She's over.

She should release EPs and retire from commercial music.

 

She's so over you keep opting to visit her forum.

She's so over you keep opting to visit her forum.

 

Leona's power!

Which is why she should retire to EPs for her fans like Alexandra Burke or Nerina Pallot do and not embarrass herself with huge flops!

 

When will she be getting dropped do we know? Do we have a date?

Ye, she should stop embarassing herself with huge flops! At least she'll have "One More Sleep" swoop in and outsell her current album campaign. :kink: I mean she's made herself relevant for many Christmas' to come, when will Alexandra?

 

She should be getting dropped off in London in a few weeks to start off more UK promotion which'll be good (MOBOs 4th November). May get the album campaign back up and running, whilst taking advantage of the increased album sales around Christmas. :)

Which is why she should retire to EPs for her fans like Alexandra Burke or Nerina Pallot do and not embarrass herself with huge flops!

 

When will she be getting dropped do we know? Do we have a date?

 

Why are you so worried about her embarrassing her? Let her do whatever she wants to do. 10 years into her career and she doesn't care what a mcdonald reject has to say.

 

Alexandra is the definition of flop. Average success with debut album coming from a show watched by millions to only sell 5k of her second album. Now she's singing someone else's songs on stage for the standard UK wage. :kink:

Why are you so worried about her embarrassing her? Let her do whatever she wants to do. 10 years into her career and she doesn't care what a mcdonald reject has to say.

 

Alexandra is the definition of flop. Average success with debut album coming from a show watched by millions to only sell 5k of her second album. Now she's singing someone else's songs on stage for the standard UK wage. :kink:

 

 

Ummm her firdt album was filled with hit after hit and this was without a monster ballad hit for the album a year MOR crowd like Leona.

 

I don't need sone grotty fanboy worahipping some shrine of Leona every night and cyring over it every time she releases a new song to tell me to shut up!

 

The sexond album was in a vvv similar situation to this,but with less yype. She left to RCA and gor no radio play, like Leona, against Syco. So laugh now but Leona might be joining her in a couple months! But qithout the power of Alex's voixe,she wln't get to sing as Whitnet.

Ummm her firdt album was filled with hit after hit and this was without a monster ballad hit for the album a year MOR crowd like Leona.

 

I don't need sone grotty fanboy worahipping some shrine of Leona every night and cyring over it every time she releases a new song to tell me to shut up!

 

The sexond album was in a vvv similar situation to this,but with less yype. She left to RCA and gor no radio play, like Leona, against Syco. So laugh now but Leona might be joining her in a couple months! But qithout the power of Alex's voixe,she wln't get to sing as Whitnet.

 

 

That album with "hit after hit" didn't translate into sales though :kink:

 

Who told you to shut up? Definitely not me.

 

Alexandra was in a way worse state than Leona, probably because of her ghetto attitude and her we-already-have-a-beyonce-nothing-new kinda talent. Coming from only 800,000 debut to 5,000 with Irrelevephant as hit is BAD. Leona didn't have a hit this era yet outsold Flop on Hold in only one week in the UK with her FIFTH album.

 

Anyway, no point in comparing second to fifth album because Echo outsold her whole career.

 

Don't think Leona will be joining miss flop on stage anytime soon. Leona can atleast invest in a decent produced album that interests labels such as Defjam and Island. The Hallelujah-not-her-song hitmaker, and only source of income, on the other hand could only afford her own bedroom and a mic to record the garbage that is Renegade.

Edited October 11, 20159 yr by Soeplepel

I'm confused as to what Alexandra Burke has to do with this and why we are dragging her with those tragic tryhard nicknames like Flop on Hold and Miss Flop.

I am kinda worried you view Alexandra's attitude and sass as "ghetto" as it really shows your ignorance. You seem to be defending Leona by dragging Alex, whilst ignoring all the signs that she is in a dangerous place careerwise.

 

Point is, Leona is a fookin flop right now, there's really no point in calling Alexandra one, as Leona spent less weeks in the top 100 than Alexandra did and only outsold her by 2k in the UK so far.

There's no point in denying that her album sales are disastrous, especially after she got a lot of R2 backing (her 2 singles were playlisted, she got album of the week etc.) and some massive promo spots in the US. Her label invested in these promo spots and got nothing in return. Why are we denying that she is in danger now? Commercial radio is hesitant to support her music and this is very hard to turn around, so a commercial hit is hard to get. They tried to go for the AC market, but that didn't quite work out either. What options does she have left?

 

(And to add, Leona herself recently said she wanted to play Mary Poppins, so you might see her soon in ur local theatre anyways xxx)

((And the album with hit after hit did translate into sales, can you not sprout your dumb lies around. Alexandra sold over 800k of Overcome and that was with Capital FM backing only))

 

(((Just a question, where did yall get the 30k number from?)))

Edited October 11, 20159 yr by *Tim

I'm confused as to what Alexandra Burke has to do with this and why we are dragging her with those tragic tryhard nicknames like Flop on Hold and Miss Flop.

I am kinda worried you view Alexandra's attitude and sass as "ghetto" as it really shows your ignorance. You seem to be defending Leona by dragging Alex, whilst ignoring all the signs that she is in a dangerous place careerwise.

 

I'm not ignoring anything. It's not me who brought up Alexno-one in the first place. I have every right to nickname her and you'll have to deal with it.

 

Point is, Leona is a fookin flop right now, there's really no point in calling Alexandra one, as Leona spent less weeks in the top 100 than Alexandra did and only outsold her by 2k in the UK so far.

You're comparing Leona's fifth album, 10 years into her career, with Alexandra's second album, 3 years and final year of her career. Calling her a flop really was in its place when you wanna drag Leona's fifth era and the only arguments you have is a 5 year old second album. All while Echo outsold her career.

 

Why are we denying that she is in danger now?

 

Are we then? No one was. However, selling 12k and 15k in UK/US with no hit single, 3 years after her last studio album. Doesn't seem too bad for me, especially with streaming taking over and sales declining.

 

((And the album with hit after hit did translate into sales, can you not sprout your dumb lies around. Alexandra sold over 800k of Overcome and that was with Capital FM backing only))

 

I am not sprouting dumb lies, you must have misinterpret my argument. The poster conluded Leona had one big ballad to sell the album, yet it sold millions, while Alexandra had "hit after hit" but didn't even reach a million sales, didn't set a foot in US. So yes, it didn't translate in sales while "only one big ballad" sold millions :kink:

 

Edited October 11, 20159 yr by Soeplepel

You can refer to me as the BuffyCharmed of t Seet btw, not that poster.

 

Yahh but you seem to forget that Alexandra's second album and Leona's fifth are the same - the first one away from Syco!!

 

Alexandra just took that risk first - and it hasn't worked for either of them. If Alex had been with Syco, there's no way they'd have let her release an album of tired 80s disco sound tracks!

 

Leona is in biiig danger right now and no one's mentioned it's the fact that Syco wheeled her out to sell her album off one ballad performed on X Factor every year even though she doesn't have the POWER in her voice to be a big ballad diva!!! A falsetto and headvoice do not cover up the weakness, which is why she sounds much better on mid-tempo and mid-range and headvoice tracks like Bleeding Love and Fireflies and strained on Trouble etc.

 

And ballads sell albums. Alex's Overcome did realy well especially on the back of songs like Broken Heels and All About Tonight with Pitbull and Bad Boys - all party songs.

Edited October 11, 20159 yr by Low Hanging Peen

You can refer to me as the BuffyCharmed of t Seet btw, not that poster.

 

Yahh but you seem to forget that Alexandra's second album and Leona's fifth are the same - the first one away from Syco!!

 

Alexandra just took that risk first - and it hasn't worked for either of them. If Alex had been with Syco, there's no way they'd have let her release an album of tired 80s disco sound tracks!

 

Leona is in biiig danger right now and no one's mentioned it's the fact that Syco wheeled her out to sell her album off one ballad performed on X Factor every year even though she doesn't have the POWER in her voice to be a big ballad diva!!! A falsetto and headvoice do not cover up the weakness, which is why she sounds much better on mid-tempo and mid-range and headvoice tracks like Bleeding Love and Fireflies and strained on Trouble etc.

 

And ballads sell albums. Alex's Overcome did realy well especially on the back of songs like Broken Heels and All About Tonight with Pitbull and Bad Boys - all party songs.

 

Seriously, why do you take so much time and effort coming onto the forum of an artist who you dismiss as a "flop" with so many apparent flaws? Do you just like winding up her fan base? If so, that's pretty sad.

 

I don't think Leona is in any danger. There are so many artists on major record deals who have less of a profile than Leona and have sold less than Leona. Def Jam and Island are repairing the damage that Syco did to her career. It's not going to be repaired overnight. Her whole image needs to be repaired (showing the public she's not a Cowell puppet and instead has things to say as an artist) and her profile needs to be raised - a lot of people don't even know she has an album out. To be honest I don't even know why I'm bothering to explain this to you since you just seem to be trolling this forum - your username says a lot.

 

Also (a) she does have the POWER in her voice. A quick visit to YouTube will show you that and (b) she wants to be, and is, far more than a "big ballad diva".

 

 

But you keep comparing the 2 Soeplepel. Like I'm not arguing that Alexandra's career was a lot shorter and that Leona was a lot more succuesful, but stop living in the past. There's literally 0 point in defending Leona with receipts from 2008, when we are in 2015.

 

I'm in no way saying Leona is over as she has a very very small chance at success if she has the right song.

But given the fact that she recorded this album herself and assuming this is the music she wants to record, I give her 0 chance to ever be commercially succesfull again.

The music has bombed with pretty great promo in the US and UK radio has abondoned her

 

People are acting like everything is fine, when it's really a worrying situation. But I'm not going to argue with people that feel the ned to drag others down to make Leona look better.

Edited October 11, 20159 yr by *Tim

Really frustrating feeling like nothing is happening and she should be everywhere possible promoting...

Seriously, why do you take so much time and effort coming onto the forum of an artist who you dismiss as a "flop" with so many apparent flaws? Do you just like winding up her fan base? If so, that's pretty sad.

 

I don't think Leona is in any danger. There are so many artists on major record deals who have less of a profile than Leona and have sold less than Leona. Def Jam and Island are repairing the damage that Syco did to her career. It's not going to be repaired overnight. Her whole image needs to be repaired (showing the public she's not a Cowell puppet and instead has things to say as an artist) and her profile needs to be raised - a lot of people don't even know she has an album out. To be honest I don't even know why I'm bothering to explain this to you since you just seem to be trolling this forum - your username says a lot.

 

Also (a) she does have the POWER in her voice. A quick visit to YouTube will show you that and (b) she wants to be, and is, far more than a "big ballad diva".

 

Bitch don't call my username anything other than great!!

 

And I'm here as a fan, but I'm not putting my head in the sand and pretending everything's ok.

 

She has a good voice, not great, good (in comparison to other divas, not the general public), and I like her music, but I'm under no delusions. See how you think about her 'power', which she lacks and everyone knows, vs. me or how you defend this campaign vs those fans who don't. It's not good to follow without criticism - look at what happened to GaGa when her fans did that.

 

But you keep comparing the 2 Soeplepel. Like I'm not arguing that Alexandra's career was a lot shorter and that Leona was a lot more succuesful, but stop living in the past. There's literally 0 point in defending Leona with receipts from 2008, when we are in 2015.

 

I'm in no way saying Leona is over as she has a very very small chance at success if she has the right song.

But given the fact that she recorded this album herself and assuming this is the music she wants to record, I give her 0 chance to ever be commercially succesfull again.

The music has bombed with pretty great promo in the US and UK radio has abondoned her

 

People are acting like everything is fine, when it's really a worrying situation. But I'm not going to argue with people that feel the ned to drag others down to make Leona look better.

 

You're speaking as though UK radio abandoned her because her music bombed. Her music "bombed" because UK radio abandoned her, it isn't the other way around.

 

Bitch don't call my username anything other than great!!

 

And I'm here as a fan, but I'm not putting my head in the sand and pretending everything's ok.

 

She has a good voice, not great, good (in comparison to other divas, not the general public), and I like her music, but I'm under no delusions. See how you think about her 'power', which she lacks and everyone knows, vs. me or how you defend this campaign vs those fans who don't. It's not good to follow without criticism - look at what happened to GaGa when her fans did that.

 

You're here as a fan? "She's over" "she should make EPs" "she should retire from commercial music" "she needs to stop humiliating herself"... Yeah it sounds like it.

 

There's criticism and then there's negative hyperbole. I'm not going to sit here and say this is a perfect album campaign - there have been quite a few flaws and some not-so-great business decisions. But then I also think that she is far from over and that there is still a substantial amount of interest in Leona from the public - once they are actually aware of her material. Again, it goes back to having the right single choices at the right moments. Saying she's over etc etc etc is just completely dismissive and adds nothing but annoying comments to the discussion. The recording of this album was funded mainly by her so even if DJ and Island aren't too pleased with how things have turned out, they'd probably use their A&R to find hit material. But then Island wanted 'Ladders' and 'Another Love Song' to lead the album originally but Def Jam wanted Leona's choices of 'Fire Under My Feet' and 'I Am'/'Thunder' to lead, so it isn't like DJ just want quick hits. They'd rather have statement singles with more of a message to them.

But you keep comparing the 2 Soeplepel. Like I'm not arguing that Alexandra's career was a lot shorter and that Leona was a lot more succuesful, but stop living in the past. There's literally 0 point in defending Leona with receipts from 2008, when we are in 2015.

 

I'm in no way saying Leona is over as she has a very very small chance at success if she has the right song.

But given the fact that she recorded this album herself and assuming this is the music she wants to record, I give her 0 chance to ever be commercially succesfull again.

The music has bombed with pretty great promo in the US and UK radio has abondoned her

 

People are acting like everything is fine, when it's really a worrying situation. But I'm not going to argue with people that feel the ned to drag others down to make Leona look better.

 

It wasn't me who brought her up. I also didn't compare her career. I said she already flopped with her second album and Leona is on her fifth. No way she should just bring out EP's while she clearly has the power/money and talent to bring out an album. Is it not commercial enough? So what? Atleast it's an album produced by a hitmaker for Beyonce and others. Not someone who she found on the street to produce songs a la Renegade trash.

 

You know, I think you're wrong about the idea "if this is the music she wants to record".. "this music" .. like.. what is "this music" ? It's the same music that does good on the radios now. She never said she wanted to write all her albums herself in the future. She never said she didn't want to record songs with more writers/producers.

 

What's so bad about not having a commercial album anyway? Why can't Leona, or any artist, just record a personal without having fans crying about it's not selling? It's absolutely disgusting.

 

Nobody is acting like everything is fine. But I think everyone is just acting like they know they have no control and there's nothing they can change about it.

 

Plus, I wouldn't be dragging others if it wasn't for that troll to come here "YALL SHE'S OVER" and then mention Alexandra in the same post.

 

She has a good voice, not great, good (in comparison to other divas, not the general public

 

Don't let your personal opinion cloud your objective thinking.

 

Bitch shade me again and I'll have your nappy WEAVE!!

 

If she's flopping so badly, doing non-commercial EPs will work out better for her - less expense, gets to record music she wants to and without problems. Like with Nelly Furtado, the question is alwaaays gonna be why record pop music - pop music designed for appeal - if she doesn't have radio or public support?

 

I don't think Def Jam were making a statement - they probably thought those songs would do best, so obviously Island has a better idea about what pop music is 'in' right now.

If she's flopping so badly, doing non-commercial EPs will work out better for her - less expense, gets to record music she wants to and without problems

 

Who says she doesn't want to invest in her albums? She has always been making music, she had 2 albums before XF so I'm pretty sure with the money she has she can continue doing what she wants. Just because you're poor doesn't mean she has to record EP's

 

And what are the problems though? Leona isn't bothered.

Edited October 11, 20159 yr by Soeplepel

Bitch shade me again and I'll have your nappy WEAVE!!

 

If she's flopping so badly, doing non-commercial EPs will work out better for her - less expense, gets to record music she wants to and without problems. Like with Nelly Furtado, the question is alwaaays gonna be why record pop music - pop music designed for appeal - if she doesn't have radio or public support?

 

I don't think Def Jam were making a statement - they probably thought those songs would do best, so obviously Island has a better idea about what pop music is 'in' right now.

 

Why record pop music? Maybe because that's what she wants to record - that's the whole point of her leaving Syco... because she wants to have more creative control. And she doesn't have public support? You make out as though the public are against her. Leona has shown on numerous occasions that with the right platform, she can get the public onside - 'Hurt' shot to #2 on iTunes with just one XF performance (zero radio support, no music video), 'One More Sleep' rockets into the top 3 despite a lack of radio support prior to the XF performance - there's a clear pattern developing here: radio doesn't support Leona, Leona finds way of giving the material exposure, public supports Leona. Leona's relationship with the public isn't the problem, the material isn't the problem - UK radio is the problem.

Leona's relationship with the public isn't the problem, the material isn't the problem - UK radio is the problem.

 

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