I'll be honest and say I'm a little bit hypocritical...but I do think the price discounts do have a negative impact, on a number

 

I don't like the impact the 59p price reduction has on the charts allowing old, over exposed tracks climbing back into the chart! I agree with Mart!n that there should be a seperate chart or that they should not be allowed to chart

 

However, on the other hand I was pleased to see Ghetto Superstar back in the chart and One Republic getting to number 2 (possibly the highest peak for a price reduction download??) so it does have its bonuses

 

I preferred iTunes when all tracks were 79p to download :lol:

But as I posted at the time, the 59p reduction is not across all platforms so you can't exclude songs based on a single outlet

 

ISTM that's the clinching argument against a separate chart.

 

What do you do if iTunes reduced a song from 99p to 79p, but another site has been selling it at 79p all along...

I'm openly hypocritical but I suppose I would be happy with any song returning ONCE to the Top 40. After that, when a song re-enters repeatedly it becomes incredibly annoying. The old songs that reappear these days, mostly tend to be the same old songs. I don't think there should be any restrictions though as our chart is representing the top selling songs of that week, no matter the reasons of why it is selling.

I'm openly hypocritical but I suppose I would be happy with any song returning ONCE to the Top 40. After that, when a song re-enters repeatedly it becomes incredibly annoying. The old songs that reappear these days, mostly tend to be the same old songs. I don't think there should be any restrictions though as our chart is representing the top selling songs of that week, no matter the reasons of why it is selling.

Apart, of course, from Fairytale Of New York which I will be happy to see back in the chart every year for the rest of my days. OTOH, I would also be happy if All I Want For Christmas Is You never sells another copy.

Personally I hate old songs clogging up the charts. I know it's only fair that a chart should accurately represent what people are buying etc. but all the old songs make the chart a bit stale and boring. It also makes it that little bit harder for new artists to be recognised, as they tend to chart lower down due to older songs above them.

 

I don't know what the solution would be though, do you just disqualify older songs, or put older songs in a separate chart? I think a rule at least disqualifying 59p songs from the main chart would be logical and fair, and would be a good start.

 

 

I'm happy more times than I'm not about it, if its a song I haven't seen in the charts for a long time even if it did already have its time, I'm happy about it (see: Dancing In The Moonlight). Plus, some songs are really overdue a big boost which they unjustly didn't get at time, like Iris, One Day Like This & Ordinary People.

 

HOWEVER I'm not normally happy when a song that has re-entered many times before and has truly had its time denies a newer song a placing, of course, I am hypocritical like others - if Chasing Cars kept out the next Neon Jungle single, I'd be thrilled, but generally when songs like Don't You Worry Child & A Thousand Years deny Reflektor and The Mother We Share of a top 40 place, then its generally annoying.

Edited September 16, 201311 yr by Chez Wombat

they should do a recurrent chart rules for singles like in the US charts, that way it prevents old songs from re-charting making the top 40 look outdated , irrelevant & boring.. songs over 1 year should be non-eligible to chart on the main Official chart, while a separate chart would be established in order to includes all songs: old & new....

 

most people are sick of seeing Chasing Cars, Run, Listen, Gold Digger, Skinny Love and Paradise 100 years after their release....

My view is that if they want to keep the chart a sales chart, then they have to include the older songs, whatever the circumstance. If a song you love has been kept out of the top 40 through an older song, it's because more people wanted to buy it that particular week and it's the only democratic way to do it.

They could also not play 59p song that re-emter the top 40 which i would actually be in favour of. But of course if the old song properly re establishes itself in the top 40 and has renewed genuine appeal it should be played!

Having a seperate 59p chart/older songs chart is risky not only for that it doesn't reflect buying tastes but what if one of those songs went to number 1? It would be rather silly to just discount it. (Also people are aware NEW songs are made 59p as well right?)

Having a seperate 59p chart/older songs chart is risky not only for that it doesn't reflect buying tastes but what if one of those songs went to number 1? It would be rather silly to just discount it. (Also people are aware NEW songs are made 59p as well right?)

New songs should be included in the main chart whatever the price. Either that or maybe new songs shouldn't be allowed to be reduced to 59p until they have been out a certain number of weeks or something? I dunno, this whole debate is just one big grey area, it's hard to come up with anything that would actually be completely sensible!

Nobody knows what proportion of a song from iTunes were only made because of the price reduction. It would be ridiculous to assume that none of the sales would have happened if the song had remained on sale at full price.

Or where do you draw the line?

 

If Amazon is selling a track for say 60p, should that be excluded? How about 65p?, 69p?

I dont mind it if old songs re chart. Its not like its a new thing. Old songs were always being re issued and being hits again long before downloads.

I like them when they're songs I like, but regardless of that, I don't feel they should be excluded, the chart represents the most bought songs of the week for WHATEVER reason, price reductions and talent shows included, so it's only right that they're included IMO.

(I still bear a grudge over Will Smith 'Summertime' and Pras 'Ghetto Supastar')

 

This.

 

SO annoying. Just because it's summertime doesn't mean a song entitled that very thing should re-enter the charts.

 

But still, apart from that, I really don't mind when songs like Let's Get Ready to Rhumble or Iris or what-not return to the chart.

 

I think that it is great that Christina Perri has returned to the chart and I hope songs like that return.

Hate it. Although was strangely fine about it when Elbow and Kate Bush both went top 10. Not at all fickle.

I don't mind one little bit. If the old song sells more than a new song then fair enough. There's no need to start excluding songs based on age and it's often nice when I do listen to the chart to hear something that I might not have heard for a long time.

 

Completely sales-based charts are the best way to do it. It's only ever going to be a few positions difference further down for new songs that get beaten and it's not going to stop new talent coming through at the current level of saturation. It's one or two making the top 40 each week at most, that's nothing.

I agree that completely sales based charts are best. Excluding stuff leads to far more injustice - I think.