Some interesting polls tonight, but I'm not entirely confident in them translating into results come 8th June and I think Manchester has reset the election anyway.

 

But in which direction?

 

It seems likely that parties who are relatively relaxed on immigration will be affected, but otherwise I see no obvious reason why any party would gain or lose dramatically.

 

Westminster voting intention:

 

CON: 43% (-1)

LAB: 38% (+3)

LDEM: 10% (+1)

UKIP: 4% (+1)

 

(via @YouGov / 24 - 25 May)

 

So who suffered the minus 4 that the above changes net to?

So who suffered the minus 4 that the above changes net to?

Others, presumably.

Others, presumably.

 

So they are down to 5% then - that's not much for the Greens & nationalists + the rest...

Edited May 26, 20178 yr by vidcapper

So they are down to 5% then - that's not much for the Greens & nationalists + the rest...

You'd expect the SNP to be on about 3-4% given Scotland has 9% of the seats, so yes that does seem rather low. I don't think either main party thinks the gap is actually 5%.

But in which direction?

 

It seems likely that parties who are relatively relaxed on immigration will be affected, but otherwise I see no obvious reason why any party would gain or lose dramatically.

It's not the attack itself, it's rather that momentum was very much against the Tories before the attack, and a huge event takes the heat off them. Having said that, it also gets more people watching the news. They will be banking on a low turnout to get a landslide, and I think that low turnout will materialise.

2 million registered to vote before the deadline last weekend. That's also 2 polls in a row showing labour in the mid 30s!

:D

2 million registered to vote before the deadline last weekend. That's also 2 polls in a row showing labour in the mid 30s!

 

That matches the era their manifesto is from, then. :w00t:

Your desperation is delicious!

 

Actually, our manifesto is modern, popular and deals with REAL ISSUES, like uni fees and expensive trains and utilities. It is about investing for the future, not cutting back for um no reason and no gain.

 

Your low intelligence level brought us Brexit and May Bot, so I love seeing you bleat now that the Labour message is FINALLY getting through the media brainwashing.

Edited May 27, 20178 yr by Yeasty Clutch

Your desperation is delicious!

 

Actually, our manifesto is modern, popular and deals with REAL ISSUES, like uni fees and expensive trains and utilities. It is about investing for the future, not cutting back for um no reason and no gain.

 

Your low intellgence level brought us Brexit and May Bot, so ai love seeing you bleat now that the Labour message is FINALLY getting through the media brainwashing.

 

What you are not aware of is that I *was* a Labour party member in the mid-90's, when Labour was a moderate centre-left party. Unfortunately the party has forgotten that it was that centrist position that won them a landslide victory in 1997, and now they have reverted to the hard-left one that cost them 18 years in exile from 1979.

 

 

If our media was not so rabidly right wing, the prospect of a left wing government would not be so alien to this country!! Also, it is PRECISELY the left wing of the manifesto that has captured people's attention and made people ignore the negative ranblings of the desperate presses.

If our media was not so rabidly right wing, the prospect of a left wing government would not be so alien to this country!! Also, it is PRECISELY the left wing of the manifesto that has captured people's attention and made people ignore the negative ranblings of the desperate presses.

 

I can sum up the dangers in one word 'Venezuela'

I can counter with more RELEVANT example: Scandinavia.

I can counter with more RELEVANT example: Scandinavia.

 

To be pedantic, Scandinavia is a region, not a country - and curiously, a large part of it was sensible enough not to join the EU... ;)

 

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TMay's YouGov 17% "best PM" lead over Corbyn is smaller than the 21% Jim Callaghan had over Maggie Thatcher before her GE1979 triumph

To be pedantic, Scandinavia is a region, not a country - and curiously, a large part of it was sensible enough not to join the EU... ;)

 

I never said anything about a country ...

 

Also, Norway said the UK was in a dream world to think it was better off outside the EU without control.

Your desperation is delicious!

 

Actually, our manifesto is modern, popular and deals with REAL ISSUES, like uni fees and expensive trains and utilities. It is about investing for the future, not cutting back for um no reason and no gain.

 

Your low intellgence level brought us Brexit and May Bot, so ai love seeing you bleat now that the Labour message is FINALLY getting through the media brainwashing.

 

Agreed and the majority of his apponents in the PLP are still living in 1994!

What you are not aware of is that I *was* a Labour party member in the mid-90's, when Labour was a moderate centre-left party. Unfortunately the party has forgotten that it was that centrist position that won them a landslide victory in 1997, and now they have reverted to the hard-left one that cost them 18 years in exile from 1979.

 

But 1968-82 period was the changing of the doctrines and it just took labour a long time to learn to win from the centre but we are now in 2017 9 years after an era defining recession which means things have changed as Ed Milliband showed a triangulation policy only gets you 30% of the vote without a charismatic leader!

To be pedantic, Scandinavia is a region, not a country - and curiously, a large part of it was sensible enough not to join the EU... ;)

 

to all intents and purposes the whole of Scandinavia is in the EU, one way or another. Just like we were promised by the Brexiters that we would still be part of it, one way or another, to avoid losing our EU customers.

 

Short memories, Brexiters...

Westminster voting intention:

 

CON: 45% (-1)

LAB: 35% (+2)

LDEM: 7% (-1)

UKIP: 5% (-)

 

(via @OpiniumResearch / 23 - 25 May)

Westminster voting intention:

 

CON: 43% (-)

LAB: 36% (-2)

LDEM: 9% (-1)

UKIP: 4% (-)

 

(via @YouGov / 25 - 26 May)