Oh I mean outside of the competition actually. I don't watch it, but I'm reading from you guys that the amount of positive sympathie does seem to work.

 

Oh sorry I didn't mean to aim that at you I was just sayin' :lol:

He was asking for me, sorry babe :)

 

But honestly how good was Pixie, was she better than Simon? I actually thought my Simon babe was already out of the competition?Anyway if she really was the one with one of highest chance to win this competition, it really sounds unfair.

It sounds like Frankie doesn't have The Saturday curse, she doesn't seem like that type of girl. She could make it far if she wasn't so fragile. I'm watching the finals next week though.

It's not unfair. She got overscored a few times over the series while Frankie would be unfairly underscored. Plus, it was clear she was Craig's favorite. (But then I believe Frankie is Len's favorite, so whatever :kink: )

 

Pixie was definitely better than Simon by a miles, but as always, the Dance Off is technically supposed to be judged on the ROUTINE from THAT DAY. Truth is Pixie only got 35 I believe for her dance (and that was more than what I would have given her, tbh) and her leg action was really sloppy as the judges mentioned, plus she and Trent made illegal lifts. A lot of people that knows their stuff also said (even before the bottom 2 spoiler) that Pixie had about 20-30 sec of Cha-Cha-Cha content in her routine, the rest was pretty much just twirling and illegal lifts while apparently Simon actually gave a proper American Smooth routine from the start to the end.

So, as far as the Dance Off goes, it really was Simon's to win, judging on these two performances alone.

 

The thing is, I think both Craig and Bruno actually voted for Pixie because she was "overall" a better dancer and have been better in the previous weeks. But that's not even the actual point of the dance off............ :unsure: Otherwise, just don't bother with making the contestants do the dance again and just vote for the best dancer between the two and save you the trouble, ya know?

 

Now where it's actually unfair is that Pixie was shown to be 2nd on the leaderboad, however there was 3-way-tie just under her, so even though she had 5 points, Simon, Jake and Frankie all had 4 points whereas if there weren't any ties, they would have had 4, 3 and 2 points respectively. That would have been fair, however, having a 3-way-tie actually made Pixie not so safe afterall despite her being 2nd on the leaderboard as there was only one point between her and three other contestants! People at home probably assumed she was safe because she was more or less at the top of the leaderboard and won the Walz-a-thon, but that doesn't mean shit...

 

At the end of the day, the public has only got itself to blame tbh. Lee should have voted, that's it. :D

$l*t

$l*t

 

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Mark should be in the dance off next week, and whoever he's in the dance off with should be safe for the final. So hopefully we can say Frankie is pretty set for the final. We all need to vote still though.

 

Pixie was meant to be doing American Smooth next week so it should almost certainly be:

 

Argentine Tango and Rumba for Frankie.

I'd rather Mark be in the final than Simon but as long as Frankie's there, it's all good.

 

I really think it's Caroline vs Frankie. Flack's really come into her own these last few weeks.

The Sats fans really need to rally round. If we could get their GH into the top 10, we can get Frankie a SCD victory! :lol:

Hopefully Frankie & Kevin pull a "Dina & Vincent" and dance an Argentine Tango and an American Smooth in the semis (she's bound to dance the latter fantastically)!

 

I think Jake could win, I mean that's of course providing he survives next week as he has dances that really don't play to his strengths in the Semis. If Jake were to pass into the final, think about it, he will do either his Salsa / Samba again and then a Showdance which his partner, Janette, will most likely make very Salsa-inspired as she's a world Salsa dancing champion; this will almost definitely garner A LOT of votes as they will be very cheeky and crowd pleasing!

 

I think it's Jake's win if he escapes next week's elimination so I think we'd better hope he's booted pronto!

I think Jakes got this as well. He's off the UK's most watched TV and is a white male. I think he'll walk this personally.

Lee Wallace and Hurricane up for duo of the year!!!

 

You all know what to do.

Jake

Tango

Salsa

Waltz

Jive

Quickstep

Paso Double

Rumba

American Smooth

Samba

Argentine Tango

Charleston

Left :

Cha Cha Cha, Foxtrot, Viennese Waltz

 

Simon

Jive

Tango

Rumba

Charleston

Viennese Waltz

Paso Double

Quickstep

Argentine Tango

Salsa

Waltz

American Smooth

Left :

Cha-Cha-Cha, Foxtrot, Samba

 

Mark

Cha-Cha-Cha

American Smooth

Paso Double

Quickstep

Samba

Jive

Waltz

Charleston

Tango

Salsa

Foxtrot

Left :

Argentine Tango, Rumba, Viennese Waltz

 

Caroline

Cha-Cha-Cha

Tango

Rumba

Quickstep

Paso Double

Samba

Waltz

Jive

American Smooth

Charleston

Argentine Tango

Left :

Foxtrot, Salsa, Viennese Waltz

 

Frankie

Waltz

Charleston

Paso Doble

Cha-Cha-Cha

Foxtrot

Tango

Samba

Quickstep

Viennese

Waltz

Jive

Salsa

Left :

Argentine Tango, American Smooth, Rumba

 

Here's what I'm hoping for!

• Frankie : Argentine Tango & American Smooth
• Mark : Rumba & Viennese Waltz
• Caroline : Salsa & Foxtrot
• Simon : Cha-Cha-Cha & Samba
• Jake : Foxtrot & Viennese Waltz/Cha-Cha-Cha, who cares, he's pretty much got a dance that everyone else but Frankie has to do as well LOL.

Lee Wallace and Hurricane up for duo of the year!!!

 

You all know what to do.

Vote #Timpril!

Lee Wallace and Hurricane up for duo of the year!!!

 

You all know what to do.

??

 

Pixie was definitely better than Simon by a miles, but as always, the Dance Off is technically supposed to be judged on the ROUTINE from THAT DAY.

Truth is Pixie only got 35 I believe for her dance

(and that was more than what I would have given her, tbh) and her leg action was really sloppy as the judges mentioned, plus she and Trent made illegal lifts. A lot of people that knows their stuff also said (even before the bottom 2 spoiler) that Pixie had about 20-30 sec of Cha-Cha-Cha content in her routine, the rest was pretty much just twirling and illegal lifts while apparently Simon actually gave a proper American Smooth routine from the start to the end.

So, as far as the Dance Off goes, it really was Simon's to win, judging on these two performances alone.

 

The thing is, I think both Craig and Bruno actually voted for Pixie because she was "overall" a better dancer and have been better in the previous weeks. But that's not even the actual point of the dance off............ :unsure: Otherwise, just don't bother with making the contestants do the dance again and just vote for the best dancer between the two and save you the trouble, ya know?

 

Now where it's actually unfair is that Pixie was shown to be 2nd on the leaderboad, however there was 3-way-tie just under her, so even though she had 5 points, Simon, Jake and Frankie all had 4 points whereas if there weren't any ties, they would have had 4, 3 and 2 points respectively. That would have been fair, however, having a 3-way-tie actually made Pixie not so safe afterall despite her being 2nd on the leaderboard as there was only one point between her and three other contestants! People at home probably assumed she was safe because she was more or less at the top of the leaderboard and won the Walz-a-thon, but that doesn't mean shit...

 

At the end of the day, the public has only got itself to blame tbh. Lee should have voted, that's it. :D

Everything seems a little fixed now. I'm sure Len was probably asked by the producers to say yes to Simon in order to have a shock exit. They may have compensated with Pixie for a 'we'll premiere your next song on radio 1 if we can kick you off the show'.

 

NWD Lee :nocheer: and congrats on the BJ nomination! :cheer:

 

Everything seems a little fixed now.

 

Not necessary. Her cha-cha-cha just wasn't good. In fact, people thought the fix was her winning the Walz-a-thon. Indeed, before the Walz-a-thon, Pixie was tied with Simon and Mark over the 35 mark (while Frankie was literally at the bottom with 34 ?!?!?!) and her winning the Walz-a-thon (which some people say was fixed) actually pushed her to the 2nd place...However, if it was a fix (I personnaly don't believe it was, but wtv, people love conspiracy theories), it definitely backfired against them because as I said, the three-way-tie under Pixie made her not so safe afterall despite being 2nd.

Not necessary. Her cha-cha-cha just wasn't good. In fact, people thought the fix was her winning the Walz-a-thon. Indeed, before the Walz-a-thon, Pixie was tied with Simon and Mark over the 35 mark (while Frankie was literally at the bottom with 34 ?!?!?!) and her winning the Walz-a-thon (which some people say was fixed) actually pushed her to the 2nd place...However, if it was a fix (I personnaly don't believe it was, but wtv, people love conspiracy theories), it definitely backfired against them because as I said, the three-way-tie under Pixie made her not so safe afterall despite being 2nd.

 

Yeah but you can't prove it wasn't a fix either. They could easily do a shock exit to make the show talked about and as it is a reality show It could be possible. It's all entertainment at the end of the day. I'm talking about her being eliminated was a fix intending to shock audiences btw cause I'm not sure I actually am understanding you properly :unsure:

Edited December 7, 201410 yr by NellyXmas. S

Yeah but you can't prove it wasn't a fix either. They could easily do a shock exit to make the show talked about and as it is a reality show It could be possible. It's all entertainment at the end of the day. I'm talking about her being eliminated was a fix intending to shock audiences btw cause I'm not sure I actually am understanding you properly :unsure:

 

Ugh sorry :( I'll try to be more clear, but it's hard, it would be easier in French! :lol:

 

So.... Yes and no.

 

*SHADOW2009 MODE ACTIVATED*

 

Simon's score :

35 (8,9,

9

,9)

Pixie's score :

35 (9,9,

8

,9)

It goes : Craig, Darcey,

Len

, Bruno btw

 

Craig voted for Pixie (possibly, his favorite). Bruno also voted for Pixie because he believed she was overall the best dancer between these two throughout the series (which isn't the point of a dance-off at all). If they were trying to fix a shock elimination, they sure didn't start too well...

Darcey voted for Simon. A lot of people believe she's biased and has a clear preference for the male dancers, and I actually believe that's true as well. She's made it clear in the past.

 

Now, Len. He's the one with the casting vote. Let's remember Pixie's got 2 votes for herself and Simon only one by now. He votes for Simon and since he has the casting vote, Pixie goes home. Now, can you really say Len voting for Simon is a fix to execute a shock elimination because the producers told him to? :unsure: He gave Simon a

9

for the American Smooth he did (and there was a mistake which didn't happen in the actual dance-off, so who knows how much his dance really was worth in Len's eyes, maybe a 10) and only gave Pixie a

8

for her Cha-Cha-Cha (which wasn't really any better in the dance-off tbh and still had the illegal lifts Len critized).

 

On that alone, you can assume Len believes Simon was better than Pixie in the dance-off, thus he voted for him and not for Pixie. Had Len voted for Pixie instead of Simon, now I would have actually believed in a fix (although, not the same fix you're talking about) because his scoring made it clear (and that even before the bottom 2) that he prefered Simon over Pixie. It wouldn't have been consistent, and thus weird (fixed).

 

I know it's an entertainment show, but I fail to see the fix here as Bruno and Craig were ALWAYS going to vote for Pixie. Even when the spoiler was announced, people predicted it. You just need to head over the Digital Spy forums, people were calling it from the second they had the spoiler. They are just that obvious. They have favorites, etc. For example, Darcey was ALWAYS going to vote for Simon.

Also Len actually had a little accident with Trent earlier in the night (which made people,

again before the bottom 2 was revealed

, feared that "Team Trixie" would be in danger as Trent came across a bit cocky/talked back to Len. People assumed the public wouldn't have liked that. (It's all on Digital Spy!) Len even threatened Trent to give him and Pixie a 6 because of his attitude! (

Now, I repeat again, all of this was before the bottom 2 was revealed and thus before the producers knew about Pixie being in the bottom 2

)

 

It seems, to me, that Len was pretty pissed off by Trent. He didn't need a fix to vote against Pixie and Trent after that on my opinion...

 

So what I'm talking about is that her being eliminated doesn't look like such a fix. As I said, Craig and Bruno were always going to vote for Pixie, fix or not. Same for Darcey and Simon. The only fix there could have been is with Len's vote as he got the casting vote. But as I've been saying above, he gave Simon a 9 and Pixie a 8 for their respective dances and the point of a dance-off is to judge the person on how they dance during the dance-off, not troughout the series (*cough* Bruno *cough*) If Simon is getting a 9 from Len and Pixie is getting a 8, it means Len believes Simon's dance is stronger than Pixie's. If you keep that in mind, how Len voting for Simon (which he believes was stronger in the dance-off, clearly) is a fix? :unsure: That's my point, basically. :lol: Sorry if it wasn't clear. :(

 

I'm not saying there is no fix at all or whatever. It's an entertainment show, I'm sure there are fixes here and there (as I said, the Waltz-a-thon with Pixie and Frankie at the top could have been a fix from the producers, that's what most people on Digital Spy thought), but in this particular case I don't believe there is.

 

But you are right : I can't prove it wasn't 100% a fix I guess. :lol:

Hurricane that was longer than all 7 Harry Potter books combined.

 

But anyway - I do agree that I don't think it was a fix. People seem to say that every time something shocking and disagreeable happens.

 

It was probably a mixture of things that stopped her from getting the votes. She won the waltz-a-thon, people probably thought she was safe. There was bad publicity in the paper about her dancing past. People probably over-voted mark thinking he was a dead cert to go. Also, I don't think it always come 100% down the the celebrity dancer but to the partner too. And while Trent was vaguely cute, he wasn't very charismatic or memorable - and it was his first year so people don't know him as well.

Edited December 8, 201410 yr by MistleJoe.

You've been Shadowing this whole thread for a while Hurricane :D

 

You're more passionate about this than any other Frankie stan. :lol:

Hurricane that was longer than all 7 Harry Potter books combined.

 

But anyway - I do agree that I don't think it was a fix. People seem to say that every time something shocking and disagreeable happens.

 

It was probably a mixture of things that stopped her from getting the votes. She won the waltz-a-thon, people probably thought she was safe. There was bad publicity in the paper about her dancing past. People probably over-voted mark thinking he was a dead cert to go. Also, I don't think it always come 100% down the the celebrity dancer but to the partner too. And while Trent was vaguely cute, he wasn't very charismatic or memorable - and it was his first year so people don't know him as well.

Exactly, I agree. People always get like this if the vote doesn't go their way or if someone they really want to leave stays in against the odds! And they'll blame anything other than the fact the person simply got more or less votes.

 

I've only been dipping in and out of this series I have to say, but I thought just a couple of weeks ago it was all too predictable virtually every week! And I really thought Pixie would be the shock exit over Frankie (there was no way it would be Jake!), although I would have been unsurprised if she did go on to win. I don't see why it would be fixed. Unlike X Factor, where they have to work with and promote an artist if they win, this is just a "throwaway" show to keep people entertained for a couple of months. The celebrities get an experience and the winner gets a trophy but there's no reason why they'd need to fix it!

People are thinking about this far too deeply. It's hilarious.