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Bit of a f*** up from Big Brother there. Ken should have been kicked out.

 

As for Jeremy, I think the real reason he went, was because an incident like this would have happened again. Wasn't he sober before Big Brother? He's mentally unstable, and it's not the best environment for him. Shame as I quite liked him, and I he was an interesting character, but quite clear to me he wasn't physiologically stable to be in there.

I wonder who they'll going to replace Jeremy with.

Nobody probably. Claire is the only other C5 celeb housemate who left without being evicted (walked due to illness) and she wasn't replaced. However that was day 16 whilst this is just day 4. C5 generally don't have replacements though, they had Faye's sister Jem in BB12 (she herself walked) and they did have the three newbies in BB15 on day 50 or whatever but they weren't replacements (Kimberley walked due to illness after they arrived).

 

Perhaps they will replace him with someone they have on standby, C5 have never had anyone leave so early via something other than an eviction!

I don't think what Jeremy did was necessarily as bad as what Ken did although it was obviously in extremely bad taste, but if the girls (or even just Chloe) feels uncomfortable with him being there, they don't really have much choice but to respect their wish. Ken should be gone too though, I actually liked him until tonight, so wrong on so many levels.
IMO Jeremy should have just got a warning yes what he done was wrong and inappropriate but it was just a stupid mistake had Chloe not reacted so strongly I think they would have let him stay. Ken should have been the one to get Ejected he was VILE contentiously that episode.
horrified on both counts tbh.

 

Exactly this. One is not worse than the other, both of the main causes of controversy on tonight's show have been very disturbing and rather horrible to watch. There is no question that Ken should have been removed in the same way as Jeremy. In fact with Ken's continuous disgusting comments throughout I find him one of the most uncomfortable characters I have ever seen on this show.

 

I remember someone on here claimed that Ken gave them "don't give him a house near a school" vibe as early as launch night. Whoever picked up on that then kudos because he certainly seems to me to be of the Saville/Harris variety.

Jeremy is mentally unstable, a drunk, drugs and whatever else, recently off the wagon and they give him endless amounts of alcohol. What were they expecting really?

 

Ken should have gone too. I don't think this will be the last time he says something offensive.

 

I can't stand Perez either. A situation that he had nothing to do yet he tries to makes everything about him. He's insufferable.

Absolutely disgusted by Ken's behaviour tonight and I'm equally disgusted that he hasn't also been ejected. Such a vile thing.
Jeremy is mentally unstable, a drunk, drugs and whatever else, recently off the wagon and they give him endless amounts of alcohol. What were they expecting really?

 

Ken should have gone too. I don't think this will be the last time he says something offensive.

 

I can't stand Perez either. A situation that he had nothing to do yet he tries to makes everything about him. He's insufferable.

 

Pretty much summed up everything I came here to say. Jeremy was in the wrong for sure but I did feel slightly sorry for him. He is an emotional mess. Perez is just so awful I can't find a word for it.

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Wasn't expecting all the Ken drama! :drama:

 

I agree that if they decided to kick Jeremy out, they should have done the same with Ken, especially considering his behaviour consists of two separate types of bad behaviour. I'm sure they can easily find two other celebrities and I'm sure they would be cheap considering the standard that are put in.

 

Perez did go slightly over the top though, it's like capitalising on the drama to give him airtime. Nadia also seems aware of airtime, she knows how BB works as seen though various comments and she was placing herself right at the centre of the drama. With Jeremy incident, she was immediately with Chloe and Cami, blocked other people from getting involved and them brought herself up to the Diary Room with Chloe instead of Cami. As soon as she left the Diary Room, she went over to Jeremy. Regarding the Ken situation, she went over to him even though Michelle was dealing with it and then she went to see Perez later when he was called to the snug. Although the Perez part seems the most genuine as they do seem to be quite close.

Big Brother should have intervened between all the Ken instances. We have them to blame for him not getting ejected.. they have enough to eject him over a 12+ hour stance, but the fact that he got his Verbal Warning THIS MORNING was unacceptable.
Wasn't expecting all the Ken drama! :drama:

 

I agree that if they decided to kick Jeremy out, they should have done the same with Ken, especially considering his behaviour consists of two separate types of bad behaviour. I'm sure they can easily find two other celebrities and I'm sure they would be cheap considering the standard that are put in.

 

Perez did go slightly over the top though, it's like capitalising on the drama to give him airtime. Nadia also seems aware of airtime, she knows how BB works as seen though various comments and she was placing herself right at the centre of the drama. With Jeremy incident, she was immediately with Chloe and Cami, blocked other people from getting involved and them brought herself up to the Diary Room with Chloe instead of Cami. As soon as she left the Diary Room, she went over to Jeremy. Regarding the Ken situation, she went over to him even though Michelle was dealing with it and then she went to see Perez later when he was called to the snug. Although the Perez part seems the most genuine as they do seem to be quite close.

Completely agree about Nadia. I really think she's trying to be everything that she thinks makes a "great" housemate, which is very disappointing because I thought she'd be that anyway. I can imagine she thinks Katie will be the most hated housemate on the outside and she thinks that being the "hero" who lays into her will make her fly to the final. She just needs to be herself!

 

She's being a bit too motherly too. Whereas Michelle just genuinely seems to care about everyone and tries to sort things out without anyone getting hurt, Nadia seems too forceful and... jealous even when anyone else takes her "role". I think being caring and motherly is something else she thinks will endear her to the public but in such a strong series I really think it's all going to cost her.

I really don't get this criticism of Nadia, I just genuinely think she is like that and is really great at offering advice and is genuinely motherly in her demeanour, I think she is just completely being herself. With the Katie stuff I also just believe Katie's comments are against everything that Nadia believes (as they are for many people) and she just doesn't like nastiness for no reason. People are being very quick to sweep some of Katie's comments under the rug (although I have to an extent to as I take everything she says with a pinch of salt and think she is funny) but there is no reason why Nadia shouldn't disagree with them as most decent human-beings would. The only thing I think Nadia can be criticised for is maybe taking her comments a little too seriously.
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I'm not bothered about Nadia's approach to Katie atm because I probably would have done the same had I been in there. I would want to know why Katie says the stuff that she does as I do agree that her comments seem to have been swept under the rug on here. It'll only be if she goes into Linda Nolan levels of attacking at every single moment that I would dislike that aspect of Nadia.

 

However, I did not like how she was there at every piece of action tonight. There's only so much 'mothering' you can do before it looks like you're wanting screentime.

However, I did not like how she was there at every piece of action tonight. There's only so much 'mothering' you can do before it looks like you're wanting screentime.

Exactly this. I do understand the Katie thing somewhat, as obviously there are barely any of her views outside of the show I agree with, but this is my main problem. She might not be wanting screentime and she might actually be motherly and want to help, but t that's how I personally construe the situation. It just seems a bit suspect that she has to "mother" everybody involved imo.

I am completely and utterly REPULSED and DISGUSTED by Ken. What a f***ing vile man, and him being of an elderly age is not an excuse at all.

 

I am so f***ing sick of this type of behaviour being excused, I have seen praise for him on other forums and Twitter and it is f***ing baffling ... why and how is it acceptable?! Knowing how absolutely moronic the public are, Ken will win.

 

I dont like Perez and I think he involves himself way too much but he and Nadia are at least standing up to him, which will of course make them the bullies and hated by the public. Yawn.

How is Ken still in this house? Surely he should have been kicked out as well as Jeremy.

 

It is disgusting the things he has come out about woman, the comment to Alexander. Didn't he say to Perez at the beginning of yesterday's episode that he was doing all this so he could get kicked out?

 

A vile old man is all he is.

I am completely and utterly REPULSED and DISGUSTED by Ken. What a f***ing vile man, and him being of an elderly age is not an excuse at all.

 

I am so f***ing sick of this type of behaviour being excused, I have seen praise for him on other forums and Twitter and it is f***ing baffling ... why and how is it acceptable?! Knowing how absolutely moronic the public are, Ken will win.

 

I dont like Perez and I think he involves himself way too much but he and Nadia are at least standing up to him, which will of course make them the bullies and hated by the public. Yawn.

You should see Digital Spy :lol: I've honestly seen more praise for Ken than Nadia or Perez :/ And I've seen people on twitter saying he's funny and it's "just his age". I don't think he'll win but I'm having serious doubts he'll go Tuesday. Even bad airtime gets you more votes than next to no airtime (Alexander).

 

if Cami was acting like Ken, she'd be like one of those 90%+ really hated evictees from the C4 days.

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