm not overly defending the NME as I've always seen it as a pretentious load of tosh but inconsistent lists aren't really an issue for me.

 

 

As for Robert Miles, yes it was a big hit but so was Bryan Adams' Everything I Do and that isn't seen as being anything other than a bland, self important nonentity either. When I think of 90s dance music Children is was down the list.

 

And Wannabe was a hugely important and signifigant track that did help to define the 90s and beyond. It was a fresh sound and spawned a load of imitators. Much like Kylie's I Should Be So Lucky ten years before. That doesn't stop it from being crap, lightweight fluff marketed almost exclusively at impressible pre-teen girls. It was only the girls forceful personalities and clever media savvy that stopped them going the way of Milan or 21st Century Girls

I'd say Robert Miles being derivative of someone that great isn't a bad thing? A lot of bands and singers draw copious amounts of inspiration from great artists yet still receive acclaim .

 

On it's own however that track was a phenomenon, because of the concept of what it was to be used for and how it unified a generation of people at the time. I don't think it should be shooed away on the grounds that it's a dance track, it's hardly generic trash. But in a publication like this it wouldn't fit.

 

Spice Girls were ground-breaking because it was a controversial, abrasive, and new - yet despite mixed reviews at the time is looked back with positive reviews across the board - which is the case for a lot of famous 'credible' bands whose recognition is awarded on nostalgic principle. Spice Girls were a revolution that is looked back on fondly, and not sneered at like one would expect.

 

Tbf, it doesn't matter about if it's included in something like this - NME are one of the most back-and-forth when it comes to staff lists. Songs and artists they TRASHED are now at the forefront of their lists because they're all about cliché, nostalgic choices / the shocking ironic entries. They just seem to alter their decisions whenever they feel like to appear like they know the trends of the people, even if it goes against their previous thoughts.

 

Wannabe - shocking abrasive and new! It was just perfectly marketed! So a triumph for the fat cat who was managing them and not much artistic merit at all. The only thing it started was the perfect blueprint for a lot of the shit we've had in the intervening 16 years. The Spice Girls should not be celebrated, they should be vilified.

And I don't think you quite understood my point about JMJ - being derivative of someone who was awful is not great. And don't give me that guff about JMJ being a synth pioneer. Kraftwerk and others were there first. Populizer yes, pioneer no.

I have nothing against dance records - in fact one of the most glaring omissions for me in the 80s list was Stakker Humanoid - but Children did not unify a generation of people it unified a group of people and as such does not represent much to a great many people other than what was that bland thing that was just on TOTP. Oh was that it, what's next?

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Wannabe is only abrasive if you were into Enya. Children is not exactly on a par with Paul Van Dyk's For an Angel when it comes to emotional, commercial trance music.

 

 

The way I see it is - if NME claim to be inclusive of the best of all popular genres they have done 90s dance a disservice. The inclusion of What Time Is Love? is warranted but they sure as hell could have included Out of Space or some other rave track that has stood the test of time well. The ignored trance altogether, which was not an insignificant dance genre and takes a lot of musical skill to master. It's no less worthy than big beat or whatever the Chemical Brothers/Fat Boy Slim went under in the late 90s.

 

I've had enough of complaining about NME lists for a lifetime. I will say that I'm pleased to see The KLF & The Beta Band in there and very disappointed to see The Verve continue to reach the high positions...but good that the Oasis obsession seems to have subsided somewhat.

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