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Tbh there was many slightly odd or wrong things in it though. They said the Spice Girls 'Goodbye' was their last single iirc
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Tbh there was many slightly odd or wrong things in it though. They said the Spice Girls 'Goodbye' was their last single iirc

 

Yeah, they said that as well. It seems that it's not possible to not make a few mistakes when you're making a documentary!

They said the Spice Girls 'Goodbye' was their last single iirc

They might have meant last Christmas number one or last single of the decade. Although tbf, I think we all wish Goodbye was their last single! :D

They might have meant last Christmas number one or last single of the decade. Although tbf, I think we all wish Goodbye was their last single! :D

 

What you cray! Holler is still better than 90% of songs released since it came out :wub:

Why did they miss out 2003? One of the best Xmas battles for no.1 IMO Gary Jules vs The Darkness. The Darkness led all week and thought they had it in the bag then Gary Jules pipped them to the post with Saturday sales. I remember being shocked on the Sunday chart show that they had made no.1!

Interesting to note the ones they completely ignored

1953 Frankie Laine - I Believe

1954 Winifred Atwell - Let's Have Another Party

1956 Johnny Ray - Just Walkin' In The Rain

1958 Conway Twitty - It's Only Make Believe

1959 Emile Ford and the Checkmates - What Do You Want To Make Those Eyes At Me For

1960 Cliff Richard and the Shadows - I Love You

1961 Danny Williams - Moon River

1962 Elvis Presley - Return To Sender

1966 Tom Jones - Green Green Grass Of Home

1970 Dave Edmund's Rockpile - I Hear You Knockin'

1971 Benny Hill - Ernie The Fastest Milkman In The West

1972 Little Jimmy Osmond - Long Haired Lover From Liverpool

1975 Queen - Bohemian Rhapsody

1977 Wings - Mull Of Kintyre/Girls' School

1979 Pink Floyd - Another Brick In The Wall Pt 2

1980 St. Winifred's School Choir - There's No One Quite Like Grandma

1983 Flying Pickets - Only You

1986 Jackie Wilson - Reet Petite

1987 Pet Shop Boys - Always On Your Mind

1989 Band Aid II - Do They Know It's Christmas

1991 Queen - Bohemian Rhapsody

1999 Westlife - I Have A Dream/Seasons In The Sun

2002 Robbie Williams and Nicole Kidman - Something Stupid

2003 Gary Jules and Michael Andres - Mad World

2004 Band Aid 20 - Do They Know It's Christmas?

2010 Matt Cardle - When We Collide

 

So they skip two of the biggest sellers of all time, and some of the biggest cheese. Personally I would have thought that Winifred would have been highlighted as supplying the first novelty xmas number one (or at least 'fun' xmas number one) and far from the lights going out in the early seventies I'd say that those three skipped #1s were pretty colouful, I think 1970 was a very close battle with MacGuinness Flint and I really couldn't believe they skipped Benny Hill's epic. I can however understand them skipping some early 60s and later-mid eighties #1s as they are slightly more debatable due to the chart and anouncement dates for the later dates and of course the multiple magazines for the late fifties and early sixties. Someone questioned the bit about Spice Girls - Goodbye, they said they used the xmas #1 to bid us farewell, well I think at the time it *was* the last single as they hadn't expected at that point to do a third album or another single a couple of years later, certainly that's how I remember it as a fan at the time anyway.

Interesting to note the ones they completely ignored

1953 Frankie Laine - I Believe

1954 Winifred Atwell - Let's Have Another Party

1956 Johnny Ray - Just Walkin' In The Rain

1958 Conway Twitty - It's Only Make Believe

1959 Emile Ford and the Checkmates - What Do You Want To Make Those Eyes At Me For

1960 Cliff Richard and the Shadows - I Love You

1961 Danny Williams - Moon River

1962 Elvis Presley - Return To Sender

1966 Tom Jones - Green Green Grass Of Home

1970 Dave Edmund's Rockpile - I Hear You Knockin'

1971 Benny Hill - Ernie The Fastest Milkman In The West

1972 Little Jimmy Osmond - Long Haired Lover From Liverpool

1975 Queen - Bohemian Rhapsody

1977 Wings - Mull Of Kintyre/Girls' School

1979 Pink Floyd - Another Brick In The Wall Pt 2

1980 St. Winifred's School Choir - There's No One Quite Like Grandma

1983 Flying Pickets - Only You

1986 Jackie Wilson - Reet Petite

1987 Pet Shop Boys - Always On Your Mind

1989 Band Aid II - Do They Know It's Christmas

1991 Queen - Bohemian Rhapsody

1999 Westlife - I Have A Dream/Seasons In The Sun

2002 Robbie Williams and Nicole Kidman - Something Stupid

2003 Gary Jules and Michael Andres - Mad World

2004 Band Aid 20 - Do They Know It's Christmas?

2010 Matt Cardle - When We Collide

 

So they skip two of the biggest sellers of all time, and some of the biggest cheese. Personally I would have thought that Winifred would have been highlighted as supplying the first novelty xmas number one (or at least 'fun' xmas number one) and far from the lights going out in the early seventies I'd say that those three skipped #1s were pretty colouful, I think 1970 was a very close battle with MacGuinness Flint and I really couldn't believe they skipped Benny Hill's epic. I can however understand them skipping some early 60s and later-mid eighties #1s as they are slightly more debatable due to the chart and anouncement dates for the later dates and of course the multiple magazines for the late fifties and early sixties. Someone questioned the bit about Spice Girls - Goodbye, they said they used the xmas #1 to bid us farewell, well I think at the time it *was* the last single as they hadn't expected at that point to do a third album or another single a couple of years later, certainly that's how I remember it as a fan at the time anyway.

 

 

They had always planned to do a 3rd album and it was supposed to be released in 1999. In their September 1998 Wembley gig they confirmed they had a single coming out at Xmas and an album the following year. Due to pregnancies and solo careers the 3rd album got pushed back to 2000. They had worked on plenty of songs by the end of 1999 though as they did a 10 date 'Xmas in Spice world' UK tour where they performed 3 songs from their next album, Holler, Right back at ya and W.O.M.A.N, woman never made it onto the final track listing of the 3rd album though.

 

Goodbye doesn't/didn't mean goodbye to their fans it means goodbye to Geri 'Goodbye my friend, I know you're gone you said you're gone but I can still feel you here'.

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Goodbye doesn't/didn't mean goodbye to their fans it means goodbye to Geri 'Goodbye my friend, I know you're gone you said you're gone but I can still feel you here'.

It wasn't what they meant when they were writing it though, as Geri was still in the band when it was wrote. I guess it just seemed fitting to release it when she did leave.

I do wish they'd covered a few more years, like St Winifreds, at least mentioning the fact BoRhap was Christmas number 1 twice, 1999 & 2003 (very surprised about that one, if any Christmas chart race is notable in the 21st Century, its that one and its not like we usually get Christmas number 1s as morbid as that.)
To be fair, they only had an hour, so they would of had miss out some obvious ones. Perhaps if the show was aired a little earlier, an hour and a half slot would be better.
I think most of those omissions are fair enough given it was only an hour long but 'Bohemian Rhapsody' getting Christmas #1 twice and not even getting a mention is a little bit odd.

Some of those No.1's bring back memories and I think to myself, they don't make 'em like they used to

Maybe it's just nostalgia, coz when I've checked out TOTP 1977 on TV, half the songs, I think, "What's this?"

It wasn't what they meant when they were writing it though, as Geri was still in the band when it was wrote. I guess it just seemed fitting to release it when she did leave.

 

No Geri starting writing a song called goodbye with the girls, left and they completely reworked it hence she has no writing credits on it.

Perhaps they just wanted to take the focus away from the most successful singles of all time. I mean, do people really need to hear 'Bohemian Rhapsody' again? It's being performed on Strictly Come Dancing so if you need a bit of "is this the real life..." in your daily life then watch tonight.

 

Also why would anyone want to be reminded of Westlife's Xmas #1? :manson: Band Aid were mentioned once (1984) so why also focus on the two lesser versions too?

 

I also think some of the other tracks (Always On Your Mind, Reet Petite, Another Brick In The Wall Pt 2) weren't mentioned because they're not exactly classic Xmas #1 hits? You could say 'When You Believe' wasn't but just shows how much force The X Factor has when there is no competition for the no. 1 spot.

I also think some of the other tracks (Always On Your Mind, Reet Petite, Another Brick In The Wall Pt 2) weren't mentioned because they're not exactly classic Xmas #1 hits?

I agree. They may be classic songs, but who remembers them for being Christmas Number One?

Don't get me wrong, I wasn't criticising the programme, it was good, I just thought 2003 was a bit of an odd emission.

 

Also why would anyone want to be reminded of Westlife's Xmas #1? :manson: Band Aid were mentioned once (1984) so why also focus on the two lesser versions too?

 

Merely for the fact that I recall that it was quite an interesting chart at that time and I quite liked their cover of I Have a Dream

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Don't get me wrong, I wasn't criticising the programme, it was good, I just thought 2003 was a bit of an odd emission.

 

Merely for the fact that I recall that it was quite an interesting chart at that time and I quite liked their cover of I Have a Dream

 

Me too. :blush:

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