June 4, 201213 yr ....and a recap of the Top 20 01 THE BEATLES (She Loves You) 02 ELVIS PRESLEY (It's Now or Never) 03 CLIFF RICHARD (The Young Ones) 04 MADONNA (Into The Groove) 05 MICHAEL JACKSON (Earth Song) 06 ELTON JOHN (Candle In The Wind '97) 07 QUEEN(Bohemian Rhapsody) 08 ABBA (Dancing Queen) 09 DAVID BOWIE (Let's Dance) 10 RIHANNA (Only Girl In The World) 11 PAUL McCARTNEY (Mull of Kintyre) 12 KYLIE MINOGUE (Can't Get You Out of My Head) 13 ROLLING STONES (Satisfaction) 14 ROD STEWART (Sailing) 15 TAKE THAT (Back For Good) 16 STEVIE WONDER (I Just Called To Say I Love You) 17 OASIS (Wonderwall) 18 EMINEM (Love The Way You Lie) 19 WHITNEY HOUSTON (I Will Always Love You) 20 SPICE GIRLS (Wannabe)
June 4, 201213 yr Did anyone else notice, that Tony Blackburn seemed to misunderstand the Chart, when he got to The Beatles at No.1? Both before & after he played 'She Loves You', he announced it as the All Time Best Selling Single, in the UK. He seemed to forget that he was playing The Beatles biggest Seller, & not the UK's biggest Seller..... Edited June 4, 201213 yr by zeus555
June 4, 201213 yr Can someone tell me why this show is not available on iPlayer or Listen Again? I wanted to listen to it all in a quiet moment :( :snif: :cry:
June 4, 201213 yr Can someone tell me why this show is not available on iPlayer or Listen Again? I wanted to listen to it all in a quiet moment :( :snif: :cry: it Will Later, try 2 or three hours, it says comming soon. Edited June 4, 201213 yr by smiffj
June 4, 201213 yr 2002/2009 lists if anyone wants! Here are the biggest selling singles artists of all time in the UK, as revealed in the Ultimate Pop Star programme on Channel 4 on Sunday night. 2002 1.Cliff Richard (20,969,006) 2.The Beatles (20,799,632) 3.Elvis Presley (19,293,118) 4.Madonna (14,562,856) 5.Elton John (13,475,063) 6.Michael Jackson (11,310,958) 7.Queen (10,334,713) 8.ABBA (10,004,039) 9.Paul McCartney (9,781,603) 10.David Bowie (9,392,410) 11.Rod Stewart (9,046,492) 12.Rolling Stones (8,348,470) 13.Kylie Minogue (7,994,130) 14.Stevie Wonder (7,614,227) 15.Spice Girls (7,507,213) 16.Shakin Stevens (7,108,330) 17.Whitney Houston (6,993,105) 18.Bee Gees (6,943,851) 19.George Michael (6,819,419) 20.Status Quo (6,727,822) 21.Boney M (6,587,018) 22.Slade (6,520,171) 23.Olivia Newton John (6,493,006) 24.Blondie (6,456,881) 25.Boyzone (6,435,711) 26.Oasis (6,225,785) 27.UB40 (5,997,222) 28.Tom Jones (5,892,220) 29.Celine Dion (5,683,264) 30.The Police (5,617,175) 31.Madness (5,564,459) 32.Diana Ross (5,326,780) 33.Wham! (5,298,431) 34.Adam Ant (5,296,965) 35.The Jam (5,094,055) 36.Frankie Goes To Hollywood (5,008,067) 37.Robbie Williams (4,973,227) 38.Pet Shop Boys (4,913,655) 39.Phil Collins (4,889,059) 40.Wet Wet Wet (4,877,328) 41. Duran Duran (4,846,531) 42.The Everly Brothers (4,827,957) 43.The Shadows (4,793,537) 44.Westlife (4,726,116) 45.Gary Glitter (4,717,834) 46.Engelbert Humperdinck (4,710,328) 47.U2 (4,663,427) 48.Bryan Adams (4,614,135) 49.Frank Sinatra (4,597,630) 50.The Hollies (4,597,450) The Top 62 UK Singles Acts - to W/E 3rd January 2009. The List is an up-date of the 2002 OCC/Channel 4 Top 50 It is courtesy of Andy at Havenforum.co.uk 1 Cliff Richard - 21271000 2 Beatles - 20800000 3 Elvis Presley - 20663000 4 Madonna - 16492000 5 Elton John - 13886000 6 Michael Jackson - 11826500 7 Queen - 10800000 8 ABBA - 10310200 9 Paul McCartney/Wings - 9869000 10 David Bowie - 9426000 11 Kylie Minogue - 9073000 12 Rod Stewart - 9050500 13 Rolling Stones - 8446500 14 Spice Girls - 7756500 15 Stevie Wonder - 7744500 16 Shakin Stevens - 7192500 17 Oasis - 7090500 18 Whitney Houston - 7017000 19 George Michael - 7009000 20 Bee Gees - 6944000 21 Status Quo - 6808000 22 Take That - 6650500 23 Boyzone - 6628500 24 Slade - 6619700 25 Boney M - 6612000 26 Olivia Newton John - 6493100 27 Blondie - 6462000 28 UB40 - 6027000 29 Tom Jones - 5897000 30 Celine Dion - 5830000 31 Westlife - 5819000 32 Police - 5624000 33 Madness - 5587000 34 Robbie Williams - 5549200 35 Britney Spears - 5523500 36 Diana Ross - 5423500 37 Wham! - 5400600 38 U2 - 5396500 39 Adam & The Ants/Adam Ant - 5297000 40 Mariah Carey - 5127000 41 Jam - 5107000 42 Phil Collins - 5023000 43 Frankie Goes To Hollywood - 5020500 44 Pet Shop Boys - 5010000 45 Wet Wet Wet - 4905000 46 Duran Duran - 4900000 47 Everly Brothers - 4828000 48 Shadows - 4794000 49 Gary Glitter - 4718000 50 Engelbert Humperdinck - 4712500 51 Bryan Adams - 4710500 52 Frank Sinatra - 4623000 53 Hollies - 4597500 54 Prince - 4448000 55 Hot Chocolate - 4442000 56 Janet Jackson - 4422000 57 Steps - 4408500 58 Donna Summer - 4390000 59 Electric Light Orchestra - 4241500 60 Eminem - 4214500 61 Erasure - 4133000 62 Cher - 4081000 source ukmix.
June 4, 201213 yr According to OCC, these are the sales totals for the top 12. 01 THE BEATLES 21.9m 02 ELVIS PRESLEY 21.6m 03 CLIFF RICHARD 21.5m 04 MADONNA 17.6m 05 MICHAEL JACKSON 15.3m 06 ELTON JOHN 14.8m 07 QUEEN 12.6m 08 ABBA 11.2m 09 DAVID BOWIE 10.6m 10 RIHANNA 10.4m 11 PAUL McCARTNEY 10.2m 12 KYLIE MINOGUE 10.1m It would be interesting to know exactly how duets / featured artist credits are treated.
June 4, 201213 yr Blackjane - The OCC counted Duo's as both Acts being allowed those Sales. So John Travolta & Olvia Newton-John both got the Sales from their 'Grease' Duets. (Olivia would not be as high as No.38 had that not happened). Kylie Minogue & Jason Donovan, both got the Sales from 'Especially For You'. The OCC regarded such Acts as sharing equal credit. However, if an Act was 'Featured', The OCC do not regard that Act as having equal credit, & they were not allowed those Sales. So Rihanna lost over 3 Million Sales, from Hits that she was 'Featured' on. And any Acts 'Featured' on her Hits, were not allowed those Sales. With her 'Featured' Hits added in, Rihanna would have well over 13,000,000 Sales, & she would rise from 10th place to 7th place. Edited June 4, 201213 yr by zeus555
June 4, 201213 yr Blackjane - The OCC counted Duo's as both Acts being allowed those Sales. So John Travolta & Olvia Newton-John both got the Sales from their 'Grease' Duets. (Olivia would not be as high as No.38 had that not happened). Kylie Minogue & Jason Donovan, both got the Sales from 'Especially For You'. The OCC regarded such Acts as sharing equal credit. However, if an Act was 'Featured', The OCC do not regard that Act as having equal credit, & they were not allowed those Sales. So Rihanna lost over 3 Million Sales, from Hits that she was 'Featured' on. And any Acts 'Featured' on her Hits, were not allowed those Sales. With her 'Featured' Hits added in, Rihanna would have well over 13,000,000 Sales, & she would rise from 10th place to 7th place. That's for the explanation - that's quite a bizarre and arbitrary set of rules to use. It was also interesting to see David Guetta appearing towards the lower end of the list (albeit with 5m+ sales.) In reality he is just producing songs for featured singers that under many other circumstances would be credited to the singers themselves.
June 4, 201213 yr That's for the explanation - that's quite a bizarre and arbitrary set of rules to use. It was also interesting to see David Guetta appearing towards the lower end of the list (albeit with 5m+ sales.) In reality he is just producing songs for featured singers that under many other circumstances would be credited to the singers themselves. It's arbitrary but it's simple. Allowing all featured artists would have been just as arbitrary as it would have ranked Jay-Z's performance on Umbrella or Christina Aguilera on Moves Like Jagger as being just as significant as Rihanna's performance on Love The Way You Lie.
June 4, 201213 yr At the same time as being 'simple', the method used has not been consistent. Why have The Shadows not been given the Sales from their Hits with Cliff, where those Hits were credited to Cliff Richard & The Shadows? That is an equal credit. The Shadows would be far higher than No.58, had they been allowed those Sales. They include 7 No.1's - one of which, ('The Young Ones'), was a UK Million Seller. Edited June 4, 201213 yr by zeus555
June 5, 201213 yr According to OCC, these are the sales totals for the top 12. 01 THE BEATLES 21.9m 02 ELVIS PRESLEY 21.6m 03 CLIFF RICHARD 21.5m Very tight for the top 3. If Cliff had a big Christmas single (don't laugh, it could happen) then perhaps he could return to no.1?
June 5, 201213 yr Anyone know how many sales the Beatles are ratching up each week now that their catalogue is available from iTunes?
June 5, 201213 yr The Beatles have added 1.1m since the last Virgin book. It's safe to assume that physical sales will have been close to zero in that period. That's an average of around 14,000 per week although a lot of the sales would have been accumulated in the first few weeks after they were added to iTunes.
June 5, 201213 yr The Beatles have added 1.1m since the last Virgin book. It's safe to assume that physical sales will have been close to zero in that period. That's an average of around 14,000 per week although a lot of the sales would have been accumulated in the first few weeks after they were added to iTunes. Since 2009 Cliff has added just 0.2m. This is presumably from sales of his Christmas songs, he hasn't charted with a new track in that period. Trickle sales of his other tracks must be practically non-existent. The Beatles as you say, 1.1m. I know that there was a flurry of interest when when they first appeared on iTunes but have they *really* sold over a million singles in 3 years? I guess it's spread over a huge number of tracks, but even so it sounds an awful lot. Elvis is even more baffling. Where does he get 0.9m sales from?? Must trickle-sell far better than Cliff.....
June 5, 201213 yr There was some digital info about them all in the MW sales report a few weeks ago: A George Harrison song from The Beatles' 1969 album Abbey Road, Here Comes The Sun was not a single at the time but did finally chart in November 2010, following the historic release of The Beatles’ catalogue on iTunes. It was one of four Beatles tracks to make the Top 75 at the time, and one of 32 to make the Top 200. In that first week on iTunes, 132,649 Beatles tracks were sold. A couple of weeks ago that total passed the million mark, and as of Saturday 8 April, total Beatles digital track sales were 1,023,037. The four tracks that made the Top 75 that very first week remain the Beatles’ four biggest sellers digitally. They are: Hey Jude (68,309), Let It Be (67,185), Twist And Shout (48,029) and Here Comes The Sun (46,208). There is a big gap to the fifth biggest seller, Come Together (27,654). The Beatles' digital sales have made a big difference in the ongoing battle for the title of Britain's all-time biggest selling singles act. An OCC survey in 2003 came up with the following top three: 3 Elvis Presley - 19,243,960 sales, 2 The Beatles - 20,799,632 sales, 1 Cliff Richard - 20,908,500 sales. In the 452 chart weeks that have elapsed since then, Richard has sold a further 590,451 singles, raising his overall tally to 21,498,951, Presley has sold 2,288,286, increasing his tally to 21,532,246, and The Beatles have sold 1,024,664, increasing their tally to 21,824,296, making them the UK's biggest singles act. Without digital sales, they would be far adrift of Presley – since 2003 they have had only residual sales of 959 CDs, 652 7-inch and 16 cassette s. Although Presley has sold twice as many singles as The Beatles since 2003, his huge back catalogue has been available digitally for a lot longer than theirs, and in 2005, his 18 number ones were all re-released on 10-inch and CD, boosting his sales considerably.
June 5, 201213 yr What's the cut off for these sales? I'm sure we found love has sold more than only girl for example... Also good point and quite right about the shadows, the OCC aren't being consistent with their own rules. Can anyone have a go at any estimates beyond top 12?
June 5, 201213 yr I assume that the OCC's thinking is that The Shadows on their own were an instrumental band (with the exception of their Eurovision entry Let Me Be The One). People who bought singles by Cliff & The Shadows were, by and large, Cliff fans rather than Shadows fans.
June 5, 201213 yr Someone called ThunderRoad, (UKMIX), has come up with Sales for the entire Top 60. No.13 to No.60 are estimates. Some of the Acts have equal Totals. (Presumably, there are 10,000 here, & 20,000 there, seperating those Acts). 01 THE BEATLES 21.9m 02 ELVIS PRESLEY 21.6m 03 CLIFF RICHARD 21.5m 04 MADONNA 17.6m 05 MICHAEL JACKSON 15.3m 06 ELTON JOHN 14.8m 07 QUEEN 12.6m 08 ABBA 11.2m 09 DAVID BOWIE 10.6m 10 RIHANNA 10.4m 11 PAUL McCARTNEY 10.2m 12 KYLIE MINOGUE 10.1m 13 ROLLING STONES 9.9m 14 ROD STEWART 9.9m 15 TAKE THAT 8.9m 16 STEVIE WONDER 8.9m 17 OASIS 8.9m 18 EMINEM 8.6m 19 WHITNEY HOUSTON 8.4m 20 SPICE GIRLS 7.9m 21 GEORGE MICHAEL 7.8m 22 ROBBIE WILLIAMS 7.5m 23 BEE GEES 7.5m 24 U2 7.4m 25 SHAKIN' STEVENS 7.3m 26 BRITNEY SPEARS 7.2m 27 STATUS QUO 7.2m 28 LADY GAGA 7.2m 29 BOYZONE 7.0m 30 BLONDIE 7.0m 31 SLADE 6.9m 32 THE BLACK EYED PEAS 6.8m 33 BONEY M 6.8m 34 WESTLIFE 6.8m 35 CELINE DION 6.6m 36 BEYONCE 6.6m 37 UB40 6.6m 38 OLIVIA NEWTON JOHN 6.6m 39 MARIAH CAREY 6.6m 40 TOM JONES 6.3m 41 MADNESS 6.1m 42 THE POLICE 6.1m 43 WHAM! 5.9m 44 PHIL COLLINS 5.8m 45 DIANA ROSS 5.7m 46 THE JAM 5.7m 47 BRYAN ADAMS 5.6m 48 PET SHOP BOYS 5.6m 49 DAVID GUETTA 5.6m 50 ADAM ANT 5.5m 51 DURAN DURAN 5.4m 52 FRANK SINATRA 5.4m 53 FRANKIE GOES TO HOLLYWOOD 5.3m 54 PRINCE 5.3m 55 KATY PERRY 5.2m 56 WET WET WET 5.1m 57 THE EVERLY BROTHERS 4.9m 58 THE SHADOWS 4.9m 59 PINK 4.9m 60 COLDPLAY 4.8m
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