Posted September 18, 201311 yr Ok, so the nomination process is complete and 379 different tracks were mentioned, which is of course rather a lot but as I promised we would whittle them down and confront the issue of what is 'Rock or not'. A number of tracks received 3 or more nominations (even though only 1 was necessary for inclusion) so for that they are given an automatic bye into the next round. The tracks are... EVANESCENCE - BRING ME TO LIFE GREEN DAY - WAKE ME UP WHEN SEPTEMBER ENDS LED ZEPPELIN - STAIRWAY TO HEAVEN 30 SECONDS TO MARS - KINGS AND QUEENS QUEEN - BOHEMIAN RHAPSODY PINK FLOYD - ANOTHER BRICK IN THE WALL PART 2 NIRVANA - SMELLS LIKE TEEN SPIRIT NINE INCH NAILS - HURT MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE - WELCOME TO THE BLACK PARADE LINKIN PARK - IN THE END EVANESCENCE - MY IMMORTAL MUSE - KNIGHTS OF CYDONIA GREEN DAY – BOULEVARD LINKIN PARK - NUMB Nothing too contentious there (maybe Hurt). From the list below you may all choose 20 tracks that you feel do not fit the criteria of Rock/Punk/Metal. Maybe you feel they are too Indie or Dance or Electronic. You can choose any. However, I will exercise a certain level of veto - For example Led Zeppelin are clearly a Rock band as are all the tracks nominated for them so any suggestions that they are not Rock will be treated accordingly. Even if you didn't particpate in the first round you may take part in the cull. 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LENNY KRAVITZ - FLY LIMP BIZKIT - EAT YOU ALIVE LINKIN PARK - BLEED IT OUT LINKIN PARK - BREAKING THE HABIT LINKIN PARK - CRAWLING LINKIN PARK - ONE STEP CLOSER LINKIN PARK - WHAT I'VE DONE LINKIN PARK - PTS OF ATHRTY LYNYRD SKYNYRD - SWEET HOME ALABAMA MAILYN MANSON - HEART SHAPED GLASSES MANDO DIAO - DANCE WITH SOMEBODY MANIC STREET PREACHERS - FASTER MANIC STREET PREACHERS - MOTORCYCLE EMPTINESS MANIC STREET PREACHERS - IF YOU TOLERATE THIS ... 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THE CULT - SHE SELLS SANCTUARY THE CURE - JUST LIKE HEAVEN THE DARKNESS - I BELIEVE IN A THING CALLED LOVE THE GASLIGHT ANTHEM - 45 THE HORRORS - SEA WITHIN A SEA THE JAM - GOING UNDERGROUND THE JAM - TOWN CALLED MALICE THE KILLERS - SOMEBODY TOLD ME THE OFFSPRING - BAD HABIT THE OFFSPRING - ORIGINAL PRANKSTER THE OFFSPRING - PAY THE MAN THE OFFSPRING - PRETTY FLY THE OFFSPRING - THE KIDS AREN'T ALRIGHT THE POLICE - EVERY BREATH YOU TAKE THE SISTERS OF MERCY - TEMPLE OF LOVE THE STOOGES - SEARCH AND DESTROY THE STRANGLERS - NO MORE HEROES THE UNDERTONES - TEENAGE KICKS THE WHO - BABA O'RILEY THE WHO - WON'T GET FOOLED AGAIN THE BEATLES - LET IT BE THE BEATLES - HEY JUDE THEORY OF A DEADMAN - BAD GIRLFRIEND THERAPY? - SCREAMAGER THIN LIZZY - THE BOYS ARE BACK IN TOWN THIRTEEN SENSES - THRU THE GLASS THREE TRAPPED TIGERS - CRAMM THREE TRAPPED TIGERS - RESET TOTO - AFRICA TRAPT - HEADSTRONG TUBELORD - NIGHT OF THE PENCILS TV ON THE RADIO - DANCING CHOOSE TV ON THE RADIO - WOLF LIKE ME TWIN ATLANTIC - FREE TWISTED SISTER - WE'RE NOT GONNA TAKE IT U2 - BEAUTIFUL DAY U2 - ONE U2 - THE FLY U2 - WITH OR WITHOUT YOU VALRAVN - KELLING VELVET REVOLVER - FALL TO PIECES VIDEO VILLAIN - PARANOIA WHEATUS - TEENAGE DIRTBAG WHITE STRIPES - SEVEN NATION ARMY WHITE STRIPES - BLUE ORCHID WHITE STRIPES - FELL IN LOVE WITH A GIRL WHITE STRIPES - ICKY THUMP WHITE STRIPES - MY DOORBELL WHITESNAKE - HERE I GO AGAIN WITHIN TEMPTATION - MEMORIES WITHIN TEMPTATION - SHOT IN THE DARK WITHIN TEMPTATION - UTOPIA WITHIN TEMPTATION - WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WOLFMOTHER - JOKER AND THE THIEF WOLFMOTHER - WOMAN YELLOWCARD - OCEAN AVENUE FREE - WISHING WELL SIOUXSIE AND THE BANSHEES - CITIES IN DUST DEEP PURPLE - FIREBALL THE STRANGLERS - NICE 'N SLEAZY THIN LIZZY - DON'T BELIEVE A WORD AC/DC - TOUCH TOO MUCH
September 18, 201311 yr Author Please note I have changed the number you can nominate for culling to 20. Tracks that get a predefined (yet top secret) number of nominations are gone
September 18, 201311 yr Author 65 DAYSOFSTATIC - DANCE DANCE DANCE 65 DAYSOFSTATIC - RADIO PROTECTOR APHEX TWIN - COME TO DADDY BATTLES - ATLAS DOVES - BLACK AND WHITE TOWN DOVES - THERE GOES THE FEAR ELUVEITIE - OMNOS ERRORS - TUSK f*** BUTTONS - OLYMPIANS f*** BUTTONS - STALKER JOHNNY FOREIGNER - WHO NEEDS COMMENT BOXES WHEN KNIVES KELLY CLARKSON - SOBER OASIS - CHAMPAGNE SUPERNOVA OASIS - LIVE FOREVER OASIS - WONDERWALL SIGUR ROS - DAUOALAGIO THE BEATLES - LET IT BE THE BEATLES - HEY JUDE THREE TRAPPED TIGERS - CRAMM THREE TRAPPED TIGERS - RESET Apologes to anyone who nominated the above but for me the're either too Indie, Electronic, or even Pop and frankly I could probably have chosen 50 tracks.
September 18, 201311 yr I'm feeling in a fairly lenient mood, these are the only ones that jumped out. APHEX TWIN - COME TO DADDY KELLY CLARKSON - SOBER PARAMORE - THE ONLY EXCEPTION SIGUR ROS - DAUOALAGIO THE HORRORS - SEA WITHIN A SEA
September 19, 201311 yr 3 DOORS DOWN - HERE WITHOUT YOU 65 DAYSOFSTATIC - DANCE DANCE DANCE 65 DAYSOFSTATIC - RADIO PROTECTOR ARCTIC MONKEYS - BRIANSTORM ARCTIC MONKEYS - FLUORESCENT ADOLESCENT BIFFY CLYRO - MANY OF HORROR FALL OUT BOY - THIS AIN'T A SCENE KELLY CLARKSON - SOBER KINGS OF LEON - SEX ON FIRE MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE - TEENAGERS THE KILLERS - SOMEBODY TOLD ME THE BEATLES - LET IT BE THE BEATLES - HEY JUDE TOTO - AFRICA Haven't heard like so many of the nominated ones though. And I might've voted for Teenagers previously OOPS
September 19, 201311 yr Kelly Clarkson - Sober The Beatles - Hey Jude The Beatles - Let It Be (As much as I love The Beatles, I don't think they fit into what we're doing here) Oasis - Wonderwall White Stripes - Icky Thump White Stripes - My Doorbell U2 - One T Rex - I Love To Boogie
September 19, 201311 yr ARCTIC MONKEYS - FLUORESCENT ADOLESCENT ARCTIC MONKEYS - I BET YOU LOOK GOOD ON THE DANCEFLOOR B>E>A>K - KEHAAR KASABIAN - FIRE KELLY CLARKSON - SOBER KIDS IN GLASS HOUSES - MATTERS AT ALL OASIS - THE IMPORTANCE OF BEING IDLE OASIS - WONDERWALL SIGUR ROS - DAUOALAGIO THE KILLERS - SOMEBODY TOLD ME THE BEATLES - LET IT BE THE BEATLES - HEY JUDE TOTO - AFRICA I *personally* think the above don't really fall into this category (from what I've heard anyway). I don't wanna exclude entire artists, but Kasabian/Arctics/Oasis all fall more under 'indie/alternative' than rock/metal so I'm more selective with them. I don't think the Killers should be here at all though, whatever the song. (I'm aware I voted for a few but partly because I saw others doing it :ph34r: [/sheep] Edited September 19, 201311 yr by Chez Wombat
September 21, 201311 yr Author Perhaps that should be the rate! How "rock" are these songs? Motorhead would clearly win if that were the case. When are we gonna get your 20 least Rock list. I'm looking forward to that
September 21, 201311 yr APHEX TWIN - COME TO DADDY BABYLON ZOO - SPACEMAN BATTLES - ATLAS DOVES - BLACK AND WHITE TOWN DOVES - THERE GOES THE FEAR KELLY CLARKSON - SOBER KINGS OF LEON - USE SOMEBODY MANIC STREET PREACHERS - IF YOU TOLERATE THIS ... OASIS - CHAMPAGNE SUPERNOVA OASIS - DON'T LOOK BACK IN ANGER OASIS - LIVE FOREVER OASIS - SOME MIGHT SAY OASIS - THE IMPORTANCE OF BEING IDLE OASIS - WONDERWALL THE BEATLES - HEY JUDE THE BEATLES - LET IT BE THE CURE - JUST LIKE HEAVEN THE KILLERS - SOMEBODY TOLD ME TOTO - AFRICA U2 - ONE Edited September 22, 201311 yr by AnthonyT
September 22, 201311 yr I Don't Want To Miss A Thing - Not rock just pussyshit And I'm kicking myself for not nominating. Totally forgot about it.
September 22, 201311 yr I find it very difficult to chose one of these 21 songs to let through. aphex. too good.
September 22, 201311 yr Hmmmmmm....... You know, I just went with the memory of the piano-line reminding me of Keane. When I went back to it it is probably heavy enough to be rock. I've removed it. List finalized. Edited September 22, 201311 yr by AnthonyT
October 8, 201311 yr The Beatles would fit if I'd got round to nominating Helter Skelter, T.Rex for 20th century boy maybe. The problem with labelling a band "indie" is that back in the day they would have been clearly labelled Rock. Killers When We Were Young is as rock as Born To Run, and that would have been called Rock at the time, just as the Beatles were (there are just better Rock-ier choices than gospel Let It Be/Hey Jude). Maybe "Metal" is the real definition, or "punk", with a clause to avoid ballads, rock or otherwise. Toto, though, well, that's actually jazz-easy-listening-MOR-rock, always was.... Hold The Line, however is definitely fab rock by any definition and should have been nominated instead.
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