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What is dance music for you?

 

There are 3 different types of dance music for me.

 

1. Modern dance "shit"

2. Club music (Electronic, trance e.t.c)

3. More pop, than dance [for simple, some songs from Cascada]

 

I dislike/hate # 1 and 2, but can listen # 3.

 

 

So, you dont. Unless it's a pop song with a heavier beat.

 

Dance music for me is more about the music and less about the vocal melody - rave and late 90s trance are my favourite genres.

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Isnt the 1980 chart where there was issues with the no1. Alot people said Happy Xmas was the 'real' no1 because the sales after the chart werent counted as in those days the chart stopped after xmas week as it was a dead week?

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Isnt the 1980 chart where there was issues with the no1. Alot people said Happy Xmas was the 'real' no1 because the sales after the chart werent counted as in those days the chart stopped after xmas week as it was a dead week?

W.E 03.01.81 is the chart in question and yes BMRB didn't collect data for that week. What would have been No1 is therefore speculation.

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It would have been John Lennon - Happy Xmas !!!!!

How do you know that?

Its just a known piece of info which hasnt been declared fact from the OCC! ;)
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Its just a known piece of info which hasnt been declared fact from the OCC! ;)

"But "Known" by whom is my point. As the chart compilers didn't collect info it is therefore not possible to say who was No 1 that week. Indeed those who produced other charts through the period (NME, Melody maker) all put "Starting Together" back at the top based on 4 days of sales, however they were not given data by Woolworths, who were at the time the biggest single provider of sales in the market (some estimate 33% of the market at that point). Therefore I would say this info is an "Urban Myth" at best! :D

Its just a known piece of info which hasnt been declared fact from the OCC! ;)

No. It was a thing put about by the compilers of the self made fanzine "Chartwatch". Never was a chart compiled. And if you look at the Record Business Research figures. There is no way that "War Is Over", overtook "Starting Over", let alone "Grandma". Even with a mythical 33% Woolworths extra added figure. For not including Woolworths, you lose nearly half of Granma's figure, hence why "Starting Over" was the Record Business Magazine Christmas #1. Infact I believe "Grandma" only made #3 on that chart & Jona Lewie was #1, before Lennon was shot.

 

The NME & Melody Maker can't even be compared for different cut off days. NME going from Thursday to Weds & MM from Fri to Thurs. In anycase, both of those papers didn't do a chart that week, either. Week ending 3rd of Jan 81 is actually the chart, that would of appeared in the papers on Week ending 27th Dec...except there were no editions, that week! The NME & MM Charts were always available on a Saturday morning. So, w/k ending 3rd Jan (for NME & MM), were new charts on 20th & covered the period 11th to 17th Dec (for NME) & 12th to 18th (for MM)...Not like Dasher stated at all, even.

 

From what i've also seen, is likely BMRB made a mistake in putting it at #2 on Tuesday 6th Jan 81. Figures going in wrong boxes, all over the place. What with 3 Lennons & Jona Lewie (with the same initials) the chart was a mess. It's more likely that it only really made #3, not even #2. Where (i'm likely to reckon) that Starting Over was really still at #2 on the 6th. the 6th covered 29th to 3rd Jan. Indicating falling sales in a quiet period. Even more apparent on Tuesday 13th, when the single was #3.

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Thanks Dave just wanted to start a discussion about the incident!
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GEZZA’S SEVENTH CHART OF CHRISTMAS- 2001

http://resources2.news.com.au/images/2008/12/01/va1237343695198/Nicole-Kidman-Robbie-Williams-6377587.jpg

For a Christmas race to the top which was this close it was a curiously dull lifeless affair. As soon as news of a Robbie/ Nicole duet was broke it seemed the rest of the pop world kind of gave up hope to the extent that the only new entry in the top 25 was by the unknown Gordon Haskell at No 2. This was the result of a campaign by Terry Wogan and Radio 2 to get the singer’s easy listening tones to the top, and benefited considerably for being virtually the only option other than the aforementioned duet available.

http://www.famemagazine.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/Gordon-Haskell1.jpg

Indeed the week before SS was released half of the top 10 consisted of new entries obviously convinced that this was their one and only chance at No 1 and so it proved. With Williams/ Nicole leading from the off speculation that Haskell could provide an upset was quickly silenced.

1- SOMETHING STUPID- Robbie Williams & Nicole Kidman (110,000)
2- HOW WONDERFUL YOU ARE- Gordon Haskell (86,000)
3- GOTTA GET THRU THIS- Daniel Bedingfield (73,000)
4- MURDER ON THE DANCEFLOOR- Sophie Ellis Bextor (49,000)
5- HANDBAGS & GLADRAGS- Stereophonics (24,000)
6- HAVE YOU EVER- S Club 7 (24,000)
7- WILL I- Ian Van Dahl (24,000)
8- LATELY- Samantha Mumba (24,000)
9- I BELIEVE IN CHRISTMAS- Tweenies (22,000)
10- COUNTRY ROADS- Hermes House Band (21,000)


Do you actually like dance music?

 

Why did you take out the Cuban Boys - Alex was right about Artful Dodger and William Orbit being awful, but CvsI was a great, stupid record.

Oh and the 2001 race is the worst in living memory.
Why did you take out the Cuban Boys - Alex was right about Artful Dodger and William Orbit being awful, but CvsI was a great, stupid record.

 

 

I chose the other two because they were strong examples of genres that were popular at the time. CvsI wasn't.

I liked this xmas no1, it felt quite xmassy for some reason and there was 2 other xmas songs in the top 10 with the tweenies and S Club 7s xmassy pop song .

 

Was Something Stupid available on the album he was no1 with at the time...this may have affected sales?

That chart is abysmal for sales and quality. :manson:

 

The only songs that I like in that Top 10 are Handbags And Gladrags and Have You Ever.

1- SOMETHING STUPID- Robbie Williams & Nicole Kidman (110,000)

 

3- GOTTA GET THRU THIS- Daniel Bedingfield (73,000)

4- MURDER ON THE DANCEFLOOR- Sophie Ellis Bextor (49,000)

5- HANDBAGS & GLADRAGS- Stereophonics (24,000)

6- HAVE YOU EVER- S Club 7 (24,000)

7- WILL I- Ian Van Dahl (24,000)

 

10- COUNTRY ROADS- Hermes House Band (21,000)

These are all good - particularly numbers 3,4,5 and 7 :D

 

2001 was a great year for chart music imo.

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GEZZA’S EIGHTH CHART OF CHRISTMAS- 1986

http://assets.rollingstone.com/assets/images/music/lists/100-greatest-singers-of-all-time/306x306/jackie-wilson.jpg

Another 80s Christmas chart that must have been VERY close indeed (though not the tightest!) was that of 1986. Frontrunners were The Housemartins whose accapella version of Isley-Jasper-Isley’s “Caravan of Love” had raced up the chart 23-3-1 in the weeks leading up to Christmas and looked likely to be that year’s festive No 1, more so because other anticipated challengers, most notably Madonna who had reached the top with her previous two releases, were underperforming.

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02420/housemartins_2420374b.jpg

To be exact VERY early Xmas favourite was a certain Anthony Hopkins (yes the same Anthony Hopkins of “Silence of The Lambs” fame) which eventually limped in at No 75 that year showing just how wrong the bookies can get it!



So that was all a done deal then- right? Well not quite because suddenly the clay animation video for Jackie Wilson’s re-issued “Reet Petite” caught public attention and made a late surge progressing 63-40-14-2 and during the week of the Christmas chart both the Housemartins and Jackie Wilson increased their sales but, in perhaps a surge of buying influenced by nostalgia, Wilson increased his sales from 79k to 135k whilst The Housemartins went from 81k to 119k. There is no doubt that COL had a more festive appeal but perhaps again the sales period played its part, this year covering 15-20th so not covering the days when it would have appealed more, the split in the Christmas week meaning that the following week COL would all likelihood be a midweek No 1 only to see its sales collapse post Christmas and allow RP to retain the top slot.

1- REET PETITE (THE SWEETEST GIRL IN TOWN)- Jackie Wilson (135,000)
2- CARAVAN OF LOVE- The Housemartins (119,000)
3- THE FINAL COUNTDOWN- Europe (87,000)
4- OPEN YOUR HEART- Madonna (64,000)
5- SOMETIMES- Erasure (58,000)
6- THE RAIN- Oran “Juice” Jones (57,000)
7- CRY WOLF- A-Ha! (53,000)
8- IS THIS LOVE?- Alison Moyet (48,000)
9- SHAKE YOU DOWN- Gregory Abbott (46,000)
10- LIVIN ON A PRAYER- Bon Jovi (41,000)

Why was Jackie Wilson re-issued?

 

Not a classic xmas chart at all - it was like a years break after loads of xmas hits in the previous 5 years which set up today xmas playlists lol. We would have plenty of more in 87,88,89,90 and 94 though!!

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Why was Jackie Wilson re-issued?

 

Not a classic xmas chart at all - it was like a years break after loads of xmas hits in the previous 5 years which set up today xmas playlists lol. We would have plenty of more in 87,88,89,90 and 94 though!!

The clay animation video was then featured on a programme called "Arena" on BBC2 and generated demand so they re-issued.

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