September 15, 200618 yr I think ti should be legalised. Wether it's legal or not, it's going to be happening, so it may as well be legalised so the girls are not treatedt like dirt and frowned upon when they mention there work. In Nevada it's legal and the girls have a good standard of life. It's also much safer for them and I believe it would help decrease the amount of trafficked girls into the UK
September 16, 200618 yr I am off out in a few mins so don't have time to give a full reply, rest assured I will later but I want to pick up on your point about "too pathetic to pick up a girlfriend" The reason I procured prostitutes was because I did NOT want a girlfriend because after having a bad experience with one where she cheated on me with not one but TWO guys I said to myself that I will never have another relationship again and then I stupidly let my guard down and trusted a girl again and got into a relationship, and guess what happened !! yep she cheated on me, despite the fact I spent thousands on her and gave her a great lifestyle and paid off her credit card debts the slag went and cheated on me and lied to me and in the end I was so suspicious of her behaviour that I hired a private detective who found she was having a relationship on the side with another guy, that came close to ruining me, I drank heavily, my work got severely affected, there were times during darker moments where I wished I had the willpower to top myself so after being cheated on by 2 successive women and the effect it had on me why should I just let my guard slip again and get another girlfriend ??? that ain't being pathetic thats being scarred by bad experiences so I thought **** it I just want sex without all the emotional $h!t that goes with a relationship and I procured prostitutes to fulfill my sexual urges without the risk of emotional attachment and the damage another relationship would do to me mentally Also I haven't procured prostitutes for years and have no intention of doing so again, I refuse point blank to have another relationship because I cannot let my guard down yet again and be treated like $h!t which could well happen but I have no intention of using the services of prostitutes again i dont get it craig.... arnt you a successful businessman in recruitment? how come you can read people but not women? taking it out on women and abusing them isnt the answer to making bad decisions.. the bottom line is..... would any of you let/be happy with your daughter doing it?....
September 16, 200618 yr i dont get it craig.... arnt you a successful businessman in recruitment? how come you can read people but not women? taking it out on women and abusing them isnt the answer to making bad decisions.. the bottom line is..... would any of you let/be happy with your daughter doing it?.... They were not forced into prostitution Rob, they were doing it entirely through their own free will, they weren't sex slaves from the far east or anything they were by and large well educated middle class women who wanted to make extra money, there were nurses who were doing prostitution to help pay the cost of living in London, I slept with 2 women ftom the "agency" who were in highly paid city jobs in the day and moonlighted as call girls at night, none of the girls were forced into it and were doing it on their own free will, they could leave the agency at any time so they were doing it voluntarily so its not abuse I would be concerned if a daughter of mine was doing it yes not because of the fact that it is sex for cash but because I don't know the guys she is sleeping with they could be serial killers for all I know but I would accept that she was a grown up woman making her own decisions so I would try talk her out of it on safety grounds but would not stop her
September 16, 200618 yr Well, the risk of meeting up with dangerous blokes aside, prostituion also carries a greater risk of getting an STI. I suppose as crimes go, prostitution is a very minor one. As has been said, it's been around since the earliest human civilisations. I think most people tolerate it, or at the very least accept it as a fact of life. I'm not sure it should be legalised though. I agree I wouldn't like the idea of any female relative of mine working as a prostitute. Selling and indeed paying to have sex with someone is quite seedy really. I suppose if it was legalised it would be safer for the prostitutes though.
September 16, 200618 yr They were not forced into prostitution Rob, they were doing it entirely through their own free will, they weren't sex slaves from the far east or anything they were by and large well educated middle class women who wanted to make extra money, there were nurses who were doing prostitution to help pay the cost of living in London, I slept with 2 women ftom the "agency" who were in highly paid city jobs in the day and moonlighted as call girls at night, none of the girls were forced into it and were doing it on their own free will, they could leave the agency at any time so they were doing it voluntarily so its not abuse I would be concerned if a daughter of mine was doing it yes not because of the fact that it is sex for cash but because I don't know the guys she is sleeping with they could be serial killers for all I know but I would accept that she was a grown up woman making her own decisions so I would try talk her out of it on safety grounds but would not stop her no sane woman in the right mind would sell their body... whatever the reason why they 'chose' to do it still doesnt make it right. as you can guess. im dead against prostitutes, because i just dont accept that any sane woman would do it freely... i do believe that there is a reason why woman do it and this problem should be tackled.... i see no way why any woman should sell herself. im against promescuety... i believe that sex should only be enjoyed between 2 people in love, or who are in love at the time. no father would accept their daughter becoming a prostitute, therefore no man should use a protitute..
September 16, 200618 yr no sane woman in the right mind would sell their body... whatever the reason why they 'chose' to do it still doesnt make it right. as you can guess. im dead against prostitutes, because i just dont accept that any sane woman would do it freely... i do believe that there is a reason why woman do it and this problem should be tackled.... i see no way why any woman should sell herself. im against promescuety... i believe that sex should only be enjoyed between 2 people in love, or who are in love at the time. no father would accept their daughter becoming a prostitute, therefore no man should use a protitute.. Their reasons for doing it were generally financial, the cost of living in London on for instance a nurses income. Others did it for the "buzz" like the city girls etc other did it generally for money or because they loved sex
September 16, 200618 yr im against promescuety... i believe that sex should only be enjoyed between 2 people in love, or who are in love at the time. In the other thread you said lol.. we will not be getting married, we are together atm and are both very happy to be as such... however we are both aware that this isnt a 'forever' thing... i dont want any more kids... clare eventualy wants a husband and kids.. we know it is a relationship that isnt going to last forever... but what does? we are enjoying it for as long as we are happy together, knowing full well that within a few years it will end...hopefully with many happy memories.. Apologies if I have got it wrong and no offence intended if I did but isn't the above (the fact you aren't going to be together for good) an admission that you and Clare are together for the sex as opposed to love each other ? if so doesn't that contradict what you said above that sex should be able 2 people who are in love ?
September 16, 200618 yr Their reasons for doing it were generally financial, the cost of living in London on for instance a nurses income. Others did it for the "buzz" like the city girls etc other did it generally for money or because they loved sex financial reasons are just no excuse, and any gentleman shouldnt take advantage of another persons hardship for his own ends... thats abuse. i dont buy the 'girls do it because they like sex' c**p tbh its a myth proliferated by the pornographers in order to justify their actions.. bottom line... prostitution is wrong, using prostitutes is wrong.
September 16, 200618 yr financial reasons are just no excuse, and any gentleman shouldnt take advantage of another persons hardship for his own ends... thats abuse. i dont buy the 'girls do it because they like sex' c**p tbh its a myth proliferated by the pornographers in order to justify their actions.. bottom line... prostitution is wrong, using prostitutes is wrong. I typically requested 19-25 year olds (I was in my early 30's at the time) and I made a habit of asking the girl each time why they were providing sexual services for money and that was generally the reason given, more often than not financial reasons were given as the reason and occasionally love of sex, thrill of sleeping around but getting paid for it and so on
September 16, 200618 yr In the other thread you said lol.. we will not be getting married, we are together atm and are both very happy to be as such... however we are both aware that this isnt a 'forever' thing... i dont want any more kids... clare eventualy wants a husband and kids.. we know it is a relationship that isnt going to last forever... but what does? we are enjoying it for as long as we are happy together, knowing full well that within a few years it will end...hopefully with many happy memories.. Apologies if I have got it wrong and no offence intended if I did but isn't the above (the fact you aren't going to be together for good) an admission that you and Clare are together for the sex as opposed to love each other ? if so doesn't that contradict what you said above that sex should be able 2 people who are in love ? how do you conclude that? clare and i are together out of a strong mutual attraction, we are in love. sex is a consequence but is not the reason we are together.
September 16, 200618 yr how do you conclude that? clare and i are together out of a strong mutual attraction, we are in love. sex is a consequence but is not the reason we are together. The fact that you don't think you will be together long term, I assumed that if you like really loved each other you would make a point of being together till death us do part so when you admitted that both of you know it is not the case I kinda wondered if it was a fling as opposed to love :blush:
September 16, 200618 yr I typically requested 19-25 year olds (I was in my early 30's at the time) and I made a habit of asking the girl each time why they were providing sexual services for money and that was generally the reason given, more often than not financial reasons were given as the reason and occasionally love of sex, thrill of sleeping around but getting paid for it and so on that does not make it right!!!! <_< i have a daughter and would be gutted if she did this... therefore how can i be in favour of other peoples daughters doing it?... its wrong. plain and simple.
September 16, 200618 yr The fact that you don't think you will be together long term, I assumed that if you like really loved each other you would make a point of being together till death us do part so when you admitted that both of you know it is not the case I kinda wondered if it was a fling as opposed to love :blush: the age difference makes it impossible for us to be together forever, thats the only reason we are being realistic about our relationship.... its a problem that we both arnt happy with, but i cant get younger! we will enjoy it for as long as it lasts, which we believe will be for a long time yet!
September 16, 200618 yr that does not make it right!!!! <_< i have a daughter and would be gutted if she did this... therefore how can i be in favour of other peoples daughters doing it?... its wrong. plain and simple. Whether they should be doing it or not is not up to me, it is their perogative, they were all intelligent young women who made a conscientious choice to sell their body for money, no one held a gun to their heads they could all leave their "job" at any time of their choosing so I can't feel guilt about procuring services from them that they were all doing on their own free will If they were shipped in from abroad, kept in run down hostels, had their passports confiscated by pimps and threatened if they tried to quit I would feel guilty as hell but it was not like that
September 16, 200618 yr Whether they should be doing it or not is not up to me, it is their perogative, they were all intelligent young women who made a conscientious choice to sell their body for money, no one held a gun to their heads they could all leave their "job" at any time of their choosing so I can't feel guilt about procuring services from them that they were all doing on their own free will If they were shipped in from abroad, kept in run down hostels, had their passports confiscated by pimps and threatened if they tried to quit I would feel guilty as hell but it was not like that it IS up to you <_< <_< <_< without sad acts who cant do without then there would be no trade! sorry ozzy... im dead against it, im dead against men taking advantage of women, it is just simply wrong.
September 16, 200618 yr it IS up to you <_< <_< <_< without sad acts who cant do without then there would be no trade! sorry ozzy... im dead against it, im dead against men taking advantage of women, it is just simply wrong. They were around in the "job" long before I used them and were more than likely still in the job long after I stopped using them, I have not hired one for years but they went to the madam and asked if they could work for her, they volunteered so did it on their own free will just as they were free to leave at any time too, the fact that they registered voluntarily with the agency showed they WANTED to be prostitutes so they used me as much as I used them it was a 2 way street
September 16, 200618 yr putting your past aside ozzy... do you now think its right? i dont, under any circumstances. and now my girlfriend is home from work, im off :)
September 16, 200618 yr putting your past aside ozzy... do you now think its right? i dont, under any circumstances. and now my girlfriend is home from work, im off :) Would I do it again ? Nope not a chance Do I have any regrets about it ? Again no, I regret nothing in life clocks can't be turned back Would I hire one were I starting out and had never used one before ? No I do see where you are coming from trust me I understand your points but the industry exists and its said 500,000 guys a year in this country use one at least once so as that is the case I am pro regulation and licencing agencies for this service to help take the industry away from gangsters and russian mafia
September 16, 200618 yr Author I must admit I have to side with Rob on this issue, I am totally against prostitution in all forms. I know it goes on and it will be very difficult to stop it, as long as some people see it as a money maker then it will carry on. Craig, I see where you're coming from, at least you now admit you won't go there again. But as Rob says they are all someone's daughter,and I would be abhored if a daughter of mine ended up like that.
September 17, 200618 yr Ozzy how can you turn this on mine and Rob's relationship? If I was here for sex don't you think I would have chose someone a little closer to home? That fact is we are actually in love, as Rob said the big age gap makes it hard to be together forever (nothing lasts forever anyway)... I also agree with every word said by Rob on this one... That c**p about them doing it cos they like sex what bollocks, who do you want to believe that? They need the money for drugs/to feed the children/rent, prostitutes are not well off women, if they was they wouldn't lower themselves like that, you know it, I know it so who are you trying to convince? You shouldn't be proud about hiring prostitutes, if you really wanted sex so badly I'm sure you just would have went out and found a one night stand, as you said loads of people do that too. Although I'd never have a one night stand I'd much prefer that to paying someone, with god knows what disease (I'm not saying that a one night stand person doesnt have them either but you have more chance of catching them from a prostitute). Ozzy you're out numbered...
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