April 26, 201510 yr Author Indeed! And it's matched Bounce's peak at least, so that's very good going when you put it like that. 6 top 20s out of the 6 UK singles from this era is a fantastic effort :D
April 26, 201510 yr Really rather surprised that it isn't even top 10. It was 4/5 on iTunes pretty much all week. I knew streaming would cost it a place or two, but being as low as #13... I really think they need to adjust how much streaming effects the chart now, because it's starting to represent less and less what people are actually buying. #7 sales, #41 streams.
April 26, 201510 yr ^idk how it fell to #13 from the Friday update, wasn't it #11? I know all those positions must be verryyy close but I thought this would get the edge considering it was the one actually improving significantly in comparison this week as you pointed out :lol: Sacrilegious that it managed to outpeak the magnum opus Work though :teresa:
April 27, 201510 yr Indeed! And it's matched Bounce's peak at least, so that's very good going when you put it like that. 6 top 20s out of the 6 UK singles from this era is a fantastic effort :D I don't think you can disregard Beg For It being a single in the UK? It was released as a digital single & has a remix EP. That seems very single-esque to me... :eyesemoji:
April 27, 201510 yr Author I disregard it as a UK single because of radio - sure, radio can snub any single they want, but it's quite clear they do it on an artist-by-artist basis, and Beg For It followed two huge smashes as well as three further top 20s before that, they had no valid reason to snub her with Beg For It. Furthermore, they then playlisted Trouble, as high up as the a-list. The only explanation I can see for Beg For It being snubbed was its release being cancelled for whatever reason. Obviously it's hard to know the ins and outs of it all but I think if Radio 1 truly passed on Beg For It, they would have passed on Trouble too.
April 27, 201510 yr I just think that cancelling a release needs to involve actually cancelling the release? :lol: And it wasn't cancelled in that respect, it was widely available. They even went ahead and released remixes eventually. Radio snubbing a song, I don't think that's an automatic case of "it's not a single then, because they've not playlisted it". Also not having a video isn't grounds to dismiss something as not being a single either. :P Equally sometimes a song having a video doesn't make it a single. It's all very arbitrary, but Beg For It was singled out for single treatment and was never dubbed Urban only/buzz/instant grat/album track cut only.
April 27, 201510 yr I don't rly consider Beg For It an actual single outside North America either tbh, let alone a LEAD single of a new project at that.. maybe a promotional single for the reissue since it was available/did get a digital release. Reclassified had one of the weirdest and messiest campaigns ever, way to kill her momentum worldwide after Black Widow :wacko:
April 27, 201510 yr Does UK radio really dictate that heavily what is a single and what isn't? Every song that isn't played/playlisted = not a single? Well, I'll take that definition if it means Girls Aloud - Beautiful 'Cause You Love Me wasn't a single after all. :cool:
April 27, 201510 yr Author It doesn't heavily dictate it but it's a very good indicator especially with Iggy. As I said, Radio 1 do not playlist a song on its own merit (despite what they say) and it's on the artist - they would not snub a single of Iggy's when they a-listed the ones either side. That to me is a clear indicator that it wasn't a UK single. If it really wasn't sent (which I can believe), then I'm even more certain.
April 28, 201510 yr Does UK radio really dictate that heavily what is a single and what isn't? Every song that isn't played/playlisted = not a single? Well, I'll take that definition if it means Girls Aloud - Beautiful 'Cause You Love Me wasn't a single after all. :cool: Did that release itself not actually get cancelled, and its charting at #97 was due to a performance on CIN?
April 28, 201510 yr Did that release itself not actually get cancelled, and its charting at #97 was due to a performance on CIN? I guess the CIN performance must have contributed to "awareness" of 'Beautiful 'Cause You Love Me' at least, although that performance did occur 10 days before the album actually came out, so it wasn't available to buy in the immediate aftermath. It was a weird one, that song and what its status was supposed to be. The way it was handled was pretty much the opposite of any previous single they'd released. There never seemed to be any plans for it to have a physical or digital release, or even artwork. It didn't seem to get any radio exposure bar its premiere! The only factors that gave it a "single feel" was the music video & the fact that they performed it on more than one occasion. If it was ever a properly planned single that they decided to cancel, they certainly did that rather quietly. I wish there could have been some confirmation from any of the girls whether it was to be regarded as a single or not. ~~~~~ Re: 'Beg For It', I just think it's a bit of a "get out of jail free card" situation when a new single fails to ignite by a popular artist for whatever reason, and then fans declare it not to be a single at all because it wasn't playlisted? I'd hardly regard 'Beg For It' as being a "UK album track" and it's never been described as a buzz single / promotional track or whatever. It was just regarded as the new Iggy single at the time it was out. :lol: I'm not sure it can really be regarded as a cancelled single either, given that there's a digital single & digital EP available. I really miss pre-downloads/pre-streams sometimes, when it was just 100% clear that a single was a single if there was a physical format in the shops... and sometimes particular singles by big artists flopped! :drama: Anyway it doesn't really matter. Nothing is official or clear-cut about the situation; we can all regard Beg For It however we like, it's fine. :kink: Lady Gaga G.U.Y. and Jessie J Burnin' Up were singles!!!! ~~~~~ Just to make this thread vaguely on topic again (I apologise x)... 'Trouble' is such a grower. :wub: I really hope this is the week that it goes Top 10 in the UK.
April 28, 201510 yr What happened with BFI remains a mystery. It seems the logical story is that Mø wasn't comfortable with promoting the song further and Iggy and her team decided to halt the release.
May 3, 201510 yr I like this but it is neither Iggy nor Jennifer's best. What I'm really annoyed about is how "Trouble" and "Go All Night" have become UK top 20 hits when JHUD failed to produce any hits here - I remember loving "Dangerous" and there was a collab with Iggy on there too, hopefully she'll try and push that now that this is looking to be a hit.
May 3, 201510 yr JHud's Iggy collab He Ain't Goin' Nowhere is immense, so funky :wub: Miles ahead of this Trouble imo.
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