November 22, 201311 yr Is it really that objectionable that the fiftieth anniversary of one of the most shocking events in world history is remembered? It's not as if most people spend their days focusing on JFK's death. As i wasn't alive it means nothing to me really The deaths of Lennon, Jacko, Senna, Elvis, Thatcher were far more significant to me and of course 9/11, Berlin Wall, Mandela's release and the Shuttle exploding Each of those is far more relevant to me than some guy taking a bullet in the skull long before i was born
November 22, 201311 yr As i wasn't alive it means nothing to me really The deaths of Lennon, Jacko, Senna, Elvis, Thatcher were far more significant to me and of course 9/11, Berlin Wall, Mandela's release and the Shuttle exploding Each of those is far more relevant to me than some guy taking a bullet in the skull long before i was born Isn't it appalling that some people dare to have a different sense of priorities from yours? There really should be a public enquiry led by a judge.
November 22, 201311 yr Yeah but like its the top trend on Twitter tonight, with all due respect to the twitter generation i would bet like 0.1% were alive when JFK died I can understand the importance to people who were alive at the time but thats it really God forbid people care about history eh?
November 22, 201311 yr You must have been devastated. My views on him have mellowed over the years He was responsible for a lot of bad things, was no gandhi But after release from jail the class and dignity he showed helped stop things from getting a lot worse and he embraced peace so the latter Mandela worthy of a lot of respect
November 22, 201311 yr Author Kennedy's funeral was attended by Prince Philip. It was thought The Queen attending may divert some attention away from the Kennedy family and also she was pregnant with Prince Edward.
November 22, 201311 yr My views on him have mellowed over the years He was responsible for a lot of bad things, was no gandhi What are your thoughts on Irgun Craig?
November 22, 201311 yr What are your thoughts on Irgun Craig? They were a terrorist organisation same way as the ANC were, am not going to condone their behaviour (Irgun) nor should the armed resistance that Mandela advocated be condoned Martin Luther King, Rosa Parks, Mahatma Gandhi bought about change through peaceful means, that is what the younger Mandela should have advocated
November 22, 201311 yr Well, it's pleasing you don't have double standards when it comes to this at least. Those figures you named also had friendly figures within their respective governments who advocated and eventually legislated for their independence. That wasn't the case in South Africa until de Klerk was forced to the table - forty years of one-party government made it almost an impossibility that change would ever be brought peacefully. Even then it was only brought about because the end of the Cold War meant there was no longer a strategic reason for the West to continue supporting the National Party government in South Africa.
November 22, 201311 yr Speaking of the HillClint - bitch better stomp it in 2016 is all I'm saying. Redemption.
November 23, 201311 yr Well, it's pleasing you don't have double standards when it comes to this at least. Those figures you named also had friendly figures within their respective governments who advocated and eventually legislated for their independence. That wasn't the case in South Africa until de Klerk was forced to the table - forty years of one-party government made it almost an impossibility that change would ever be brought peacefully. Even then it was only brought about because the end of the Cold War meant there was no longer a strategic reason for the West to continue supporting the National Party government in South Africa. Assassinating politicians or police officers or soldiers etc is fair game in a conflict but the ANC used to leave bombs in bins in cities, ordinary members of the public, black and white were at risk, when Mandela was arrested plans to bomb a courthouse and a train were found, again targetting civilians If the ANC had targetted politicians and their security forces then that would have been fine
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