Anyway.....

Back to business, hows things looking the top end of the charts?

Maybe "Blurred Lines" the song will sell more than "Poker Face" - but i can definitely not see Robin Thicke sell as many albums as Lady Gaga did with "The Fame". So maybe in 10 years probably more people will own "PF" than "BL" because they got the album instead of the single. However, this discusion is ridiculous. :rolleyes:

We don't even have to look at the charts, we can just use our memories to determine which song was bigger, and it's pretty obvious. Poker Face was a hit more like Let Her Go by Passenger, undeniably sold bucket-loads, but was just kind of "there".

Poker Face may have been a post-album single, but Robin Thicke hasn't gone around pretending he's a hermaphrodite to get more sales, so I'd say they're even.

 

Just kinda there? :S

 

It was the second biggest song of the year after I Gotta a Feeling. Whilst it WAS overshadowed, it was massive, hugely cultural, referenced even in Eastenders.

 

And she never pretended to be one - I always thought it was certain sections of the media not liking a strong, self-empowered female with complete control over her sexuality and making a massive deal over one photo as a way to challenge this.

 

Or maybe that's just me overanalaysing :P .

Poker Face wasn't anywhere near as big as Blurred Lines was, there's no doubt about that, but its probably worth waiting for what Robin Thicke comes up with next before starting to brag. Consistency with big hits is far better than one massive seller and nothing else of note.

Edited August 13, 201311 yr by Chez Wombat

I'm sorry, Eric, this is coming from a non Gaga fan but your opinions on the success of her singles are completely void since you never look at it objectively. So what if other songs outsold PF, you can't diminish it's success or try to rationalise it by saying some factor other than people liking the song led to its success.

 

It's not just about sales. There's songs that sold much less than Poker Face which I would say were bigger. Look at it this way:

 

Robin Thicke is promoting Blurred Lines

Just Dance and Poker Face were promoting Lady Gaga

 

In the first half of 2009, it was Lady Gaga that was "big", not her songs. When Just Dance started blowing up, they decided to take Akon off as a featured artist since they didn't want him to take focus off Lady Gaga, and I think that says it all. Everything at the time was about making Lady Gaga into a star. The fact that her label got Galaxy FM to actually playlist her acoustic version of Poker Face (played on a piano) was probably the most desperate thing I've ever seen. Like they were desperate to get the point across to the public that she's actually talented, can sing live and play an instrument. Again, that wasn't to promote Poker Face, that stunt was to promote Lady Gaga.

 

And she never pretended to be one - I always thought it was certain sections of the media not liking a strong, self-empowered female with complete control over her sexuality and making a massive deal over one photo as a way to challenge this.

 

She did. The hermaphrodite rumours started, and instead of Lady Gaga denying them straight away, she instead just acted all mysterious and vacant in interviews, she knew full well that she would just fuel the rumours more (and hence get her more media attention, radio airplay, etc.).

 

It might seem like everybody is a bit harsh today calling everything she does as a publicity stunt, but let's be honest, she does have a history for it.

Edited August 13, 201311 yr by Eric_Blob

Poker Face wasn't anywhere near as big as Blurred Lines was, there's no doubt about that, but its probably worth waiting for what Robin Thicke comes up with next before starting to brag. Consistency with big hits is far better than one massive seller and nothing else of note.

 

Carly Rae for example :cry:

 

A label wanting one of its artists to successful. OUTRAGE.

Just kinda there? :S

 

It was the second biggest song of the year after I Gotta a Feeling. Whilst it WAS overshadowed, it was massive, hugely cultural, referenced even in Eastenders.

 

And she never pretended to be one - I always thought it was certain sections of the media not liking a strong, self-empowered female with complete control over her sexuality and making a massive deal over one photo as a way to challenge this.

 

Or maybe that's just me overanalaysing :P .

Who mentioned it in Eastenders? Dot Cotton? :lol:

 

 

The hermaphrodite rumours started, and instead of Lady Gaga denying them straight away, she instead just acted all mysterious and vacant in interviews, she knew full well that she would just fuel the rumours more (and hence get her more media attention, radio airplay, etc.).

 

It might seem like everybody is a bit harsh today calling everything she does as a publicity stunt, but let's be honest, she does have a history for it.

I remember that there were rumours that Ciara had a willy as well but it must have just been made up by the media.

Edited August 13, 201311 yr by Money Hungry £££

I really hope Ellie can manage to stay ahead officially, she's had 3 extra days of sales, it might happen!

It was mentioned in Miranda too.

Maybe "Blurred Lines" the song will sell more than "Poker Face" - but i can definitely not see Robin Thicke sell as many albums as Lady Gaga did with "The Fame". So maybe in 10 years probably more people will own "PF" than "BL" because they got the album instead of the single. However, this discusion is ridiculous. :rolleyes:

 

More people own Lady Gaga's 'Money Honey' than 'Blurred Lines' if you're using that logic. It's a discussion of which is a bigger hit *single*, album sales don't come into it.

 

Poker Face wasn't anywhere near as big as Blurred Lines was, there's no doubt about that, but its probably worth waiting for what Robin Thicke comes up with next before starting to brag. Consistency with big hits is far better than one massive seller and nothing else of note.

 

This is true as well, Robin Thicke is more or less a one hit wonder and it's obvious just from looking at album sales and, well, the fact she has more than one hit that Gaga is a much bigger artist and that's more important than the fact she doesn't have a hit as big as 'Blurred Lines' :P

No matter what 'adjustment' you make, there is no possible way you can seriously say 'Poker Face' is as big a hit as 'Blurred Lines' when it's been outsold already in less than 3 months. Sales haven't increased THAT much. (The 'post-album single' argument is more relevant perhaps but by the time 'Blurred Lines' is reduced to trickle sales it's going to be far enough ahead of 'Poker Face' to account for people who bought the album instead of just the song unless you want to be deluded and say it lost out on hundreds of thousands of sales from that).

 

I'm not even saying 'Poker Face' wasn't massive (it was the highest selling single of 2009 after all, ignoring the fact 'I Gotta Feeling' overtook it shortly afterwards), but it's just being deluded to deny 'Blurred Lines' is much bigger.

 

I think it's silly to try and take album sales completely out of the equation though. It's true that in terms purely of singles sales 'Blurred Lines' is ahead of 'Poker Face' (and I agree with you that that would still be the case even if you adjusted for sales being lower in '09), but I don't think you can ignore the fact that nearly 3m people bought the album with PF on, a large number of those purchases coming as a result of 'Poker Face'. I mean, essentially, we're talking about people who loved the song so much and made them love the artist so much that they decided to go straight to buying the album. Bearing that in mind, as well as what it "felt" like (always subjective obviously), I would say 'Poker Face' was bigger at it's peak than 'Blurred Lines' is/was.

 

 

(Which is regarded as more of a classic in the long run is a different matter though, because to me it doesn't feel like 'Poker Face' or really Gaga's stuff from 2009 in general has stood the test of time all that well.)

Edited August 13, 201311 yr by Danny

It's not just about sales. There's songs that sold much less than Poker Face which I would say were bigger. Look at it this way:

 

Robin Thicke is promoting Blurred Lines

Just Dance and Poker Face were promoting Lady Gaga

 

In the first half of 2009, it was Lady Gaga that was "big", not her songs. When Just Dance started blowing up, they decided to take Akon off as a featured artist since they didn't want him to take focus off Lady Gaga, and I think that says it all. Everything at the time was about making Lady Gaga into a star. The fact that her label got Galaxy FM to actually playlist her acoustic version of Poker Face (played on a piano) was probably the most desperate thing I've ever seen. Like they were desperate to get the point across to the public that she's actually talented, can sing live and play an instrument. Again, that wasn't to promote Poker Face, that stunt was to promote Lady Gaga.

She did. The hermaphrodite rumours started, and instead of Lady Gaga denying them straight away, she instead just acted all mysterious and vacant in interviews, she knew full well that she would just fuel the rumours more (and hence get her more media attention, radio airplay, etc.).

 

It might seem like everybody is a bit harsh today calling everything she does as a publicity stunt, but let's be honest, she does have a history for it.

Dear god, she's a POP STAR. She's supposed to be an attention seeker.

More people own Lady Gaga's 'Money Honey' than 'Blurred Lines' if you're using that logic. It's a discussion of which is a bigger hit *single*, album sales don't come into it.

 

Well of course more people are just dowloading one song if the rest of the album is not good. :P So these artists can be proud because they sold loads of singles, while no one wants their album :lol:

 

As i said this whole discussion does not make any sense at all, but well, this whole thread has become some sort of joke today. :dance: :cry:

 

Bloody hell, all we need is Lady GaGa to bring out the true demon in Eric. :manson:

 

Do you not get bored of trying to pedal the same argument all the time? You've been doing it for years now...

Who mentioned it in Eastenders? Dot Cotton? :lol:

I remember that there were rumours that Ciara had a willy as well but it must have just been made up by the media.

 

Actually it was Dot Cotton's friend! :lol: Clara? Can't remember her name.

 

Agreed about GaGa's 2009 music not standing the test of time, but at the *time* it was great and refreshing.

Edited August 13, 201311 yr by Michael!

Regardless of sales, I think it is easily looking like 'Blurred Lines' will be bigger than 'Poker Face' in general. 'Poker Face' doesn't really stand out in her discography, let alone in 2009 music, while 'Blurred Lines' will always be "the Robin Thicke hit" (unless he somehow tops it) which will ensure that it gets played far more in the long-term future than one of many hits from another artist. In short, if 'Poker Face' had been GaGa's *only* big hit, then it'd probably be played far more these days on radio/music channels/in clubs but it has been overshadowed by her more recent hits (well...'Bad Romance').

I won't be happy if Ellie doesn't get her well deserved number 1 this week, I hope she gets enough sales and Gaga doesn't overtake her!

11. Robin Thicke - Blurred Lines (feat. T.I. & Pharrell) 0.1985

 

12. John Newman - Love Me Again 0.1940

 

13. Drake - Hold On, We're Going Home (feat. Majid Jordan) 0.1932

 

Drake heading for #11, Robin Thicke heading for #13? :o

It was mentioned in Miranda too.

 

 

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